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Re: Telling a doctor you took shrooms and urine sample question, should I worry? [Re: nukunuku]
    #10288855 - 05/05/09 07:28 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

When I had my kid-he was 3 mos premature, both of us almost died-they asked me about drug use. I told them I smoked some pot in high School. Guess what-in his medical records, which have now been recorded over and over again by every agency that has worked with him and his disability, it says "mother admits to illicit use of marijuana." it is phrased in such a way that it sounds like I was high when I was pregnant. Which I made very, very clear at the time was NOT AT ALL true.

It appears to the casual observer that I had a premature baby because I smoked pot-years before, but it doesn't say that.

Now I lie.


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Re: Telling a doctor you took shrooms and urine sample question, should I worry? [Re: Melusina]
    #10288894 - 05/05/09 07:44 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Sigh, the more I'm learning about this the sadder I get. I'll have to be more careful with what I say to officials from now on.

ps. I love the quote you have for your sig!


Edited by nukunuku (05/05/09 07:46 AM)


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Re: Telling a doctor you took shrooms and urine sample question, should I worry? [Re: nukunuku]
    #10288927 - 05/05/09 07:55 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Well you don't have to lie you just have to learn how to word things better. Instead of affirming you had used marijuana you could have said "I did not use marijuana or any drug during my pregnancy." Now you didn't lie if that was true. You have to be specific about what you say to people because people hear what they want to hear.


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Re: Telling a doctor you took shrooms and urine sample question, should I worry? [Re: kingjames488]
    #10288946 - 05/05/09 08:03 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

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kingjames488 said:
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hellraizor83 said:
Actually the government cant look at your medical records without you signing a release form.  I know this for a fact.  Not going to get into how i know this but I do.  If you apply for a government job, you have to tell them if you've had medical issues and where you were treated for said issues, then you have to sign a release and then they can pull your medical documents from there




well maybe i know they can for a fact O.o
lol

think they tell you everything they do?




It's a law called HIPAA. Nobody can look at your records without your say-so.

Of course, you have to give your insurance company permission. Other than that, you're pretty much safe unless you want to work for Area 51 or something.


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Re: Telling a doctor you took shrooms and urine sample question, should I worry? [Re: Quetzalcohuatl]
    #10288980 - 05/05/09 08:11 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

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Quetzalcohuatl said:
Well you don't have to lie you just have to learn how to word things better. Instead of affirming you had used marijuana you could have said "I did not use marijuana or any drug during my pregnancy." Now you didn't lie if that was true. You have to be specific about what you say to people because people hear what they want to hear.




Wait, is this message for me or Melusina?

If it was for me then yeah, that was what I meant, being more careful with my words and wording them better. So things won't come back and bite me later.

I should of worded my previous post more specifically :p


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Re: Telling a doctor you took shrooms and urine sample question, should I worry? [Re: Doc_T]
    #10289714 - 05/05/09 11:15 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

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Doc_T said:
It's a law called HIPAA. Nobody can look at your records without your say-so.

Of course, you have to give your insurance company permission. Other than that, you're pretty much safe unless you want to work for Area 51 or something.





It also applies to vast majority of employment situations because it prevents discrimination.

You can't be refused a job because you have HIV or ever tested positive for STD's and what not.  There may be rare exceptions.


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Re: Telling a doctor you took shrooms and urine sample question, should I worry? [Re: badchad]
    #10289720 - 05/05/09 11:16 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

*extremely* rare.
And even then, you still must explicitly give permission. Somebody wants to see your health records for a job, just get a different job.


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Re: Telling a doctor you took shrooms and urine sample question, should I worry? [Re: nukunuku]
    #10290211 - 05/05/09 12:51 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

This will not follow you.

You were not charged with a crime, right?


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Re: Telling a doctor you took shrooms and urine sample question, should I worry? [Re: nukunuku]
    #10292185 - 05/05/09 06:12 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

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badchad said:
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Doc_T said:
It's a law called HIPAA. Nobody can look at your records without your say-so.

Of course, you have to give your insurance company permission. Other than that, you're pretty much safe unless you want to work for Area 51 or something.







It also applies to vast majority of employment situations because it prevents discrimination.

You can't be refused a job because you have HIV or ever tested positive for STD's and what not.  There may be rare exceptions.




Yeah, I'm in a way different situation than OP. When you have a disabled kid, you have to provide proof of disability, from the beginning, if you want any assistance. This includes the paperwork from the premature birth that caused it. You're right-different situation.


