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SporeGirl000
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Almost here!
#11669336 - 12/17/09 03:39 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Just checked my syringes have been shipped out to me!
They are due to arrive the same day as my 23qt pressure cooker so the timing couldn't be better.
I feel pretty ready but I know I'm going to be reading and rereading 100 times over until they get here.
Right now I have everything I need, and I have a true hepa air purifier running in the closet I'm using, not sure if that is completely necessary but it makes me feel better.
I just read on a thread that Rye Flour is better then Brown Rice Flour for various reasons that I cant remember at the moment, can anyone confirm that?
Ah well anyways just wanted to share my n00b excitement with you and thanks in advance for sharing all the really great Teks and personal knowledge.
-Sg.
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Edited by SporeGirl000 (12/19/09 02:51 PM)
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daytripper05
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If you are getting a PC just start with WBS or Rye preferable because it's a little easier. Follow the teks to a T and let the grains dry completely, the PC for 90-120 minutes. You will get much better results than PF Tek, plus you can do G2G transfers to rapidly expand your mycelium.
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SporeGirl000
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daytripper05 said: If you are getting a PC just start with WBS or Rye preferable because it's a little easier. Follow the teks to a T and let the grains dry completely, the PC for 90-120 minutes. You will get much better results than PF Tek, plus you can do G2G transfers to rapidly expand your mycelium.
Which tek do you recommend? Ive been looking through them and am a little overwhelmed, alot of them are for bulk grows but i was going to start out with cakes because it seemed a bit simpler.
Any suggestions are welcome. :]
-------------------- Anyway, no drug, not even alcohol, causes the fundamental ills of society. If we're looking for the source of our troubles, we shouldn't test people for drugs, we should test them for stupidity, ignorance, greed and love of power. ~P.J. O'Rourke
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I cant help you with the tek, But you really should go bulk right off the bat. I started with cakes for the same reason you stated, and I so wish id of went full out bulk! Do whatever makes you happy tho
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SporeGirl000
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esquaredx said: I cant help you with the tek, But you really should go bulk right off the bat. I started with cakes for the same reason you stated, and I so wish id of went full out bulk! Do whatever makes you happy tho
lol alright. I just dont want to fuck up ya know?
What bulk tek did you refer to?
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-------------------- AMU
Best Thread Ever
CapZilla said:
not sure what GE and FAE are but i should probably get some.
Citric said:
Your signature is wrong on colonization temps!
GOOD JUDGMENT COMES FROM EXPERIENCE
EXPERIENCE COMES FROM BAD JUDGMENT
ROOM TEMP 70-75 IS BEST FOR COLONIZATION
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SporeGirl000
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Thank you noobie
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noobieshroomie
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like i said im sure you will find something
-noobie-
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Best Thread Ever
CapZilla said:
not sure what GE and FAE are but i should probably get some.
Citric said:
Your signature is wrong on colonization temps!
GOOD JUDGMENT COMES FROM EXPERIENCE
EXPERIENCE COMES FROM BAD JUDGMENT
ROOM TEMP 70-75 IS BEST FOR COLONIZATION
Thank you mycochef
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SporeGirl000
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man I'm feeling overwhelmed by all these different teks ah!
-------------------- Anyway, no drug, not even alcohol, causes the fundamental ills of society. If we're looking for the source of our troubles, we shouldn't test people for drugs, we should test them for stupidity, ignorance, greed and love of power. ~P.J. O'Rourke
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Shea25
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noobieshroomie
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just find one that looks easy and follow it simple is better sometimes
-noobie-
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Best Thread Ever
CapZilla said:
not sure what GE and FAE are but i should probably get some.
Citric said:
Your signature is wrong on colonization temps!
GOOD JUDGMENT COMES FROM EXPERIENCE
EXPERIENCE COMES FROM BAD JUDGMENT
ROOM TEMP 70-75 IS BEST FOR COLONIZATION
Thank you mycochef
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dancefloordale
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Re: Almost here! [Re: Shea25]
#11670472 - 12/17/09 06:06 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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A noob with a PC? 
Forget PF tek. Go with grains.
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daytripper05
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SporeGirl000 said:
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daytripper05 said: If you are getting a PC just start with WBS or Rye preferable because it's a little easier. Follow the teks to a T and let the grains dry completely, the PC for 90-120 minutes. You will get much better results than PF Tek, plus you can do G2G transfers to rapidly expand your mycelium.
Which tek do you recommend? Ive been looking through them and am a little overwhelmed, alot of them are for bulk grows but i was going to start out with cakes because it seemed a bit simpler.
Any suggestions are welcome. :]
www.mushroomvideos.com for all things mycology. This is where all noobs should start. If you feel overwhelmed, start with the PF tek. Then after you finish and the jars are colonizing, try grains and liquid culture (LC). Try as many things as you can to keep busy until your first flush comes. It won't take long, but you will get a grasp for how to do things the right way. But buy those DVD's. It's the best money spent for getting started with the hobby. If you follow his directions, you can't really fail (in the long run anyway.)
