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Re: Crazy unknown mutated shrooms please help identify [Re: zebow]
#11705846 - 12/23/09 12:32 PM (15 years, 28 days ago) |
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look at it this way, now you dont need to go grocery shopping for awhile 
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Re: Crazy unknown mutated shrooms please help identify [Re: rsinatra13]
#11705887 - 12/23/09 12:38 PM (15 years, 28 days ago) |
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you said in your first post they were B+ and Z now you say B+ and amazon what are they
and where did you get them from?
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not sure what GE and FAE are but i should probably get some.
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Re: Crazy unknown mutated shrooms please help identify [Re: zebow]
#11705890 - 12/23/09 12:38 PM (15 years, 28 days ago) |
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zebow said: can oysters come from a mix of b+ and amazonian spores? these were 8 months old syringes which i used before to make many successful boxes of cubes...
Nope.
It appears you got the syringes mixed up. It happens. RR
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Re: Crazy unknown mutated shrooms please help identify [Re: RogerRabbit]
#11705912 - 12/23/09 12:45 PM (15 years, 28 days ago) |
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ive been growin cubes for years now...
i will have to go double check on the labels but its for sure a mix of two cubes, as i havent ever purchased spores of anything else
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Re: Crazy unknown mutated shrooms please help identify [Re: zebow]
#11706178 - 12/23/09 01:27 PM (15 years, 28 days ago) |
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WHERE did you get them? Spores101? This would be the 2nd time i heard of that they sent oysters as cubes.
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Re: Crazy unknown mutated shrooms please help identify [Re: zebow]
#11706315 - 12/23/09 01:49 PM (15 years, 28 days ago) |
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zebow said: can oysters come from a mix of b+ and amazonian spores? these were 8 months old syringes which i used before to make many successful boxes of cubes...
can a zebra come from a irish man and an american woman?
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Re: Crazy unknown mutated shrooms please help identify [Re: Citizen13]
#11706335 - 12/23/09 01:51 PM (15 years, 28 days ago) |
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if snuggies are involved...yes
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CapZilla said:
not sure what GE and FAE are but i should probably get some.
Citric said:
Your signature is wrong on colonization temps!
GOOD JUDGMENT COMES FROM EXPERIENCE
EXPERIENCE COMES FROM BAD JUDGMENT
ROOM TEMP 70-75 IS BEST FOR COLONIZATION
Thank you mycochef
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Re: Crazy unknown mutated shrooms please help identify [Re: noobieshroomie]
#11706425 - 12/23/09 02:12 PM (15 years, 28 days ago) |
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Why were you mixing the two strains?
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Re: Crazy unknown mutated shrooms please help identify [Re: Fahkface]
#11706627 - 12/23/09 02:51 PM (15 years, 28 days ago) |
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yeah wait a minute what happens when you use 2 strains same sp in one ms syringe?
i mean obviously you don't get oysters but what does happen?
Edited by weiliiinmyyard (12/23/09 02:51 PM)
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Re: Crazy unknown mutated shrooms please help identify [Re: Wimy]
#11706721 - 12/23/09 03:03 PM (15 years, 28 days ago) |
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i was thinking the same way, is that a simple way to make a hybred if your luckey enough for eveything to work?
or what if you mixed pe and b+? super potent quick and large growing mushrooms? has anyone every tried anything like this? this is what i wanted to do when i first started, but obviously thats not a beginner job.
would it be better to mix the spore or thy myc? this is so fascinating, hope its not just oysters... try some or get somebody to try some of them if your nervous. hell let me try them
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Edited by trashcan (12/23/09 03:06 PM)
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Re: Crazy unknown mutated shrooms please help identify [Re: trashcan]
#11706734 - 12/23/09 03:06 PM (15 years, 28 days ago) |
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i was just kinda hoping you can get both fruits off of one bulk. you know nigtflyer put those cyanescens and cyanofriscosa right next to eachother
and in the wild psilocybe species seem to be close to one another, like some areas just support psilocybes or they co-exist for a reason i'm not sure
another pair that involves an inactive sp is weilii and lacrymaria velutina. i have picked a weilii out of the middle of a cluster of lacrymaria velutina before. and they ALWAYS share the same grass patches
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Re: Crazy unknown mutated shrooms please help identify [Re: Wimy]
#11706882 - 12/23/09 03:33 PM (15 years, 28 days ago) |
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Maybe some mushroom species are in symbiotic relationships, that we don't know about yet.
Since different Cube strains are still the same species, there's little to expect! When you mix PE spores with B+ spores a Cube is what you get. Different strains sometimes tend to develop certain characteristics. Now, this doesn't mean that they ain't able to produce fruits that look like complete regular Cube fruits.
So what happens when you mix the two genetic pools of B+ and PE is, that you create a new strain. The exact same way you create a new strain (phenotype) every time you grow mushrooms from multispore inoculations.
