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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: DeadHearts] 1
#11712662 - 12/24/09 03:19 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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No.
Considering the vastness of space, it's quite likely there is other life out there.
Likewise considering the vastness of space, we can be pretty certain that we'll never encounter it.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: DeadHearts]
#11713067 - 12/24/09 04:24 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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DeadHearts said: Also this topic is not about weather UFO's are real or not.
Isn't the issue of whether or not "UFOs are real" critical to answering the question of whether there will be a disclosure about them in the near future?
Also, it would be asinine to deny that they're real. The point is that they are unidentified. If you wanted us all to answer the question given the postulate that some of these unidentified objects are of extraterrestrial construction, you should have said so in the original post. That drastically changes the direction of discussion, don'tcha think?
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: deCypher]
#11713125 - 12/24/09 04:38 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Entropymancer said: Likewise considering the vastness of space, we can be pretty certain that we'll never encounter it.
you say this based on what? your earth physics?
BAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
This. Just because the Native Americans couldn't cross the Atlantic with their canoes doesn't mean that the Atlantic is uncrossable.
Even if we were to suppose that a technology could be created to exceed the speed of light making such travel feasible, how would they know to come here? Suppose that they're just around the corner in galactic terms, say 10000 light years away. It's still going to be several thousand years before they get an inkling that there's intelligent life here on earth, and that's if they're really quick on the uptake.
The only extraterrestrial visitor scenario that seems even vaguely plausible (and I use the term very very loosely) is if they possess technology to drastically exceed the speed of light, and they were the ones who deposited the building blocks of life here 4 billion years ago.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: DeadHearts]
#11713146 - 12/24/09 04:44 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Likewise brah
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: jimbotron]
#11714315 - 12/24/09 09:47 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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jimbotron said: All the radio waves ever generated by humans extend only 100 lightyears from Earth. That's nowhere near even the closest star. How would anyone know we're here?
Did somebody blow up Alpha Centauri? Last time I checked it was less than 5 light years away.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: DieCommie]
#11715434 - 12/25/09 02:36 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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DieCommie said: Also, remember that relativity doesnt just restrict matter to sub light speeds, it restricts any and all information to sub light speeds
What about tachyons?
Edit: nevermind, I see it's already been adressed
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: nice1]
#11716361 - 12/25/09 10:32 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Like I said, it would be asinine to claim that there are no such thing as unidentified flying objects. But the point is that they are unidentified.
Why 'unidentified' should be automatically equated with 'extraterrestrial' is completely beyond me.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: Shroomism]
#11716377 - 12/25/09 10:35 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: nice1]
#11716584 - 12/25/09 11:41 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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nice1 said: Its a reasonable assumption.
We could assume they are all hoaxed.
Truth is the UFO phenomena covers all of these things (hoaxes, misidenifications, man-made devices, craft of unknown origin etc) but if you study the phenomena then you are referring to the outstanding incidents, the ones that are certainly not hoaxes.
I'm not saying that they're all hoaxes. I'm talking about the same "outstanding incidents" you are. To me, it seems like an extremely irrational leap from unexplained to extraterrestrial.
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In the cases of these outstanding incidents it is reasonable to guess the craft to be ET because of the amount of people who have encountered their occupants.
...and yet somehow nearly every encounter fits the symptoms of sleep paralysis almost exactly. Between sleep paralysis and various not-uncommon drug experiences, I think it's safe to say that the human mind is wired to be prone to imagining exactly the type of entity that people describe.
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