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OfflineNoose
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Diagnosis of Tiny Mushrooms
    #11685907 - 12/20/09 12:13 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Hey everyone. I guess my first 'flush' of mushrooms has come through and cant exactly say it's impressive.


The first mushroom actually fruited invitro and I didn't see it for a day or so beofre I even put it in the FC and it is the big long thin one in the picture.

The secod mushroom fruited after being dunk/rolled and sat in the FC for a few days. It is the second largest one- The short fat one. This mushroom fruited at 64-70 degrees, over a 5 day period.

The rest have popped up in the past few days and the veils have broken on all of them without even growing to be an inch tall! They have all matured in less than 3 days.

Heres the skinny:
4oz BRF cakes
(Pure Commercial) Treasure Coast strain
Cakes were dunked for 24 hours.
PMP FC, im not sure how much air my pump puts in there, I got it from craigslist for 3 dollars, hehe.
74-76 degrees Fahrenheit in the closet, heated by an incandescent bulb.
FC is provided 8-14 hours of CFL light per day (aswell as some indirect sunlight from the window that lights the room during the day)
I manually fan the FC 4-5 times a day.
I mist just about as frequently as I fan, though not every fanning.

Those should be the primary factors to my knowledge, if I left anything out just ask.

What am I doing wrong/why are my mushrooms so small? Is this normal for 4 oz cakes? Is it because my incandescent bulb is shining directly onto the FC causing a heat differential and thereby condensation leeching my rH?

Should make for at least one good trip though :smile:.

Thanks for any advice :smile: Here's to hoping for flush #2!

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Re: Diagnosis of Tiny Mushrooms [Re: Noose]
    #11685917 - 12/20/09 12:14 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Could be genetics. Its happens I have had flushes or lack there of, of really small mushrooms, then the next flush is great

Edited by Shea25 (12/20/09 12:18 PM)

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Re: Diagnosis of Tiny Mushrooms [Re: Noose]
    #11685932 - 12/20/09 12:16 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

um it could be a little warmer you want more around the 78-83 range and sometimes this just happens could of been the spores? but how many times has this happened to you?


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Re: Diagnosis of Tiny Mushrooms [Re: Noose]
    #11685934 - 12/20/09 12:16 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

In general, small size is related to substrate moisture content.  Either too dry or too wet will give you very small fruits.  Pick the cakes up to judge moisture content by the weight.  If they're heavy, they could be too wet, and if light as a feather, they're too dry.
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Re: Diagnosis of Tiny Mushrooms [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #11685945 - 12/20/09 12:18 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

my mini cluster:



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Re: Diagnosis of Tiny Mushrooms [Re: dicky21]
    #11685969 - 12/20/09 12:21 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

dicky21 said:
my mini cluster:





WOW haha


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Re: Diagnosis of Tiny Mushrooms [Re: Shea25]
    #11686009 - 12/20/09 12:26 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

RogerRabbit said:
In general, small size is related to substrate moisture content.  Either too dry or too wet will give you very small fruits.  Pick the cakes up to judge moisture content by the weight.  If they're heavy, they could be too wet, and if light as a feather, they're too dry.
RR




Thanks for the tip. Its my first grow so im not exactly sure what their weight should feel like, but I was say overall they are more 'heavy' than 'like a feather'. Feel pretty substantial in mass to me. Not like a rock but like a solid material.

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Shea25 said:
Could be genetics. Its happens I have had flushes or lack there of, of really small mushrooms, then the next flush is great



I've read that second flushes are generally better! Hope that holds true.

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Re: Diagnosis of Tiny Mushrooms [Re: Noose]
    #11686029 - 12/20/09 12:29 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Quite a few times I tend to get bigger second flushes. This whole small mushrooms thing happens to me at times even thoe I do keep the water content perfect and perfect conditions thats why I do believe genetics can be a factor. Thats the name of the game when you for with MS couple that with the fact cakes are not nitrous for big mushrooms too. Use gypsum in your cakes that will aid in the development of the fruits (bigger) Use 1 tablespoon of gypsum for 5 1/2 pint cakes

Edited by Shea25 (12/20/09 12:32 PM)

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Re: Diagnosis of Tiny Mushrooms [Re: Noose]
    #11740268 - 12/29/09 10:04 PM (15 years, 21 days ago)

Ive been out of town for a week and so my mushrooms had to sit unattended for a week. My girlfriend went over to my house today and took pictures.





So I cant say im disappointed. The day I left I counted about 25 pins on my 8 cakes.

1 week later there are a handful of clusters of similar sizes. Im sure my next flush will be better since they wont be neglected!

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Re: Diagnosis of Tiny Mushrooms [Re: Noose]
    #11740407 - 12/29/09 10:34 PM (15 years, 21 days ago)

you think they are so short because they were neglected?

i've left SG chambers alone for 7+ days and returned to monsters...

looks like midget genetics to me :tongue2:\

EDIT: oh wait your not using a shotgun chamber... build one!


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