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OfflineShroom_dancer
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Bunch of DMT Related Questions
    #11706058 - 12/23/09 01:09 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Answer these questions about DMT fumarate and normal n-n-dmt from stb tek.

1. Can someone use DMT fumarate/regular dmt crystal (Straight from a stb tek, not fumarate) in a glass of water or something like that, and add an maoi and be able to have an "ayahuasca experience?"

2. I heard fumarate requires more to smoke than its counterpart, how much more would be required?

3. Is injecting it hard? I would love to try that

4. Is it possible to snort? I heard it's ONLY possible to snort it while it's in salt (fumarate) form, and even then it's really difficult. Why would you not need an MAOI when you snort it in freebase form, though? Can I snort the normal yellow crystal my friend has?

5. I know fumarate makes it last longer, but how much longer? Usually the STB tek yielding DMT Only lasts about a year, how much longer will it last in fumarate form?

6. Is it easier to smoke as fumarate or yellow/white crystal? Or is it equally difficult?

Thanks

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Re: Bunch of DMT Related Questions [Re: Shroom_dancer]
    #11706298 - 12/23/09 01:47 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

smoking the fumarate salt would be pointless.
the whole idea of converting the free base (which has a lower boiling point, suitable for vaporizing)
to the fumarate salt is to make it more stable for storage, and render it water-soluble for oral administration.
one could IV it if one wished, but it's probably just as easy to swallow it with an MAOI.  One could probably insufflate it as well,
but that would probably burn like a bitch.

oh yeah...and fumarate only lasts longer when take with an MAOI.


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Re: Bunch of DMT Related Questions [Re: piracetam]
    #11706312 - 12/23/09 01:49 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Oh, so it can't be smoked?

I just remember someone saying you CAN smoke it, you just need a few mg more than you did before.

How would snorting it work without an MAOI, though? I've been hearing that wherever I read about it, that snorting the salt burns like hell, but DOES work.

And eating it with an maoi... What is a good dose?

Can I use the non-fumarate crystals for oral ingestion?


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Re: Bunch of DMT Related Questions [Re: Shroom_dancer]
    #11707335 - 12/23/09 04:45 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

you'll need a higher dosage, and higher temp; after all, it's an ionic salt... but why would you go through the trouble of converting the easily vaporizable free base to a fumarate salt? set some free base aside for vaping, and convert the rest you want to stash.
don't smoke it, that's a waste. flame destroys the compound.

couldn't tell you about insufflating, idk.

80mg dmt fumarate + 80mg maoi is an effective dose

non-fumarate crystals? as in free base crystals? just vape them.
you could eat them, but you'd need an MAOI.


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