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Does grinding shrooms increase their effect?
    #11680587 - 12/19/09 12:34 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

A friend of a friend swears that if you grind shrooms into almost a powder, they will hit you stronger than shrooms that hasn't been grinded.  The psylocibin would more easily be released into your body if you grind them he says.

I haven't got a grinder so I can't try this but If it is true I will buy one. So ... is it true or is he just imagining this?


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Re: Does grinding shrooms increase their effect? [Re: nyashin]
    #11680606 - 12/19/09 12:38 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

It will hit you faster, yes.  It'll be just as strong in my experience though.


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Re: Does grinding shrooms increase their effect? [Re: CaptainTrips]
    #11680768 - 12/19/09 01:18 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

I can't actually "prove" that grinding them up works better but we swear by it. We went to wal*mart and bought a $20 blender and just use that, then we soak the powder in lemon juice for about 10-15 minutes then chug it. Then the ride begins lol.


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Re: Does grinding shrooms increase their effect? [Re: Weedy]
    #11680788 - 12/19/09 01:22 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

think about it, it will hit you harder if its being absorbed faster,but it wont last as long , its just like parashooting pills, i like parashooting pills but i dont like grinding up my mushies i want that experiance to drag on for a while


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Re: Does grinding shrooms increase their effect? [Re: Weedy]
    #11680794 - 12/19/09 01:25 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

in my experiance it didnt let me get used to the trip since i was being rushed into it, so its more anxiety provoking for me, its definetly a rush tho lol


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Re: Does grinding shrooms increase their effect? [Re: lmfsmoke]
    #11680833 - 12/19/09 01:33 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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lmfsmoke said:
in my experiance it didnt let me get used to the trip since i was being rushed into it, so its more anxiety provoking for me, its definetly a rush tho lol




I can definetly understand where your coming from with the anxiety part. I personally enjoy the fact that I can get trashed in 20 minutes instead of waiting for an hour or so but damn its tough to keep it together sometimes lol. Lately we've been taking PE and wow that shit is intense the whole time.


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Re: Does grinding shrooms increase their effect? [Re: Weedy]
    #11680863 - 12/19/09 01:38 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Um it hits you quicker. I've thought i had a few different peaks from it as oposed to normal munching on em.
Um this is what i think does what, but Its just a guess
Stems = Body high
Caps = Pretty colors, alot of the visuals are here in my opinion. Also if the cap is close and it looks like a little ball on the top of the stem those are actually best ( they havent dropped there spores yet). But big caps are cool to look at anyways
The powder, dust, shake from a bag = I know im gunna sound crazy but.... The pattern you will sometimes see on them. Different mush have different patterns ive come to think but i think it mostly comes from the dust/when its ground up.
A person earlier in this forum mentioned putting lemon jucie with them. This makes the spores disolve into a liquid easier and absorb quicker in your stomache. But i also believe this and griding them up creates a little bit shorter trip. Most of my 6hr trips were this way, when the goal is to get an 8 hr.
I usualy just take a shot or two when i eat um
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Re: Does grinding shrooms increase their effect? [Re: Scudreloaded]
    #11680876 - 12/19/09 01:41 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

The principal of grinding them up is increasing the surface area so they can be digested and absorbed at a faster rate. 

Personally my most enjotable trips were on 2-3 grams ground up and downed in a glass of juice.


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Re: Does grinding shrooms increase their effect? [Re: Scudreloaded]
    #11680960 - 12/19/09 01:58 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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Scudreloaded said:

A person earlier in this forum mentioned putting lemon jucie with them. This makes the spores disolve into a liquid easier and absorb quicker in your stomache.





first of all sorry for the double post

most of what scuderloaded was dead on but this isnt true.  The spores dont contain Psilocybin or Psilocin.  Thats why you can buy spores on line.  The spores only contain the genetic info the plant needs to create these precious chemicals.  This is exactly like a weed seed having no THC but having the potential to create THC at a later point in its life cycle. 

The Psilocybin has to be converted to psilocin to trip.  Its called a prodrug.  Codine is also a pro drug.  Acid is one way to convert Psilocybin to psilocin.  Thats why lemon juice is used, lemon juice is very acidic.  The stomach is very acidic too.

The strongest trips will come off ground mushrooms soaked in lemon juice.  The shot goes down quick too and takes the taste out of the shrooms.


