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How does one break apart a song into separate channels?
    #11701597 - 12/22/09 08:57 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Like if I wanted to take a song and separate each instrument.  Why?  I want to make some  a capella stuff like this:

http://www.break.com/game-trailers/game/sonic-and-the-black-knight/sonic-the-hedgehog-2---boss-battle-song-acapella.html

I just need them separate so I can analyze then mimic each instrument.  I shouldn't have a problem putting it together, that's gonna be the fun part.


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Re: How does one break apart a song into separate sounds? [Re: Newbie]
    #11701636 - 12/22/09 09:01 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

I want to know how to do this, too.


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Re: How does one break apart a song into separate sounds? [Re: Poid]
    #11701648 - 12/22/09 09:02 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Too bad.  I'm doing it first.  :tongue2:


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Re: How does one break apart a song into separate sounds? [Re: Newbie]
    #11701665 - 12/22/09 09:04 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

:supercrankey:


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Re: How does one break apart a song into separate sounds? [Re: Newbie]
    #11701678 - 12/22/09 09:05 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Do you have any music editing programs like Audacity?


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Re: How does one break apart a song into separate sounds? [Re: Poid]
    #11701685 - 12/22/09 09:06 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

I know the answer but it's a secret.
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Re: How does one break apart a song into separate sounds? [Re: AlmostAsCoolAs]
    #11701687 - 12/22/09 09:06 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

I can.  :hehehe:


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Re: How does one break apart a song into separate sounds? [Re: Newbie]
    #11701697 - 12/22/09 09:06 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

I'm assuming I need the song in a certain format like MIDI that's easy to break apart.  I just don't know the motions..


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Re: How does one break apart a song into separate sounds? [Re: AlmostAsCoolAs]
    #11701717 - 12/22/09 09:08 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

I have Audacity, but haven't fooled with it much.  You can do that with that program?











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Re: How does one break apart a song into separate sounds? [Re: Learyfan]
    #11701750 - 12/22/09 09:11 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Well, I remember trying to do what OP wants to do about a year ago and I could successfully separate the vocals from the instrumentals and a little more but I haven't done any of that since then.

There are tutorials that will show you how to do this with different programs I'm just too lazy to look lol.


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Re: How does one break apart a song into separate sounds? [Re: AlmostAsCoolAs]
    #11701873 - 12/22/09 09:30 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

if you're talking about video game type music I'm pretty positive you could find midi versions no problem, then youd just need a program that works with midi. Are you running any software?


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Re: How does one break apart a song into separate sounds? [Re: x2and2makes5]
    #11702085 - 12/22/09 10:00 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Not currently but I'll take suggestions..  Audacity's been said already, I'll probably go there.  I don't need one with too many features (like Acid Pro), I'd mainly need it just for this.


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Re: How does one break apart a song into separate sounds? [Re: Newbie]
    #11702315 - 12/22/09 10:31 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

I've been googling this for the last half hour and haven't found shit.  :crankey:  It seems like the channel separation is called something different in each program, and the info is very vague.


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Re: How does one break apart a song into separate sounds? [Re: Newbie]
    #11708896 - 12/23/09 11:43 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

bump, still need help.  :frown:


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Re: How does one break apart a song into separate sounds? [Re: Newbie]
    #11708957 - 12/23/09 11:53 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Are you sure it's possible to even do that?


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Re: How does one break apart a song into separate sounds? [Re: blewmeanie]
    #11708974 - 12/23/09 11:55 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

One does not simply break apart a song into separate channels


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Re: How does one break apart a song into separate sounds? [Re: pmb]
    #11709018 - 12/24/09 12:01 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

blewmeanie said:
Are you sure it's possible to even do that?


I don't think he's sure, and I think that may be why he made this thread! :tongue2:



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One does not simply break apart a song into separate channels


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Re: How does one break apart a song into separate channels? [Re: Newbie]
    #11709038 - 12/24/09 12:03 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Demixing is in general a very hard problem. Here are your basic options:

1) Most common is the "karaoke trick": since vocals are often (but not always) panned center, you can flip the phase of one channel and vocals will cancel, leaving just the instrumental tracks. Here's how to do this in Audacity: split the stereo track (use the black triangle to the right of the track name); then select one track (doesn't matter which), and choose Effects > Invert.

2) Find the source tracks somewhere on the Internet. These are often released for DJs so they can remix individual parts.

3) Find a MIDI version. MIDI is essentially a musical score that can be played by a computer, so someone had to transcribe the song to make it.

4) Transcribe it yourself.

5) Use EQ to try to isolate various instruments; this takes experience and trial-and-error, and still won't be perfect.

There really is no magic way to do this (the karaoke trick comes closest). Just FYI, taking a song and "magically" splitting it is called Blind Source Separation (BSS), a bunch of academics are working on it but it's not widely used at the moment.


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Re: How does one break apart a song into separate channels? [Re: FollowTheMusic]
    #11709389 - 12/24/09 01:12 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Gotcha.  It sounds like I may just need to listen to the track about 50 times or so with a keen ear to pull it off.  :wink:


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Re: How does one break apart a song into separate channels? [Re: Newbie]
    #11709452 - 12/24/09 01:29 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah, pretty much.  You could use a paragraphic eq to carve out certain frequencies you're trying to hear.  For instance when you want to pick out the bass part boost the low range and drop the treble and mid range frequencies all the way down.


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