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Recommend a vaporizer if you'd be so kind...
    #11660295 - 12/16/09 05:07 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

So I've started smoking enough pot again to warrant the purchase of a new smoking apparatus.

I'm in the market for a vaporizer specifically.  However, I don't want any plastic pieces near any of the hot "vapor".  So that means no Volcano, no plastic whips, etc.

Any ideas?


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Re: Recommend a vaporizer if you'd be so kind... [Re: two_rivers]
    #11660331 - 12/16/09 05:25 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

The best all glass vaporiozer is the Vriptech VHW.

When I mean all glass, it's ALL GLASS, the air and the vapor only touches glass and is never exposed to any other material. The heating element is incased in glass and isn't part of the the airpath.



Produces the best tasting vapor of ANY vaporizer, replicates the bong smoking experience perfectly, the only downside is the short warranty (although the owner seems to fix nearly 100% of vapes, even out of warranty, he's a great bloke).


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Re: Recommend a vaporizer if you'd be so kind... [Re: Chubba]
    #11660371 - 12/16/09 05:48 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)



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Re: Recommend a vaporizer if you'd be so kind... [Re: Chubba]
    #11660380 - 12/16/09 05:54 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Wow...

Ok, I don't know how much that thing costs, but I think it's safe to assume it's out of my price range.

Looks pretty awesome though.

I'm looking to spend less than $200 or so... probably should have mentioned that earlier.  :picard:

It doesn't need to be anything flashy or large.  Even a vaporizer pipe thingy would be fine.  I just want something functional, practical, and plastic free.


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Re: Recommend a vaporizer if you'd be so kind... [Re: batheinthefountain]
    #11660383 - 12/16/09 05:56 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Nah, I don't like the plastic tube on the whip.  I actually already own one of those, but I don't really like using it so I let my friend borrow it.


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Re: Recommend a vaporizer if you'd be so kind... [Re: two_rivers]
    #11660398 - 12/16/09 06:14 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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I'm looking to spend less than $200 or so... probably should have mentioned that earlier.  :picard:




You could probably get the wand + bowl for around $200 then use it on any GG bong, the complete kit (wand, bowl, bong, stand) is $300.

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It doesn't need to be anything flashy or large.  Even a vaporizer pipe thingy would be fine.  I just want something functional, practical, and plastic free.




The glass vapor genie is fucking SICK, if you don't mind inhaling a lighter flame, it's right up your alley.

With a bit of skill, MASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSIVE clouds that rival electric vaporizers.



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Re: Recommend a vaporizer if you'd be so kind... [Re: Chubba]
    #11660574 - 12/16/09 08:42 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Vapor genie, get the hand carved ones.  I had one and its awesome


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Re: Recommend a vaporizer if you'd be so kind... [Re: two_rivers]
    #11660674 - 12/16/09 09:30 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Volcano is really the only option.
Save up your money and wait for it.


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Re: Recommend a vaporizer if you'd be so kind... [Re: MisterMuscaria]
    #11660871 - 12/16/09 10:33 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Something you need to light yourself is never going to be as good as a Vapor Bros and definitely not as good as a Volcano.


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Re: Recommend a vaporizer if you'd be so kind... [Re: two_rivers]
    #11660900 - 12/16/09 10:42 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

How about the Verdamper Vaporizer or the herborizer ?


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Re: Recommend a vaporizer if you'd be so kind... [Re: MisterMuscaria]
    #11660907 - 12/16/09 10:44 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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Volcano is really the only option.
Save up your money and wait for it.




I'm so sick of this statement. My Vapor Bros was cheap as fuck and it destroys all the ROORs, Illadelphs and high end pieces I encounter in my life. Is it the Volcano? No, but you're already so far away of the game. Saying there is only "one" option is fucking ignorant.


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Re: Recommend a vaporizer if you'd be so kind... [Re: MisterMuscaria]
    #11660932 - 12/16/09 10:50 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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Volcano is really the only option.
Save up your money and wait for it.




:rolleyes:

Fuck the volcano, for the half the price you can get the Extreme Vaporizer which is just as good if not better.

http://www.gotvape.com/store/extreme-vaporizer.php

Or roll with vaporwarez or vaporbros. why don't you like the plastic tubing on the whip?


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Re: Recommend a vaporizer if you'd be so kind... [Re: publicenemy1]
    #11660984 - 12/16/09 11:00 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Ill believe it when I tried it.

I wanted to get a vapirone at first but then I tried that and it was crap in comparison.


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Re: Recommend a vaporizer if you'd be so kind... [Re: Rocker232]
    #11661010 - 12/16/09 11:08 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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MisterMuscaria said:
Volcano is really the only option.
Save up your money and wait for it.




I'm so sick of this statement. My Vapor Bros was cheap as fuck and it destroys all the ROORs, Illadelphs and high end pieces I encounter in my life. Is it the Volcano? No, but you're already so far away of the game. Saying there is only "one" option is fucking ignorant.



For the most part, agreed.  I have a vapor bros and I get way higher off it than my buddies volcano, difference is you have to learn little techniques to get the most out of it.  Only thing the vbros cant beat is my toro though, vapor toro is fun though too :vaped:


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Re: Recommend a vaporizer if you'd be so kind... [Re: Gr33nTree73]
    #11661033 - 12/16/09 11:14 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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MisterMuscaria said:
Volcano is really the only option.
Save up your money and wait for it.




