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Re: Theory on Psychedelics - Access to the Unconscious [Re: the bizzle]
    #11698874 - 12/22/09 01:06 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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the bizzle said:
you say that it comes from within vs. without...

that is where I believe you are wrong

the plant is without, the person puts it in their body to make something happen. But the plant was already there, already waiting to make that effect happen. There is no difference.

Inside and outside ---there is no difference. The psychedelic experience IS everythang that is

The universe is swallowing itself to happen, and it is happening -- that is the psychedelic experience. Everything else is details, subject to WAY too much overembellishment and misinterpretation.

Just be alive enough to create :awetrippie::feelsgoodman::aweoverdose:


Is it from within or without? Or are they both already one and the same? How could it really be any other way? Whatever jigsaw combination of molecules and madness and dimensions like time it took to make something happen, but it's all part of the same one existence


"Let us not pretend, that it could have been, any other way"


doin' thangs will always have already been doin' thangs



to break it down is to be choppin down doin' thangs





yeah

it's like

black is white and white is black, doin thangs, they are both abstract and doin' thangs


one is the absence of color, one is all colors mixed together

life and death

first and last breath

breathing is doin' thangs*

breathing in is doing in thangs

breathing out is doing out thangs

breathing in between is just breathing which is doin' thangs.*


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Re: Theory on Psychedelics - Access to the Unconscious [Re: the bizzle]
    #11698903 - 12/22/09 01:10 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)



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Re: Theory on Psychedelics - Access to the Unconscious [Re: skatealex2]
    #11699778 - 12/22/09 03:04 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

a agree; within, without- there is no difference.

thanks for the leary interview.


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Re: Theory on Psychedelics - Access to the Unconscious [Re: dummy]
    #11704845 - 12/23/09 08:56 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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The universe is swallowing itself to happen, and it is happening




:eek: oh shit.


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Re: Theory on Psychedelics - Access to the Unconscious [Re: solstice]
    #11705342 - 12/23/09 10:43 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)



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Re: Theory on Psychedelics - Access to the Unconscious [Re: solstice]
    #11705613 - 12/23/09 11:47 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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solstice said:
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The universe is swallowing itself to happen, and it is happening




:eek: oh shit.















Everybody burn with the turning of the Earth
every question aint got an answer...

tonight, climbing the stars
into the midnight hour

the serpent is eating itself

the wilderness and all it's storms,
tangled up around my horns
I aint got time to die...


my heart is on fire,
with it's death and desire
i aint got time to die...

tonight, climbing the stars, in to the midnight hour
the serpent is eating itself





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Re: Theory on Psychedelics - Access to the Unconscious [Re: the bizzle]
    #11705670 - 12/23/09 11:58 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

oh and of course this



"We were talking about the space between us all..."

heh


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Re: Theory on Psychedelics - Access to the Unconscious [Re: the bizzle]
    #11706237 - 12/23/09 01:37 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

I wholeheartedly agree with this:

"When a person takes a psychedelic drug, they are stirring the pool of personal and inherited experience and bringing into consciousness feelings, thoughts and insights usually held in the unconscious mind."

and this:

Inside and outside ---there is no difference.


From my personal experience, the psychedelic venture is intricately
tied to the conscious evolution of humans on this planet (and possibly has been for some time), and is aiding us in becoming whatever it is we are becoming. We are at the stage where we are learning to manifest reality in its most basic form...by thinking, manipulating our environment, and creating objects. Once we have become fully aware that there is no objective "out there" and understand the responsibilities inherent to our situation as beings in this 3d/time space, we will evolve to beings that can manifest reality more quickly/ directly. This may involve some sort of jump to a congruent reality of the imagination, or may occur in this reality, i've no idea. But i have noticed that entheogens seems to exacerbate this process by paying very close attention to synchronicities in my life. In the past i've freaked myself out on certain substances while researching things, only later to find they were "true." This is a small, isolated, and poor example, but once you understand the paradoxically subjective and collective nature of experience, you see that beliefs, and the emotions propelling them, are directly tied to the ability to manifest certain ideas, things, etc. Manifest is probably not as appropriate a term as attracting certain events/objects from the pool of collective possibilities. This means each individuals life, whether they know it or not, is wholly a creative enterprise. I don't feel ive done a good job of explaining, but i just wrote another long post and i'm spent. maybe more later. I like this thread though.


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"The path of experience is nowhere settled."


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