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OfflineLennybernadino
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BUGS TOO DAMNED MANY BUGS
    #11672477 - 12/17/09 11:26 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

ok without equipment I have bneen using primitive methods for vbarious species quite succesfully, colonizing substrated and such but then come the Bugs, At first it was termites, sow bugs, milipedes, and centipedes . I thought ok they need a plastic barrier they cannot climb, then these other flying bugsd got in with worms and they eat every last miligram of myucelium these blasted beastys I HATE THEM they are like animals. please  help me come up with strategies to protect my outdoor mushroom projects, They are terrible here in the amazon (who woulda thought) I am suirprised that contamination is not that bad of a problem here but the BUGS ARE TERRIBLE : So Any strategies, organic bug repelents or even inorganic baby killing satanic baby dolphin and manatee deforming ozone atmosphere hole punching chemical pesticides wich will kill all bugs that so much as smell my mushrooms and still leave an edible tasty treat wich is humanly safe for cunsumption but will burn the eyes out of the sockets of any organic certification inspector . but preferably organic methods because these bugs are really bad .


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Re: BUGS TOO DAMNED MANY BUGS [Re: Lennybernadino]
    #11672491 - 12/17/09 11:29 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Wow your growing shrooms in the amazon!


One lucky son of a bitch!


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Re: BUGS TOO DAMNED MANY BUGS [Re: newshOne]
    #11672504 - 12/17/09 11:30 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I am growing mycelium consuming arthropods in the amazon, if you think i am so luckiy I will send you somme eggs for a cheap price,! however when i get this bug problem solved, I agree I will be one luicky son of a well my mother is pretty cool but my adoptive mom well thats another story ...


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Re: BUGS TOO DAMNED MANY BUGS [Re: Lennybernadino]
    #11672542 - 12/17/09 11:37 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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Lennybernadino said:
I am growing mycelium consuming arthropods in the amazon, i


lol


A buddy of mine used to have problems with bugs and other animals getting at his shit.  He told me someone recommended that he pee around the vicinity of his grow, and that it would ward off potential 'predators.'  Although, this doesn't sound like something that would work for insects...probably just larger animals..  He told me it worked for him tho...so it couldn't hurt lol

As for pesticides...there's definitely something out there for you, but I personally wouldn't know what to recommend.


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Re: BUGS TOO DAMNED MANY BUGS [Re: staratsx]
    #11672560 - 12/17/09 11:42 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

have you tried nematodes? i heard they can help
i dont know much about them but i was talking to a guy at a hydroponics store and that was one of the things he mentioned
there is also diatomaceous earth which i wont even try to spell right
and that basically shreds an insects exoskeleton so you can try either of those :thumbup:


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Re: BUGS TOO DAMNED MANY BUGS [Re: SillyBilly]
    #11672707 - 12/18/09 12:12 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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there is also diatomaceous earth which i wont even try to spell right
and that basically shreds an insects exoskeleton so you can try either of those :thumbup:




oh yea diatoms....you could try that.  it's basically really tiny shards of glass (SiO2) secreted by photosynthetic organisms in the ocean.  You could just sprinkle that around your grow area.

I don't know if it works for all insects, but I know it works for bugs who lick (clean) themselves, like roaches.  the glass sticks to their body/appendages, and gets ingested when they lick themselves, shredding their digestive tract.


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Re: BUGS TOO DAMNED MANY BUGS [Re: staratsx]
    #11672767 - 12/18/09 12:25 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

and this stuff doesnikçothamrççrm humans?


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Re: BUGS TOO DAMNED MANY BUGS [Re: Lennybernadino]
    #11672790 - 12/18/09 12:31 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Nope :thumbup:

:sunny:


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Re: BUGS TOO DAMNED MANY BUGS [Re: newshOne]
    #11672904 - 12/18/09 12:58 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Drink some ayahuasca and ask the snake gods to protect your shrooms!


