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 sansa
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 Re: Must Read!! New Research Concludes: Cubes Unexposed to Light are 100 Xs more POTENT!!  [Re: LeopardMan]
#11667697 - 12/17/09 11:28 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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LeopardMan said:
Looks like nobody here except me, Doc and the OP wants to read the full article. Though I am sure RR is right, why dont you guys just break your piggy bank and stop arguing? 
Is there a paypal account or something we can chip in to in order to pay for it?
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 LeopardMan
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Re: Must Read!! New Research Concludes: Cubes Unexposed to Light are 100 Xs more POTENT!! [Re: sansa]
#11667714 - 12/17/09 11:31 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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Read above. We are waiting for pledges to come in. 
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Zed
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Re: Must Read!! New Research Concludes: Cubes Unexposed to Light are 100 Xs more POTENT!! [Re: LeopardMan]
#11667767 - 12/17/09 11:41 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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Il chuck in a quid. (£1).
pm me when you want it paypalling across.
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sansa
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Re: Must Read!! New Research Concludes: Cubes Unexposed to Light are 100 Xs more POTENT!! [Re: koopa_troopa]
#11667891 - 12/17/09 11:58 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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koopa_troopa said:
aight doc.. if we can get together 10 bucks from everyone else ill cover the remaining 15 just so we can see exactly how this hole thing pans out.. either way should be interesting 
I'm quoting this because it was difficult to find in this thread exactly who to send the $ to. I'm PMing you for your paypal address...
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sansa
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Re: Must Read!! New Research Concludes: Cubes Unexposed to Light are 100 Xs more POTENT!! [Re: sansa]
#11667910 - 12/17/09 12:01 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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According to this:
http://www.nida.nih.gov/Infofacts/hallucinogens.html
"These mushrooms typically contain less than 0.5 percent psilocybin plus trace amounts of psilocin, another hallucinogenic substance."
So it may be there's so little psilocin to begin with that 100x doesn't matter.
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Re: Must Read!! New Research Concludes: Cubes Unexposed to Light are 100 Xs more POTENT!! [Re: sansa]
#11667977 - 12/17/09 12:13 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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RogerRabbit
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Re: Must Read!! New Research Concludes: Cubes Unexposed to Light are 100 Xs more POTENT!! [Re: sansa]
#11668029 - 12/17/09 12:22 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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Guys, the bottom line is don't dry your mushrooms in the sun, which nobody does anyway. I have a subscription to the journal. I'll check the article when I get time and see what's there, but it won't be today or tomorrow, because I'm swamped with work. I can't post it for copyright legal issues, but I'll read it and see what they're trying to say.
From what it appears, they're reporting that after harvest, sunlight degrades psilocin, which we already knew. It doesn't say if you dry in the dark, the psilocin content is going to be raised, it simply says it won't be degraded by up to 99% due to sunlight. We also know that air degrades psilocin, and that isn't going to change. Don't read more into this paper than what is actually there.
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Doc_T
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Re: Must Read!! New Research Concludes: Cubes Unexposed to Light are 100 Xs more POTENT!! [Re: RogerRabbit]
#11668049 - 12/17/09 12:25 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ok, thanks RR.
May I suggest locking this thread temporarily until somebody reads or posts the article and we have something to talk about?
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Re: Must Read!! New Research Concludes: Cubes Unexposed to Light are 100 Xs more POTENT!! [Re: Doc_T]
#11668070 - 12/17/09 12:30 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'd contribute to getting the article, but:
1. there are other ways to get the article for free, it just may take a while.
2. I don't have (and I don't wish to have) any way to pay you electronically.
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RogerRabbit
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Re: Must Read!! New Research Concludes: Cubes Unexposed to Light are 100 Xs more POTENT!! [Re: Doc_T]
#11668082 - 12/17/09 12:31 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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If someone posts the article, I'll have to delete it, so don't waste your money trying to buy it. The IJMM is pretty damned picky about copyright infringement. The editor knows me personally and also knows I'm a mod here. I'll take a look later. Right now, I have to log off and get to work.