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Re: Does grinding shrooms increase their effect? [Re: MSUman6000]
    #11680984 - 12/19/09 02:02 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

I'm just trying to invest what i know about things of this nature. thanks for correcting me though.
But the closed caps are a little more potent though right? cause all that stuff hasn't fallen out of the cap?
And thanks for saying i was dead on about stuff. I spent too many a nights tripping by myself and trying to figure them out, ya just never know if your right till someone else says yup that's about it.
Now this might not be the right thread, but what are the trips like when you brew a tea with the mushrooms? I've yet to try that one. Put them on a subway once and that made me trip pretty good


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Re: Does grinding shrooms increase their effect? [Re: Scudreloaded]
    #11680999 - 12/19/09 02:05 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

There is no difference between caps and stems, one is not a body high and the other colors and such.  It is soley the genetics of the mushroom


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Re: Does grinding shrooms increase their effect? [Re: suburbanned]
    #11681039 - 12/19/09 02:11 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Hmmm good to know


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Re: Does grinding shrooms increase their effect? [Re: Scudreloaded]
    #11681042 - 12/19/09 02:12 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

I have noticed the different pattern affect with different mushrooms. I know there can be no science behind this since all in all it's just psilocybin. But still as crazy as it sounds I see different re-occurring patterns say when I eat some Panama's or say when I eat some Malabar's?? probably more of a mind thing than a production of the active alkaloids but I still find it fascinating!! And I agree with the duration OP have mentioned ground up hits you faster but does not last as long as where chewed up lasts longer and is not quite as intense...e


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Re: Does grinding shrooms increase their effect? [Re: electrics]
    #11681087 - 12/19/09 02:19 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah that makes sense
I do believe the different strains give different effects, for some reason. Might be different alkaloids in each different mush.
My reasoning for this is
When i bought them from "D" his gave me the pattern and the usual visuals. Ocasonianaly i'd get little floating pinwheels of color. Similar to my little pic. But all over in the air
and then when i bought from "T" his never gave me the patterns really except maybe once but his gave me the trails.
Both are fun for different reasons. I plan on buying several different strains and eating them all at once


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Re: Does grinding shrooms increase their effect? [Re: Scudreloaded]
    #11681187 - 12/19/09 02:35 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Once the cap starts opening the plant no longer devotes energy to producing the psilocin and Psilocybin.  At this point the plant is using its energy in a "sexual" nature and reproducing.  When the plant makes spores its energy expensive, but there is no psychoactive material being made.  This is why people say that small shrooms and pins are more potent than the big ones.  In the smaller, unopened shrooms the plants has been producing chemicals their whole life cycle.  Opened shrooms have been living part of their life cycle where there still growing but there not making the chemicals were looking for. 

Summed up the smaller ones are just a higher percent psychoactive when compared to larger shrooms. 

Ive never made or had mushroom tea, but i know a lot of friends have done it and enjoyed it.

I really enjoy visual trips the most, i actually prefer to take LSD when its available.  Thats why i always opt for a lemon teked more intense, but shorter trip.  On a longer mushroom trip the come down is really uncomfortable for me, lots and lots of confusion.


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Re: Does grinding shrooms increase their effect? [Re: MSUman6000]
    #11681245 - 12/19/09 02:45 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

I don't really get comedowns off shrooms. your trip just starts going back to reality and then ceases. Usualy want to take a nap once its done too, or else i walk around all day thinking i still look like im trippin


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Re: Does grinding shrooms increase their effect? [Re: Scudreloaded]
    #11681282 - 12/19/09 02:52 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Thats how an LSD comedown sounds for me.  When i take large amounts of shrooms (by just chewing them up or to a much lesser extent with lemontek)  i have a great time for the first 4-5 hrs.  Then for the final 3-2 im just really confused.  Its not even a bad trip per say but i feel like all mental clarity and thought process is gone, even on marijuana free trips.  This may be some mental though loop i put myself in but ive had this experience with most of the shrooms ive eaten.


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Re: Does grinding shrooms increase their effect? [Re: MSUman6000]
    #11681304 - 12/19/09 02:55 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah i do love that 4-5 hour mark where things are still crazy. I've found myself coming down off mushrooms soo many times where i start thinking why cant i be going crazy still..lol
it sounds odd
but i think everyone on here knows what i mean


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Re: Does grinding shrooms increase their effect? [Re: Scudreloaded]
    #11682659 - 12/19/09 06:50 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

grinding wont make your shrooms any more potent, however it makes sense that yoiu get a stronger trip from it.

When you eat mushrooms, your stomach has to break down the raw tissue to release the actives, if already broken into tiny ickle peices its going to be much easier to break down. actives will get released and absorbed quicker.

For those that do DMT extractions it can be compared to working with shredded rootbark as apposed to powdered. With shredded rootbark you have to let the solution soak longer to break the bark down but with powder yoiu can start your naptha pulls much sooner.


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Re: Does grinding shrooms increase their effect? [Re: veda_sticks]
    #11682866 - 12/19/09 07:44 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

ah ahh
now
everytime ive drank OJ with them i get brighter visuals.
Someone told me you drink the OJ so you don't get as dehydrated but i seem to get more dehydrated. i'll notice the tingle in my feet like there trying to curl and my lip always gets that puckerd up feeling.
So whats the point in OJ?


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