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Re: BUGS TOO DAMNED MANY BUGS [Re: SillyBilly]
    #11673072 - 12/18/09 02:02 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Like he said Diatomaceous earth is the definite place to start, Put down a 1' wide trail circle around the area of your grow. You might want to consult directions on putting it directly on the shrooms or consumables. but hes right it shreds the creatures exoskeletons and kills them. Its the arch enemy of most all things that crawl the earth. There are other chems that would take care of the flying types, although I think your  worst problems are from crawler types in the Amazon.
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SillyBilly said:
have you tried nematodes? i heard they can help
i dont know much about them but i was talking to a guy at a hydroponics store and that was one of the things he mentioned
there is also diatomaceous earth which i wont even try to spell right
and that basically shreds an insects exoskeleton so you can try either of those :thumbup:




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Re: BUGS TOO DAMNED MANY BUGS [Re: ShroomProphet]
    #11673124 - 12/18/09 02:21 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

and dont forget rings of copper around your ground will prevent slugs
diatom does not stick to the creatures. it retracts any moisture from their shells and tears them apart. its like broken glass made of sponges.
it will also stop flies from laying eggs and you will prevent gnat larvae invading your substrate.


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Re: BUGS TOO DAMNED MANY BUGS [Re: ShroomProphet]
    #11673173 - 12/18/09 02:46 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I definitely wouldn't "put them on your shrooms," as they are hygroscopic.  and yeah, diatoms will cling to insects, especially hairy ones w/ greater surface area (like roaches..bees...flies).


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Re: BUGS TOO DAMNED MANY BUGS [Re: staratsx]
    #11674489 - 12/18/09 11:20 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Take beer cans and empty them out. Then cut them in half, and fill half way with more beer. Flies and bugs like that will be attracted to the booze, fly in and die. Works for outdoor plants :rolleyes:. Make a perimeter of them around your babies.


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Re: BUGS TOO DAMNED MANY BUGS [Re: LongStrangeTrip]
    #11674584 - 12/18/09 11:39 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

How about a window screen enclosure? If you have access to window screen and some scrap lumber, it would be pretty easy to build a little (or big) 'box' of sorts. Put a hinged lid on it a viola. No chemicals, No DE etc. Elevate it a little and there you go.
Diatomaceous earth looses it's effectiveness when it gets wet so you would go through it like mad.


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Re: BUGS TOO DAMNED MANY BUGS [Re: Epilson Lyrae]
    #11674779 - 12/18/09 12:18 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Yellow plastic with sticky glue.
Bug zappers - UV lights to attract bugs with an electrical grid to fry them.
Many insecticides - products registered for mushrooms
                    pyrethroids -
                    cyromazine                   
there are others such as Regent do search for button mushroom fly control
Natural controls such as frogs ala Stamets in GGMM.
others as listed above.


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Re: BUGS TOO DAMNED MANY BUGS [Re: solumvita]
    #11674890 - 12/18/09 12:41 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

A  mushroom-shaped bug-zapper?


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Re: BUGS TOO DAMNED MANY BUGS [Re: Lennybernadino]
    #11675313 - 12/18/09 01:45 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Hey Lenny,

You can order some Demon WP ( SEE LINK BELOW ).. when i was living in Costa Rica, we used this stuff to kill the milliepeds and centipedes that would get into our sheds. I believe it will work against sow bugs and termites as well. You might want to call the company or ask RR the potential this pesticide would have on mushroom cultivation. If it works for you and they do not ship down to PERU. You can give me the money, i will buy it and ship it to you bro ! Whatever i can do to help my brotha ! Let me know how it pans out for you !!!

DEMON WP


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Re: BUGS TOO DAMNED MANY BUGS [Re: growguru]
    #11679336 - 12/19/09 06:31 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Thank you for the good ideas everyone i will put a few of them into practice, I already solved the crawler problem with a simpleplastic wqall, though teh leaf cutter ants might eat a whole in it at any time fout of spite, it is the flyers now but I think the window screen box should take care of that . I am not sure if I can get diatomacious earth around here, I will try this screen strategy and maybe the beer thing, I have an actual bug zapper I brought from teh US. If all these do not take care tof the problem I will use pesticides . I do not have a bad relationship with snakes that may work too .
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