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OfflinePsy Baba
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True origins of christmas.
    #11711953 - 12/24/09 03:08 PM (12 years, 30 days ago)

One interesting thing I ran in to....

"The fact that Santa's suit is red and white actually has a startlingly modern origin: Coca-cola commissioned an advertisement, with Santa wearing their colors, in 1931 to try to boost their child market. (It was illegal for them to show children actually drinking Coke in advertisements, since Coca-cola originally contained coca, but that's another story) In the 19th century, "Father Christmas" was usually considered to wear greenish "forest" colors. Red was increasingly a popular Santa color in the early 20th century, but red and white together was due to Coca-cola's advertisements."

I have checked this in multiple sources.


And then you have the theory of Amanita Muscaria being a lot of the origin of x-mas, but I could go into books about that.

Any interesting finds you have made?


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Re: True origins of christmas. [Re: Psy Baba]
    #11711970 - 12/24/09 03:11 PM (12 years, 30 days ago)

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No one knows what day Jesus Christ was born on. From the biblical description, most historians believe that his birth probably occurred in September, approximately six months after Passover. One thing they agree on is that it is very unlikely that Jesus was born in December, since the bible records shepherds tending their sheep in the fields on that night. This is quite unlikely to have happened during a cold Judean winter. So why do we celebrate Christ’s birthday as Christmas, on December the 25th?


The answer lies in the pagan origins of Christmas. In ancient Babylon, the feast of the Son of Isis (Goddess of Nature) was celebrated on December 25. Raucous partying, gluttonous eating and drinking, and gift-giving were traditions of this feast.


In Rome, the Winter Solstice was celebrated many years before the birth of Christ. The Romans called their winter holiday Saturnalia, honoring Saturn, the God of Agriculture. In January, they observed the Kalends of January, which represented the triumph of life over death. This whole season was called Dies Natalis Invicti Solis, the Birthday of the Unconquered Sun. The festival season was marked by much merrymaking. It is in ancient Rome that the tradition of the Mummers was born. The Mummers were groups of costumed singers and dancers who traveled from house to house entertaining their neighbors. From this, the Christmas tradition of caroling was born.

In northern Europe, many other traditions that we now consider part of Christian worship were begun long before the participants had ever heard of Christ. The pagans of northern Europe celebrated the their own winter solstice, known as Yule. Yule was symbolic of the pagan Sun God, Mithras, being born, and was observed on the shortest day of the year. As the Sun God grew and matured, the days became longer and warmer. It was customary to light a candle to encourage Mithras, and the sun, to reappear next year.


Huge Yule logs were burned in honor of the sun. The word Yule itself means “wheel,” the wheel being a pagan symbol for the sun. Mistletoe was considered a sacred plant, and the custom of kissing under the mistletoe began as a fertility ritual. Hollyberries were thought to be a food of the gods.


The tree is the one symbol that unites almost all the northern European winter solstices. Live evergreen trees were often brought into homes during the harsh winters as a reminder to inhabitants that soon their crops would grow again. Evergreen boughs were sometimes carried as totems of good luck and were often present at weddings, representing fertility. The Druids used the tree as a religious symbol, holding their sacred ceremonies while surrounding and worshipping huge trees.


In 350, Pope Julius I declared that Christ’s birth would be celebrated on December 25. There is little doubt that he was trying to make it as painless as possible for pagan Romans (who remained a majority at that time) to convert to Christianity. The new religion went down a bit easier, knowing that their feasts would not be taken away from them.


Christmas (Christ-Mass) as we know it today, most historians agree, began in Germany, though Catholics and Lutherans still disagree about which church celebrated it first. The earliest record of an evergreen being decorated in a Christian
celebration was in 1521 in the Alsace region of Germany. A prominent Lutheran minister of the day cried blasphemy: “Better that they should look to the true tree of life, Christ.”


The controversy continues even today in some fundamentalist sects.




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Re: True origins of christmas. [Re: Psy Baba]
    #11711971 - 12/24/09 03:11 PM (12 years, 30 days ago)



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Re: True origins of christmas. [Re: Psy Baba]
    #11711975 - 12/24/09 03:12 PM (12 years, 30 days ago)

Besides the theories you suggest (Catholicism/Christianity = Mushroom Cult, which I inherently believe) to add to your "Coca-Cola Theory;"

I've surmised that Christmas, in the way it's practiced today, is the greatest global scam to put the public in debt.


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Re: True origins of christmas. [Re: Envix]
    #11711997 - 12/24/09 03:16 PM (12 years, 30 days ago)

:lol:


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Re: True origins of christmas. [Re: Psy Baba]
    #11712056 - 12/24/09 03:28 PM (12 years, 30 days ago)

Santa wears red and white b/c those are his favorite colors, it has nothing to do with mushrooms or coca cola.

Christmas is celebrated on Dec 25th b/c that's the day that Jesus was born. Pagans didn't have holidays, they worshiped idols and were stupid, ignorant people who lived in caves.

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Re: True origins of christmas. [Re: uber_aj]
    #11712072 - 12/24/09 03:31 PM (12 years, 30 days ago)

you's trollin.


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Re: True origins of christmas. [Re: Envix]
    #11712097 - 12/24/09 03:36 PM (12 years, 30 days ago)

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Envix said:





That was pretty close to being spot on.

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DuNeRaVeR said:
you's trollin.




I wouldn't even say he's trolling, just being a public ignoramus


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Re: True origins of christmas. [Re: BiG_StroOnZ]
    #11712113 - 12/24/09 03:40 PM (12 years, 30 days ago)

that is quite possible as well......I do not know the user.


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