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PrimalSoup
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Re: Must Read!! New Research Concludes: Cubes Unexposed to Light are 100 Xs more POTENT!! [Re: sansa]
#11668097 - 12/17/09 12:33 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well, cubes usually have fair (approx equal) amounts of both psilocybin and psilocin in the assays I've seen. Woodlovers tend to have more psilocybin and less psilocin, and store better for that reason. I'm not yet convinced this isn't just "why do my shrooms lose potency if I dry them in the sun?" still.
@all>I'm sorry I said "Hmm, 100 times 1% by weight would be... " - it was a joke, ok? Rare is a cube with 1% psilocin! Could happen, but it could be they're measuring trace amounts and then boosting them up to what people are used to, also, like Sansa says.
So I'm merely curious at this point. Let's find out already! I'll paypal a couple bucks if it means I get can get an electronic copy to study. The article goes for $35, all we need is the OP to make an email account and post it (the email account, not the article!) for the $s (and £s and euros) to roll in. Great scam!!!
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dancefloordale
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Re: Must Read!! New Research Concludes: Cubes Unexposed to Light are 100 Xs more POTENT!! [Re: koopa_troopa]
#11668749 - 12/17/09 02:06 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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koopa_troopa said:
Ill be at class n an hour to check it out.. you sure you checked the "internets" lol?? bc not being able to find the journal makes me seriously doubt your googling prowess.. Stamets is a contributor to editorials in the journal
Hardly. I accessed Duke, UNC, and NCSU libraires, among a few others, and turned up nothing. They don't even recognize the journal. It isn't the "internets", its singular, there is only one "internet".
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growguru
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Re: Must Read!! New Research Concludes: Cubes Unexposed to Light are 100 Xs more POTENT!! [Re: dancefloordale]
#11669002 - 12/17/09 02:47 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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Are you people that broke that you cant even afford $39 or whatever it is..... that is pretty sad !
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dancefloordale
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Re: Must Read!! New Research Concludes: Cubes Unexposed to Light are 100 Xs more POTENT!! [Re: growguru]
#11669020 - 12/17/09 02:51 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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growguru said:
Are you people that broke that you cant even afford $39 or whatever it is..... that is pretty sad !
Are you paying for it? Didn't think so.
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growguru
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Re: Must Read!! New Research Concludes: Cubes Unexposed to Light are 100 Xs more POTENT!! [Re: dancefloordale]
#11669040 - 12/17/09 02:53 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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I will pay for it, but RR said it cannot be posted for copyright infringment ! i just think it was funny that someone commented lets start a paypal fund to raise $39.. If somebody can suggest a way we can all look at it and share info, i will buy it !
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Doc_T
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Re: Must Read!! New Research Concludes: Cubes Unexposed to Light are 100 Xs more POTENT!! [Re: growguru]
#11669052 - 12/17/09 02:56 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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He said he won't post it. He didn't say that you can't.
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LeopardMan
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Re: Must Read!! New Research Concludes: Cubes Unexposed to Light are 100 Xs more POTENT!! [Re: growguru]
#11669058 - 12/17/09 02:57 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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You can pay and then PM the article. You can send a PM to anyone interested in it. There is no copyright infringment in doing so. We got a Rockefeller folks 
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Edited by LeopardMan (12/17/09 02:58 PM)
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growguru
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Re: Must Read!! New Research Concludes: Cubes Unexposed to Light are 100 Xs more POTENT!! [Re: growguru]
#11669062 - 12/17/09 02:58 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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RR Said:
If someone posts the article, I'll have to delete it, so don't waste your money trying to buy it.
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PrimalSoup
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Re: Must Read!! New Research Concludes: Cubes Unexposed to Light are 100 Xs more POTENT!! [Re: growguru]
#11669090 - 12/17/09 03:03 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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It's an electronic document, so, I don't know, email might work. If you want to download it for $35 I'd happy to contribute a buck or two.
Realistically, anybody could afford it, but nobody really believes it's likely to pan out as useful, so nobody particularly wants to afford it...
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Re: Must Read!! New Research Concludes: Cubes Unexposed to Light are 100 Xs more POTENT!! [Re: growguru]
#11669093 - 12/17/09 03:03 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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I am going to go ahead and order for everybody ! Consider it an early christmas present for everyone ! just keep my in mind if any of you guys have any prints you want to donate ! There is a bunch of articles within the main journal... can somebody confirm the article name for me.
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