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Well you don't have to lie you just have to learn how to word things better. Instead of affirming you had used marijuana you could have said "I did not use marijuana or any drug during my pregnancy." Now you didn't lie if that was true. You have to be specific about what you say to people because people hear what they want to hear.




Yeah. I'll remember that next time I'm in labor!! Seriously, though, I really have learned a lot since then. I was still pretty much a kid before I was a parent. A naive idiot.

Medical records can also be suppenoed by OCS, or any other government organization, especially if it's for "the safety of a child."

So I lie.


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Re: Telling a doctor you took shrooms and urine sample question, should I worry? [Re: Melusina]
    #10292629 - 05/05/09 07:16 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

last year 1 of the news stations did a report on a dude who was on the list waiting for a new organ. he admitted to using marijuana for pain and nausea. they denied him his organ and he is now dead.

be safe, no 1 needs to know.


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Re: Telling a doctor you took shrooms and urine sample question, should I worry? [Re: Swyfty Swyf]
    #10293717 - 05/05/09 09:56 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah I wasn't charged with a crime. From the responses in this thread, my main worry if me admitted I used shrooms will cause me to be denied of stuff later, like some of the examples people gave.

I've come to the conclusion that my situation is probably okay and not worrysome. I'll just keep in mind to be careful what/how I tell people from now on.


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Re: Telling a doctor you took shrooms and urine sample question, should I worry? [Re: badchad]
    #11697674 - 12/22/09 09:03 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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You can't be refused a job because you have HIV or ever tested positive for STD's and what not.  There may be rare exceptions.




Yeah like porn star.


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Re: Telling a doctor you took shrooms and urine sample question, should I worry? [Re: SavageShroom]
    #11697747 - 12/22/09 09:25 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Standard Urinalysis??

Does NOT including any drug testing mate.  You are fine.  They must specifically ask you consent to a drug test.


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Re: Telling a doctor you took shrooms and urine sample question, should I worry? [Re: kikthecan]
    #11697777 - 12/22/09 09:31 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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kikthecan said:
they probably just took your pee to make sure you're ok and it wasn't laced with anything harmful



This

Doctors aren't stupid. Most doctors have used their fair share of drugs.

My doctor knows my entire drug history, and I have never had any problems associated with having told him.


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Re: Telling a doctor you took shrooms and urine sample question, should I worry? [Re: nukunuku]
    #11697821 - 12/22/09 09:45 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Being honest with your doctor is the most important thing.  Patient confidientiallity is a BIG thing in the health industry.  There's even an act for it: HIPPA.

I wouldn't worry about it.  You didn't tell anybody but your doctor what was up, so you did good there.

What I would worry about is getting a sitter for your next trip.


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Re: Telling a doctor you took shrooms and urine sample question, should I worry? [Re: nukunuku]
    #11698692 - 12/22/09 12:37 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

You should never admit to ANYTHING FOR ANY REASON, PERIOD.

You should have just told the doctor, "I'm not sure what it was. I just felt faint and couldn't move. I'll have to see my family doctor about it." and then leave it at that.

It's not like the doctor would have been able to do anything for you knowing that you had taken shrooms. Just keep your mouth SHUT when it come to doctors or the police. They can NOT be trusted.



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Re: Telling a doctor you took shrooms and urine sample question, should I worry? [Re: youbreakyoubuy]
    #11698740 - 12/22/09 12:46 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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youbreakyoubuy said:
Being honest with your doctor is the most important thing.  Patient confidientiallity is a BIG thing in the health industry.  There's even an act for it: HIPPA.

I wouldn't worry about it.  You didn't tell anybody but your doctor what was up, so you did good there.



Bullshit.

If the cops ask the doctor what you were on, your confidentiality goes right out the window. Flat out NEVER admit to anything. Telling that doctor what he was on was completely useless, there was nothing the doctor could have possibly done to help him knowing that he was on shrooms. The ONLY thing it did was open him up to questioning by the cops.


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Re: Telling a doctor you took shrooms and urine sample question, should I worry? [Re: sansa]
    #11705079 - 12/23/09 09:46 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Look, man.  It's either your safety or your confidentiality.  You choose.

I've met a lot of doctors in my day, and none of them seemed like the type to breach the trust they have with their patients.

Going over this link, I still stand by my earlier post.


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