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Re: The Self-Knowledge Thread [Re: Icelander]
#11701317 - 12/22/09 06:22 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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You are an extremely isolated person who is deeply defensive at heart. Your humorous image is a mask for your deeply rooted thoughts about the world. You have a kind nature, and are always helping people who you think are on the wrong path, but sometimes you let your shit get in the way of asking them the right questions.
Wow I'm not sure how much of that I agree with but that's what I wrote.
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Re: The Self-Knowledge Thread [Re: xFrockx]
#11702306 - 12/22/09 08:30 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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You know, I think I probably tore myself a new one there.
Edited by xFrockx (12/22/09 08:31 PM)
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Re: The Self-Knowledge Thread [Re: xFrockx]
#11702366 - 12/22/09 08:38 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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(insert smartass comment about projection here)
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Re: The Self-Knowledge Thread [Re: deCypher]
#11702397 - 12/22/09 08:43 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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-------------------- Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. -- Bob Dylanfireworks_god said:It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.
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Re: The Self-Knowledge Thread [Re: Poid]
#11702425 - 12/22/09 08:48 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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Projection only really applies if you believe in the self. Otherwise its just squiggles and noises.
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Re: The Self-Knowledge Thread [Re: xFrockx]
#11702442 - 12/22/09 08:49 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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What type of projection are you speaking of here?
-------------------- Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. -- Bob Dylanfireworks_god said:It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.
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Re: The Self-Knowledge Thread [Re: Poid]
#11702460 - 12/22/09 08:51 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah good question I know nothing about it. I more or less mean the idea that sometimes we judge people as a reflection of ourselves.
Like thinking a dog is in a good mood when you're in a good mood, or thinking a cat is worried or sad when you are.
In some degree, I think it depends largely on what sort of empirical content the judgements hold, based on specific events. If you have that, then you have something other than your self. It might work in degrees though, so the more or less empirical content you have compared to refectory content will affect how your perceptions are.
But then again, do we ever perceive something other than ourself?
Without something else, it seems we would have nothing. But what is "we"?
What is "ourself"?
Edited by xFrockx (12/22/09 08:59 PM)
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Re: The Self-Knowledge Thread [Re: xFrockx]
#11702627 - 12/22/09 09:13 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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xFrockx said: What is "ourself"?
Look in the fucking mirror.
-------------------- Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. -- Bob Dylanfireworks_god said:It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.
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Re: The Self-Knowledge Thread [Re: Poid]
#11702671 - 12/22/09 09:19 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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The quotes on that word are meant to mean that I'm talking about the concept, not the object.
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Re: The Self-Knowledge Thread [Re: xFrockx]
#11702682 - 12/22/09 09:20 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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What is this "concept" you speak of?
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Re: The Self-Knowledge Thread [Re: xFrockx]
#11702693 - 12/22/09 09:21 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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xFrockx said: The quotes on that word...
What word?
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xFrockx said: ...are meant to mean that I'm talking about the concept, not the object.
WTF's the difference between the concept and the object?
Did you look in the fucking mirror yet?
-------------------- Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. -- Bob Dylanfireworks_god said:It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.
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Re: The Self-Knowledge Thread [Re: Poid]
#11702722 - 12/22/09 09:24 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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"WTF's the difference between the concept and the object? "
"ourselves"
The concept is the idea of self. The object is all the bodies that the idea of self can refer to.
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Re: The Self-Knowledge Thread [Re: xFrockx]
#11702733 - 12/22/09 09:26 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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Oh, ok.
-------------------- Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. -- Bob Dylanfireworks_god said:It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.
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Re: The Self-Knowledge Thread [Re: Poid]
#11702743 - 12/22/09 09:27 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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Oh come on now, at least ask me what I mean by "bodies"
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Re: The Self-Knowledge Thread [Re: xFrockx]
#11702757 - 12/22/09 09:28 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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Thinking about bodies just gets me horny, so no.
-------------------- Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. -- Bob Dylanfireworks_god said:It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.
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Re: The Self-Knowledge Thread [Re: xFrockx]
#11702761 - 12/22/09 09:28 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ask him what he means by "idea" instead. Repeat ad nauseam whenever a synonym for "concept" is given.
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Re: The Self-Knowledge Thread [Re: deCypher]
#11702792 - 12/22/09 09:31 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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By ideas i mean a feeling. By a feeling I mean that qualitative state which needs no words that occurs with the stimulation of our senses.
Edited by xFrockx (12/22/09 09:32 PM)
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Re: The Self-Knowledge Thread [Re: xFrockx]
#11702803 - 12/22/09 09:33 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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Can you define "mean" as you're using it? I'm honestly curious; the meaning of "meaning" is a bitch.
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Re: The Self-Knowledge Thread [Re: deCypher]
#11702819 - 12/22/09 09:34 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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How can you ask me what I mean by meaning?
But to answer, I would say meaning is also a feeling.
Edited by xFrockx (12/22/09 09:35 PM)
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Re: The Self-Knowledge Thread [Re: xFrockx]
#11702839 - 12/22/09 09:36 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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Very easily; I just did.
Edit: so when I ask you what a word means you won't respond with a verbal definition but instead will silently experience a feeling?
-------------------- We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars.
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