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daytripper05
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dancefloordale said: A noob with a PC? 
Forget PF tek. Go with grains.
She's smarter than she realizes. I have never had a successful attempt without a PC (although I am very aware people CAN succeed without one). Grains are way better and not harder, just a few extra steps. Plus the information available today is the best it has ever been. With pictorials and RR's videos, it's pretty much impossible to fail if one applies enough effort.
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dancefloordale
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daytripper05 said:
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dancefloordale said: A noob with a PC? 
Forget PF tek. Go with grains.
She's smarter than she realizes. I have never had a successful attempt without a PC (although I am very aware people CAN succeed without one). Grains are way better and not harder, just a few extra steps. Plus the information available today is the best it has ever been. With pictorials and RR's videos, it's pretty much impossible to fail if one applies enough effort.
I completely agree.
I did a patch of PF jars as my first endeavor; steamed them in a pot. They all colonized and I had not one contam; made the syringe myself from a 3 yr old print that looked like it had been through hell.
Went straight to grain and haven't made a cake since, lol. Never had any problems with those either.
All that just to say, I followed carefully selected teks the first time I tried something new, no deviations and didn't encounter a problem.
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daytripper05
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Yup I have never failed when I followed the teks to the letter. It was only when I improvised I failed. Grain being the exception. For some reason I have to modify all the grain teks when it comes to drying. It never completely drys on the surface unless I spread it out on a towel. I have also increased PC'ing times to 120 min. Those are the only modifications I do to RR's grain prep. Bacteria in grains has been the things most likely to cause me to fail and that was due to drying and PC'ing times. It's all about trial and error.
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in regards to your rye flour question. it is not necessarily better than rice flour. you wont notice a difference in performance when using either one or the other. one thing that sucks about rye flour is that it gets all sticky and clumpy when you mix it with water and vermiculite. making it more of a pain in the ass to work with compared to the rice flour.
but if you skip the pf tek then just do wbs and use docs wild bird seed tek. it is very easy to do.
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dancefloordale
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Re: Almost here! [Re: prismism]
#11671832 - 12/17/09 09:26 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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prismism said: but if you skip the pf tek then just do wbs and use docs wild bird seed tek. it is very easy to do.
I used that my first few times.
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SporeGirl000
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dancefloordale said: A noob with a PC? 
Forget PF tek. Go with grains.
Yeah I have been looking at the Rye Grain teks for some reason I just prefer that to the birdseed...maybe its the cleaner look lol I don't know.
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dancefloordale said:
She's smarter than she realizes. I have never had a successful attempt without a PC (although I am very aware people CAN succeed without one). Grains are way better and not harder, just a few extra steps. Plus the information available today is the best it has ever been. With pictorials and RR's videos, it's pretty much impossible to fail if one applies enough effort.
Thank you! No cheaping out here! I decided to just bite the bullet and shell out alot of money in the beginning it just seems like it would be worth it in the end.
Thanks for all the help so far.
-------------------- Anyway, no drug, not even alcohol, causes the fundamental ills of society. If we're looking for the source of our troubles, we shouldn't test people for drugs, we should test them for stupidity, ignorance, greed and love of power. ~P.J. O'Rourke
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rockNrave
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still doing my first grow myself, went with bulk, wbs...so far everything is going great!
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11019922 - WBS TEK
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/10628004#10628004 - RTV Silicone Lids
thats how far i am...about to make a monotub after the last jar colonizes from my G2G...its alot of fun man and those are the teks ive used my first time, easy easy
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SporeGirl000
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rockNrave said: still doing my first grow myself, went with bulk, wbs...so far everything is going great!
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11019922 - WBS TEK
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/10628004#10628004 - RTV Silicone Lids
thats how far i am...about to make a monotub after the last jar colonizes from my G2G...its alot of fun man and those are the teks ive used my first time, easy easy 
Question to anyone:: in the wbs teks am I able to sub rye grain instead?
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dancefloordale
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Sure, but you would be better off using a rye tek. There are some slight variations.
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SporeGirl000
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I actually really like the Feel Family tek.
I just might go with the WBS ah decisions decisions.. :]
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dancefloordale
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SporeGirl000 said: I actually really like the Feel Family tek.
I just might go with the WBS ah decisions decisions.. :]
That tek is more how I prepare my WBS currently. It's good too.
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daytripper05
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The thing that I hate about WBS is the cleanup. That stuff got everywhere and was really dirty and took A LOT of rinses. Rye is cheaper (for me) and takes less time to prepare and less time to clean up. Plus RR and many TC swear by it helping yields and being superior to other grains. If I was to do any other grain it would be millet for it's size.
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