I'm so sick of this statement. My Vapor Bros was cheap as fuck and it destroys all the ROORs, Illadelphs and high end pieces I encounter in my life. Is it the Volcano? No, but you're already so far away of the game. Saying there is only "one" option is fucking ignorant.



For the most part, agreed.  I have a vapor bros and I get way higher off it than my buddies volcano, difference is you have to learn little techniques to get the most out of it. 




Ain't it the truth.  My Vaporwarez gets me :vaped: beyond comprehension

This is http://www.gotvape.com/store/vapor.warez.vapor.cannon.standard.php is the best


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Re: Recommend a vaporizer if you'd be so kind... [Re: Gr33nTree73]
    #11661095 - 12/16/09 11:36 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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MisterMuscaria said:
Volcano is really the only option.
Save up your money and wait for it.




I'm so sick of this statement. My Vapor Bros was cheap as fuck and it destroys all the ROORs, Illadelphs and high end pieces I encounter in my life. Is it the Volcano? No, but you're already so far away of the game. Saying there is only "one" option is fucking ignorant.



For the most part, agreed.  I have a vapor bros and I get way higher off it than my buddies volcano, difference is you have to learn little techniques to get the most out of it.  Only thing the vbros cant beat is my toro though, vapor toro is fun though too :vaped:




I will agree on the trick part though. My girlfriend and a few others including myself know how to hit it properly. I can take one hit and be pretty damn good for a bit. It just gets annoying when I have other friends who don't know how to hit it and they feel the need to keep hitting it and look down on me for turning down a hit. Regardless of the high (which is awesome) you save soooooo much money on bud.


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Re: Recommend a vaporizer if you'd be so kind... [Re: Rocker232]
    #11661160 - 12/16/09 11:53 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

http://www.gotvape.com/store/easy-vape-digital-vaporizer.php

Just picked this up for $100. Truly a good vaporizer. They also sell a few diff kinds @ their store, check em out. :thumbup:


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Re: Recommend a vaporizer if you'd be so kind... [Re: XiC_clone]
    #11661256 - 12/16/09 12:17 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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http://www.gotvape.com/store/easy-vape-digital-vaporizer.php

Just picked this up for $100. Truly a good vaporizer. They also sell a few diff kinds @ their store, check em out. :thumbup:




This uses a plastic whip which the OP does not want.


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Re: Recommend a vaporizer if you'd be so kind... [Re: Rocker232]
    #11661328 - 12/16/09 12:33 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I've always been curious about this one.  Might want to give it a shot OP.

http://www.gotvape.com/store/vapolution.vaporizer.standard.php


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Re: Recommend a vaporizer if you'd be so kind... [Re: Rocker232]
    #11661358 - 12/16/09 12:42 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

When i actually get monies to spend on a vape id get either da budda, or a vapor genie.


Da budda has a sale right now $189 for vape, whip, 3 screens, 3 year warranty, lifetime warranty on labor.



I dont like the idea of metal heating elements, like in the volcano, or vapor bros. Metal ions are a big no no.

Vriptech VHW sounds interesting since the element is encased in glass.


OP, do you want a bag vape? As far as i know only vapes available are either bag, whip or pipes.


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Re: Recommend a vaporizer if you'd be so kind... [Re: ThirdEyeOpening]
    #11661380 - 12/16/09 12:46 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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When i actually get monies to spend on a vape id get either da budda, or a vapor genie.


Da budda has a sale right now $189 for vape, whip, 3 screens, 3 year warranty, lifetime warranty on labor.



I dont like the idea of metal heating elements, like in the volcano, or vapor bros. Metal ions are a big no no.

Vriptech VHW sounds interesting since the element is encased in glass.


OP, do you want a bag vape? As far as i know only vapes available are either bag, whip or pipes.




A friend of mine has Da Buddha and he and I both agree that my Vapor Bros hits much better.


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Re: Recommend a vaporizer if you'd be so kind... [Re: Rocker232]
    #11661395 - 12/16/09 12:49 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

hrmm, interesting.

The vapor bros uses a metal element tho right?


Looks like im leaning towards the Vriptech VHW if it hits well.


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Re: Recommend a vaporizer if you'd be so kind... [Re: ThirdEyeOpening]
    #11661413 - 12/16/09 12:53 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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hrmm, interesting.

The vapor bros uses a metal element tho right?


Looks like im leaning towards the Vriptech VHW if it hits well.




I have no idea to be honest. I just know its gets me :vaped:

I need to look up on the Vapolution. I would like to vape inside of public places.


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Re: Recommend a vaporizer if you'd be so kind... [Re: Rocker232]
    #11661429 - 12/16/09 12:57 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

hehe, thats always a good thing. :vaped:


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Re: Recommend a vaporizer if you'd be so kind... [Re: Rocker232]
    #11661573 - 12/16/09 01:26 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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When i actually get monies to spend on a vape id get either da budda, or a vapor genie.


Da budda has a sale right now $189 for vape, whip, 3 screens, 3 year warranty, lifetime warranty on labor.



I dont like the idea of metal heating elements, like in the volcano, or vapor bros. Metal ions are a big no no.

Vriptech VHW sounds interesting since the element is encased in glass.


OP, do you want a bag vape? As far as i know only vapes available are either bag, whip or pipes.




A friend of mine has Da Buddha and he and I both agree that my Vapor Bros hits much better.





My friend says my Da-budda. Hits way better then his Vaper-bros....:tongue:


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Re: Recommend a vaporizer if you'd be so kind... [Re: ThirdEyeOpening]
    #11661607 - 12/16/09 01:33 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Vapolution was my first vap and it was fucking awesome. