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Invisibletugwax
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How do you conceal your grow?
    #11699476 - 12/22/09 02:29 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

In an ideal world your jars would be colonizing on a shelf over your fridge and your mushrooms would be proudly fruiting for all to see in your hallway.

Obviously this would be fine if you lived in a tolerant society where growing magic mushrooms doesn't get you stigmatized, unemployable, divorced or put in prison to get your ass raped for several years.

I've got my "evil" mycology in a locked cupboard in an unused room (well the room is used for junk mostly).

Since I have a flowhood that won't fit in the cupboard and people know I like techie things, I don't bother hiding that, I just have a stack of dead hard drives next to it on a shelf. I just say I built it to get clean air so I can open the drives. The explanation has worked a treat for visiting parents and colleagues!

How do you hide yours?
Do you keep it absolutely secret and hidden from everyone including loved ones?
Has anyone ever seen your stuff and asked what it is?
How would you handle it if the police asked to come in and look around for an unrelated matter such as a missing person? Remember - they usually look under your bed!


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Re: How do you conceal your illegal grow? [Re: tugwax]
    #11699488 - 12/22/09 02:31 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

i dont think ill let the police know where i keep mine (not like im doing anything illegal anyway :rolleyes: )


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Re: How do you conceal your illegal grow? [Re: tugwax]
    #11699509 - 12/22/09 02:33 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Probably get better answers in the Security and Safety forum. Folks around these parts mostly just grow edibles.


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Re: How do you conceal your illegal grow? [Re: tugwax]
    #11699510 - 12/22/09 02:33 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Rule #1 no one knows what your doing but you

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Re: How do you conceal your illegal grow? [Re: tugwax]
    #11699516 - 12/22/09 02:34 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)



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Re: How do you conceal your illegal grow? [Re: omnia]
    #11699529 - 12/22/09 02:35 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

use solid tubs, put laundry on top to cover the window and stack as high as you can. it may be good to put that tub in another solid tub for that moment so the polyfill or holes wont raise suspicion.  if they are looking for SOMEONE i doubt they will look in a tub on a shelf.


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Re: How do you conceal your illegal grow? [Re: tugwax]
    #11699566 - 12/22/09 02:39 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

I mostly only grow eatables so I dont hide mine. Its all on a set of shelves in my bedroom, with no labels. I also don't tell anyone, or share my harvest with anyone I know. There is no reason anyone would go into my bedroom in my house.  If a cop came for a missing persons search there would be no reason they would be legally allowed to test my fruits to determine if they were actives.  After they leave I would probably burn all of my fruits.


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Re: How do you conceal your illegal grow? [Re: tugwax]
    #11699578 - 12/22/09 02:40 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

if they are looking for someone and they have a warrant that doesn't mention looking for mushrooms, then even if they do find it, they can't do anything about it (unless you get a total asshole cop then you're screwed, edit: they can take it but they can't use it in court to charge you with anything). If they don't have a warrant, tell them to eat a dick, but in a nice way.


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Edited by mastabruce (12/22/09 06:11 PM)

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Re: How do you conceal your illegal grow? [Re: Doc_T]
    #11699635 - 12/22/09 02:47 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Doc_T said:
Probably get better answers in the Security and Safety forum. Folks around these parts mostly just grow edibles.




Of course, the "Magic mushrooms demystified" heading to the website isn't meant to be literal.

Doc is probably right even though this should be a concern for cultivation. Please move it Mr. moderator!

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Re: How do you conceal your illegal grow? [Re: tugwax]
    #11699650 - 12/22/09 02:49 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

tugwax said:
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Doc_T said:
Probably get better answers in the Security and Safety forum. Folks around these parts mostly just grow edibles.




Of course, the "Magic mushrooms demystified" heading to the website isn't meant to be literal.

Doc is probably right even though this should be a concern for cultivation. Please move it Mr. moderator!




:thumbup:

"Illegal" cultivation is not a part of any forum on this board. Read the rules, and find another website.   

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Re: How do you conceal your illegal grow? [Re: tugwax]
    #11699667 - 12/22/09 02:51 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

tugwax said:
Of course, the "Magic mushrooms demystified" heading to the website isn't meant to be literal.




Oh, the legal status isn't a mystery. :nonono: But there's a whole other forum for questions like this, that's all.


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Re: How do you conceal your illegal grow? [Re: I Like Alkaloids]
    #11699677 - 12/22/09 02:52 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

mastabruce said:
if they are looking for someone and they have a warrant that doesn't mention looking for mushrooms, then even if they do find it, they can't do anything about it (unless you get a total asshole cop then you're screwed). If they don't have a warrant, tell them to eat a dick, but in a nice way.



not always true you should read busted in Security and Safety forum


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Re: How do you conceal your illegal grow? (moved) [Re: tugwax]
    #11699721 - 12/22/09 02:58 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

This thread was moved from Mushroom Cultivation.

Reason:
Off topic in cultivation.  Moved to security and safety.

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Re: How do you conceal your illegal grow? [Re: mastabruce]
    #11699723 - 12/22/09 02:58 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

mastabruce said:
if they are looking for someone and they have a warrant that doesn't mention looking for mushrooms, then even if they do find it, they can't do anything about it (unless you get a total asshole cop then you're screwed). If they don't have a warrant, tell them to eat a dick, but in a nice way.




Its nice to believe things like this. But thats not how it would go down man. If a cop found your mushrooms you'd be fucked, end of story.

Seriously, you would tell a cop that just discovered you manufacturing psilocybin mushrooms to eat a dick? Good luck with that one!

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Re: How do you conceal your illegal grow? [Re: simbad42]
    #11699724 - 12/22/09 02:58 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

I don't understand why tugwax hasn't experienced the wrath of the "ban" stick...

Nobody on this forum should be posting about "illegal" cultivation. Period.

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Invisibletugwax
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Re: How do you conceal your illegal grow? (moved) [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #11699789 - 12/22/09 03:06 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks, that was noob like and embarrassing.

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Re: How do you conceal your illegal grow? [Re: twiztidthoughts]
    #11699867 - 12/22/09 03:16 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

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twiztidthoughts said:
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mastabruce said:
if they are looking for someone and they have a warrant that doesn't mention looking for mushrooms, then even if they do find it, they can't do anything about it (unless you get a total asshole cop then you're screwed). If they don't have a warrant, tell them to eat a dick, but in a nice way.




Its nice to believe things like this. But thats not how it would go down man. If a cop found your mushrooms you'd be fucked, end of story.

Seriously, you would tell a cop that just discovered you manufacturing psilocybin mushrooms to eat a dick? Good luck with that one!




Quote:

mastabruce said:
if they don't have a warrant, tell them to eat a dick, but in a nice way





I'm very aware that its not how it always work (insert asshole cop), but that is how it is suppose to work.
Also I believe the "exclusionary rule" applies here(correct me if i'm wrong). if the warrant says they are looking for cocaine and they find marijuana, they can't arrest you for having marijuana (but if they find cocaine, then tough luck).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exclusionary_rule

Edit: There are exceptions to the rule but none of them apply to collecting evidence without the proper warrant. Also, this rule just states they can't present the evidence in court, but they still can take it away. 

Edited by mastabruce (12/22/09 03:44 PM)

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Re: How do you conceal your illegal grow? [Re: mastabruce]
    #11701021 - 12/22/09 05:49 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

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if they are looking for someone and they have a warrant that doesn't mention looking for mushrooms, then even if they do find it, they can't do anything about it




That is 100% unequivocally wrong.

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which holds that evidence collected or analyzed in violation of the defendant's constitutional rights is sometimes inadmissible for a criminal prosecution in a court of law




With a search warrant, they have not violated your rights.

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The exclusionary rule judges the admissibility of evidence based on deontological ethics; that is, it is concerned with how evidence is acquired, rather than what the evidence proves. For this reason, in strict cases, when an illegal action is used by police/prosecution to gain any incriminating result, all evidence whose recovery stemmed from the illegal action—this evidence is known as "fruit of the poisonous tree"—can be thrown out from a jury (or be grounds for a mistrial if too much information has been irrevocably revealed).




A search warrant is a valid search and does not violate your constitutional rights. Given that they are accusing you of kidnapping, they're gonna have a hard time proving that a person would fit in your silverware drawer. A small bag of powder however, they can tear shit up.

LEOs are supposed to act on any evidence that they find within a legal search. When a cop gives you a terry stop, they are looking for weapons. If they so happen to identify contraband as contraband, they are completely able to accuse you of a crime.


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Re: How do you conceal your illegal grow? [Re: fundamentalchair]
    #11701315 - 12/22/09 06:22 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

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Wikipedia says:
The plain view doctrine allows an officer to seize without a warrant, evidence and contraband found in plain view during a lawful observation.

For the plain view doctrine to apply for discoveries, the three-prong Horton test requires the officer to be:

  1. lawfully present at the place where the evidence can be plainly viewed,
  2. the officer must have a lawful right of access to the object, and
  3. the incriminating character of the object must be “immediately apparent.”




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The plain view doctrine has also been expanded to include the sub doctrines of plain feel, plain smell, and plain hearing.




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Re: How do you conceal your illegal grow? [Re: fundamentalchair]
    #11701387 - 12/22/09 06:31 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

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if they are looking for someone and they have a warrant that doesn't mention looking for mushrooms, then even if they do find it, they can't do anything about it




That is 100% unequivocally wrong.




That is 100% fully completely absolutely totally wholly throuroughly right.

Quote:

fundamentalchair said:
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which holds that evidence collected or analyzed in violation of the defendant's constitutional rights is sometimes inadmissible for a criminal prosecution in a court of law




With a search warrant, they have not violated your rights.

Quote:

The exclusionary rule judges the admissibility of evidence based on deontological ethics; that is, it is concerned with how evidence is acquired, rather than what the evidence proves. For this reason, in strict cases, when an illegal action is used by police/prosecution to gain any incriminating result, all evidence whose recovery stemmed from the illegal action—this evidence is known as "fruit of the poisonous tree"—can be thrown out from a jury (or be grounds for a mistrial if too much information has been irrevocably revealed).




A search warrant is a valid search and does not violate your constitutional rights. Given that they are accusing you of kidnapping, they're gonna have a hard time proving that a person would fit in your silverware drawer. A small bag of powder however, they can tear shit up.

LEOs are supposed to act on any evidence that they find within a legal search. When a cop gives you a terry stop, they are looking for weapons. If they so happen to identify contraband as contraband, they are completely able to accuse you of a crime.




Yes, I know a search warrant doesn't violate any rights, but if the warrant says that the cops can only look for illegal item A and they find illegal item B, they can't present illegal item B in court.
In the example of a terry stop, if they are searching you and they find a bag of weed, they can't use it in court against you, because they are searching for weapons.


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