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Time for a new number?
#11661933 - 12/16/09 12:31 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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Unfortunately, a friend of mine left his mobile (cell phone) in a taxi on Friday night. The idiot had over 500+ text messages sitting in his inbox and I know a number of these were sent from myself. Some of these texts could be incriminating and I'm starting to think it might be a good idea to change number.
Who knows where this phone ended up? I asked him if there was a PIN code to stop people accessing the phone and he said there wasn't. This dilemma has been bugging me for a few days so I thought I would ask the people here for a second opinion.
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Re: Time for a new number? [Re: gENERIX]
#11662008 - 12/16/09 12:44 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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Why doesn't he get in touch w/ the cab company and ask if they found a phone in the cab that picked him up?
They've got records of where one was picked up, the time, destination, etc...
Next customers should've given the phone to the driver
Have you called his phone for him to see if anyone's answered?
I doubt it's in the hands of any authorities.
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Re: Time for a new number? [Re: Tri High]
#11662039 - 12/16/09 12:49 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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I was with him when he lost his phone but he never realized until the following morning. When he contacted the company, the driver said he found nothing in the back seat where my friend was sitting.
My guess is another passenger later that night noticed the phone and kept it without informing the taxi driver. You don't think we stay in a world where every ones honest do you?
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Re: Time for a new number? [Re: gENERIX]
#11662069 - 12/16/09 12:53 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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Eh... My friend had left her phone in a taxi and later the taxi driver dropped it by our house.
I guess if it was a nice phone it would be different.
Just don't answer the calls from random numbers...
I still doubt that the authorities will become involved. Change your number if you're truly worried about it.
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Re: Time for a new number? [Re: gENERIX]
#11662114 - 12/16/09 01:00 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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If someone finds the phone, reads the text messages and turns it in to the police, that could start an investigation.
It might be a good time to get a tracphone, and make sure no pot stems or anything suspicious goes into the trash for the next few months.
Its never a good idea to send incriminating text messages. They are stored in many places for long periods of time. It would be much safer to call the people and say the incriminating things instead, though that isn't recommended either for obvious reasons.
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Re: Time for a new number? [Re: Tri High]
#11662243 - 12/16/09 01:23 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thanks for the feedback, I think it might be time to change number.
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Re: Time for a new number? [Re: gENERIX]
#11668046 - 12/17/09 12:24 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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All I can say is DUMBASS!
Never send incriminating text messages, it's the dumbest thing you can do. Cops need a wiretap warrant to listen to your calls. To get your text messages they don't need anything at all. That makes it very stupid to text anything.
When they find the phone or someone turns it in as lost they'll look through it to find the owner. When they find the text messages they'll pull every text you've ever sent, all without a warrant. So basically you've just handed the cops way more than enough to put you in the hot seat for years to come.
If they've got enough time they'll also get everyone's text messages who you've texted incriminating evidence, again no warrant necessary. So basically you've handed over every text you've sent and all your friends texts too. You should warn them and also tell them how stupid it is to text anything you don't want the government reading.
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Re: Time for a new number? [Re: gENERIX]
#11668085 - 12/17/09 12:32 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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If you're only texting about use/minor dealing I wouldn't be worried.
They have better things to be doing than following random leads through texts found in some random phone.
Are you registered under real details?
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I don't think it'd be hard for the police to ask your service holder whose the owner of such-and-such number, and, unless we are somehow protected through security, I'm certain they could tell him. So getting a new phone just sounds like a waste of time, to me.
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Re: Time for a new number? [Re: Mr Cyan]
#11670249 - 12/17/09 05:32 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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They have better things to be doing than following random leads through texts found in some random phone.
Not really. A lot of police departments are way overfunded and way overstaffed and have nothing better to do than chase around random leads.
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Re: Time for a new number? [Re: fastfred]
#11671686 - 12/17/09 09:04 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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Cops need a wiretap warrant to listen to your calls.
Source?
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A lot of police departments are way overfunded and way overstaffed...
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I guess that the law on text messages has recently changed. Previously texts were treated like business records. So getting texts was the same as getting your phone records, which doesn't require a warrant.
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The next issue the Ninth Circuit decides is that text messages are protected by the Fourth Amendment. The DOJ and others have argued that because email and text messages are stored by third parties that have the practical ability to read them, senders and recipients have no expectation of privacy in those messages and thus they receive no constitutional protection from unreasonable searches and seizures. The Ninth Circuit rejects this view, as a panel of the Sixth Circuit did in a landmark ruling last year, Warshak v. US. It holds that text messages, and presumably emails, are like letters or packages, and are protected even though the shipper could open them.
This ruling has two privacy friendly results. First, the police need a warrant to get your email and text messages if stored for less than 180 days. Second, even if your employer pays for your use of third party text or email services, your boss can’t get copies of your messages from that provider without your permission.
There seems to be conflicting decisions on this issue... http://news.cnet.com/Police-Blotter-Armed-robbers-nabbed-through-text-messages/2100-1036_3-6231980.html?tag=untagged
So it seems like the issue is not yet settled. Until it is you should not text anything you don't want read by others. That should be common sense, but some people still need reminding apparently.
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what did these "incriminating texts" say??
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Anonymous said: All I can say is DUMBASS!
Never send incriminating text messages, it's the dumbest thing you can do. Cops need a wiretap warrant to listen to your calls. To get your text messages they don't need anything at all. That makes it very stupid to text anything.
i doubt whoever has it would hand it into the police if they were going to give it to anybody it would be the taxi driver
they're probably keeping it for personal use..it's not uncommon
and to think that police are going through everybody's text messages to try to bust people is ridiculous so many people talk about drugs and illegal activity through texts..nothing's going to happen
if they handed it into the police (which i highly, highly doubt) then they might be able to do that..not sure if they can though
unless your texts were about a murder you pulled i think you're fine
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i doubt whoever has it would hand it into the police if they were going to give it to anybody it would be the taxi driver
Don't know where you're from but in the US lost and found items usually get turned into the local police department or stolen by the finder.
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and to think that police are going through everybody's text messages to try to bust people is ridiculous
Yeah, it's just crazy to think some bored cop doing an 8 hour shift at the cop shop is going to play with a cell phone sitting in the lost and found box.
It's even crazier to think they might look through the text messages trying to identify the owner.
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Re: Time for a new number? [Re: fastfred]
#11674818 - 12/18/09 12:27 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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i wasn't talking about going through a found phone i was talking about the statement he made about doing things through texts period
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Re: Time for a new number? [Re: gENERIX]
#11674875 - 12/18/09 12:38 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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and RP, why don't you just cancel the phone you have now and get a new one? then all they can do is take your sim card and put it inside another phone and see your contacts texts won't show up in the new one unless you have them saved to the sim card which is uncommon
and i'm not even sure if the sim card will work after you cancel it it would probably say invalid sim
just cancel your phone and buy a new one no need to change numbers
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In the end, I decided to buy myself a new Pay as you go Sim card. It seemed the most sensible option and I feel more comfortable knowing my number has changed.
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Re: Time for a new number? [Re: gENERIX]
#11710305 - 12/24/09 03:28 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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Not really. A lot of police departments are way overfunded and way overstaffed and have nothing better to do than chase around random leads.
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