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Tips on fruiting ?
    #11683346 - 12/19/09 09:20 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

So it's been 2 weeks and my cakes are not fruiting. I'm keeping them humid,
giving them light, and fanning them out about 1-3 times a day.
Does anyone have any tips for helping them fruit. Or maybe I'm doing something
wrong. I'm hoping to try and get a pic of them up soon to get some advice...

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Re: Tips on fruiting ? [Re: dink]
    #11683360 - 12/19/09 09:23 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

First, did you make sure they were fully colonized and then let them sit an extra week after that? Also, are you misting? if not, you need to start misting those bad boys asap ! If so, you need to fan and mist a little bit more than 1 times a day. Try to fan and mist at least 3-4 times a day. Also, if you can take them out in the direct sun light for 10-15 mins... this should help as well ! Good luck, i know you are frustrated, i have some cakes going on 9 days and it sucks !


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Re: Tips on fruiting ? [Re: growguru]
    #11683392 - 12/19/09 09:30 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Light
FAE
Relative Humidity 99%

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Re: Tips on fruiting ? [Re: growguru]
    #11683394 - 12/19/09 09:30 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Puting them in the sun won't be possible, it's 20 below outside
and sun is kinda not out much..
Any specific light I can use to help? Should I be giving them 12 hrs light
12 hours dark specifically?
Is it possible to be too humid?
It is getting frustrating I feel like I'm doing something wrong!!

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Re: Tips on fruiting ? [Re: dink]
    #11683403 - 12/19/09 09:31 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

What is FAE???

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Re: Tips on fruiting ? [Re: dink]
    #11683413 - 12/19/09 09:34 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

fresh air exchange

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Re: Tips on fruiting ? [Re: fordrew]
    #11683444 - 12/19/09 09:40 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Ahh ok well maybe I'll get the humidity up and fan them 5 times a day
just hope it's not all for nothing!! I'll get a pic up..

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Re: Tips on fruiting ? [Re: dink]
    #11683476 - 12/19/09 09:48 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Also I have the cakes on pieces of foil..  Should they just be sitting on the perlite

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Re: Tips on fruiting ? [Re: dink]
    #11683487 - 12/19/09 09:51 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

no, leave them on the foil.
fan moar :thumbup:
and the rh cant get above 100%, so keep it about there :mushroomgrow:


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Re: Tips on fruiting ? [Re: dink]
    #11683491 - 12/19/09 09:51 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

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dink said:
Also I have the cakes on pieces of foil..  Should they just be sitting on the perlite




That's good, sitting them directly on perlite will suck water out of the cakes. At least I think I read that somewhere.

I don't fuck with cakes, they aren't very efficient.

Edit- Like I said cakes suck, I don't mess with them, so take the advice with a gran of salt.


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Re: Tips on fruiting ? [Re: dancefloordale]
    #11683616 - 12/19/09 10:17 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

I have to agree with Dale on that one.. Cakes suck !  They aren't efficient at all ! But... they are a good beginner tek, and really one of the only options you have if you don't have a PC.

12/12 lighting cycle - I use dual over hanging cool flourescent bulbs.

just be patient bro ! No need to get yourself all worked up ! Either they are going to grow or not ! you really have no control over that, all you can do is follow the recommended steps and hope you didn't by shitty spores !

If you want to take your game to the next level, go get RR's videos. They really are great, and for dumbasses like myself, they are super easy to follow!
Much Love, GG !


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Re: Tips on fruiting ? [Re: growguru]
    #11683938 - 12/19/09 11:39 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

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dancefloordale said:
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dink said:
Also I have the cakes on pieces of foil..  Should they just be sitting on the perlite




That's good, sitting them directly on perlite will suck water out of the cakes. At least I think I read that somewhere.






Actually, it's just the opposite.  Your cakes or substrate blocks will become waterlogged.

RR has pointed out that this concern isn't just about over-hydrating the substrate, it's also that it will prevent the wet-dry cycle that is a major pinning trigger for the mycelium.  Here's a couple links:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11578938#11578938
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/9414539#9414539

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growguru said:

I have to agree with Dale on that one.. Cakes suck !  They aren't efficient at all ! But... they are a good beginner tek......






I am not a cake cultivator, but i would use them if i had many, numerous strains or species going at the same time like Workman or RR.  It seems they take a little practice to get good at, to achieve nice pin sets.

Now, I am really not trying to be mean, but can you explain why you would recommend cultivating PF cakes as a route for those brand new to the hobby if you think they "suck"?  I see a lot of folks here say things along the same lines, or to state simply that newbies are really best off to start with cakes instead of a spawn-->bulk substrate project.  I am just wondering why you and others have this opinion; i don't understand it.

Again, I see where cakes are useful for hobbyists, but i insist that if someone wants to embark upon the journey of cultivating cubensis as a hobby there just isn't a reason they shouldn't start with spawning/fruiting grains.  If it's simply because the extra step of spawning grains to a properly pasteurized substrate and simply letting it colonize is overwhelming for the lazy/uninterested new hobbyist that won't spend any time studying, than i could really give a proverbial shit about there perspective.

I am really not as mean as i think I am sounding, I just thrive on real discussion.  You guys know that right?

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So it's been 2 weeks and my cakes are not fruiting. I'm keeping them humid,
giving them light, and fanning them out about 1-3 times a day.






What kind of fruiting chamber are you using (i am wondering how much fresh air exchange you're getting)?

Find a sprayer that produces a fine mist for misting your cakes/substrate.  I use a small hand-pumped sprayer from a hydroponics shop as my mister.  Spray the sides of the tub and perlite as well.  Mix up the perlite by hand when necessary to ensure that it is properly hydrated.

Read up on fanning and misting- you need to fan immediately after misting your cakes/substrate.

I am just assuming you're using some kind of perlite tub....how many inches of perlite?

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dink said:
What is FAE???





This is a link to a short abbreviation/slang list me and someone else threw together:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/8493889#8493889

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dink said:
Any specific light I can use to help? Should I be giving them 12 hrs light
12 hours dark specifically?





It's just that cultivators here have not seen a benefit to giving the mycelium more than 12 hours of light.  It's been observed in some species that fruiting performance is enhanced when the mycelium is allowed a natural 12/12 circadian rhythm.  Search posts tagged under Trusted Cultivators and "circadian" to read more about this. ~P~


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Re: Tips on fruiting ? [Re: Psuper]
    #11684049 - 12/20/09 12:13 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Sounds like you could have just birthed them a bit too early. The cake may not have been fully colonizes.  :shrug:
I have done this when I first started out and the cakes took a lot longer to pin then they should have. 
did you dunk and roll the cakes? or just plop them in after birth?
Just give them a little time, they should come around.

And for everyone who hates cakes. They may not give the best yeilds, but I have fun with them :wink:
small and convenient.
Goodluck with your grow tho!


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