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Re: Crazy unknown mutated shrooms please help identify [Re: Wimy]
#11707055 - 12/23/09 03:58 PM (15 years, 28 days ago) |
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choke down a handfull! Then you'll know
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Re: Crazy unknown mutated shrooms please help identify [Re: Wimy]
#11707080 - 12/23/09 04:02 PM (15 years, 28 days ago) |
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trashcan said: i was thinking the same way, is that a simple way to make a hybred if your luckey enough for eveything to work?
or what if you mixed pe and b+? super potent quick and large growing mushrooms? has anyone every tried anything like this? this is what i wanted to do when i first started, but obviously thats not a beginner job.
would it be better to mix the spore or thy myc? this is so fascinating, hope its not just oysters... try some or get somebody to try some of them if your nervous. hell let me try them
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weiliiinmyyard said: yeah wait a minute what happens when you use 2 strains same sp in one ms syringe?
i mean obviously you don't get oysters but what does happen?
nothing. they are like roommates, 2 different strains grow in the same spawn/substrate with seperate mycellial structures.
no hybrid, no "mix" nadda. chances are you won't even notice the difference, although sometimes you can and it makes for an interesting photo opportunity.
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Edited by Citizen13 (12/23/09 04:07 PM)
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Re: Crazy unknown mutated shrooms please help identify [Re: Citizen13]
#11707120 - 12/23/09 04:08 PM (15 years, 28 days ago) |
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I thought that was common knowlage...
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Re: Crazy unknown mutated shrooms please help identify [Re: Beelzebozo]
#11707137 - 12/23/09 04:10 PM (15 years, 28 days ago) |
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Beelzebozo said: I thought that was common knowlage...
i'm sure 99.99% of the world doesnt know this. so i wouldn't call it "common knowledge"
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Re: Crazy unknown mutated shrooms please help identify [Re: Citizen13]
#11707139 - 12/23/09 04:11 PM (15 years, 28 days ago) |
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Citizen13 said:
nothing. they are like roommates, 2 different strains grow in the same spawn/substrate with seperate mycellial structures.
no hybrid, no "mix" nadda. chances are you won't even notice the difference, although sometimes you can and it makes for an interesting photo opportunity.
Not true. This is from Cervantes' strain thread.
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The fungus known as Psilocibe Cubensis is a unique mushroom SPECIES. Shiitake is a unique mushroom species. Azures are their own species. Amanitas are a species... etc. It would be almost impossible and incredibly expensive to use two different fungus species and create a hybrid of the two. It'd be like successfully mating a human with a gorilla. However, a Caucasian human can effectively mate with an Asian human. Similarly, spores from one cube race can mate (or be mated) successfully with the spores of other cubensis races.
In the world of mycology, every single time a single spore's mycelium mates with another's to become dikaryotic, a unique Strain (no quotation marks) is created. Like baby humans, living cube Strains are each unique, and they tend to resemble their 'parents'. Each single viable spore print can produce thousands if not millions of unique strains. Most of these strains will produce mushrooms that look remarkably like the mushroom that produced the print from which they came.
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Re: Crazy unknown mutated shrooms please help identify [Re: Citizen13]
#11707161 - 12/23/09 04:15 PM (15 years, 28 days ago) |
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most of the time this is what will happen
(borrowed the pic from RR since i have no petris that i did this with to use as an example)

nothing.
sometimes the myc will fuse and you will get slight variations, sometimes not visible, sometimes they will be, but until you clone it out (assuming it will even fruit), it's hardly a new "strain" or a "hybrid" then the average MS inoculation. (although by definition it is)
injecting PE and GT into a jar, assuming the 1 percent chance that they even fuse happens, will not give you a hybrid PE stem with huge GT caps.
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Re: Crazy unknown mutated shrooms please help identify [Re: Citizen13]
#11707279 - 12/23/09 04:35 PM (15 years, 28 days ago) |
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Citizen13 said: most of the time this is what will happen
(borrowed the pic from RR since i have no petris that i did this with to use as an example)

nothing.
sometimes the myc will fuse and you will get slight variations, sometimes not visible, sometimes they will be, but until you clone it out (assuming it will even fruit), it's hardly a new "strain" or a "hybrid" then the average MS inoculation. (although by definition it is)
injecting PE and GT into a jar, assuming the 1 percent chance that they even fuse happens, will not give you a hybrid PE stem with huge GT caps.
so you can try anything you want but only some will work? and agar will let you know.
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Re: Crazy unknown mutated shrooms please help identify [Re: Citizen13]
#11707287 - 12/23/09 04:37 PM (15 years, 28 days ago) |
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Citizen13 said:
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trashcan said: i was thinking the same way, is that a simple way to make a hybred if your luckey enough for eveything to work?
or what if you mixed pe and b+? super potent quick and large growing mushrooms? has anyone every tried anything like this? this is what i wanted to do when i first started, but obviously thats not a beginner job.
would it be better to mix the spore or thy myc? this is so fascinating, hope its not just oysters... try some or get somebody to try some of them if your nervous. hell let me try them
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weiliiinmyyard said: yeah wait a minute what happens when you use 2 strains same sp in one ms syringe?
i mean obviously you don't get oysters but what does happen?
nothing. they are like roommates, 2 different strains grow in the same spawn/substrate with seperate mycellial structures.
no hybrid, no "mix" nadda. chances are you won't even notice the difference, although sometimes you can and it makes for an interesting photo opportunity.
dude thats what i wanted to hear
soo go albino and a nice coffee colored cap like louise anna for just one syringe. why the hell not? im gonna do that. and take pictures
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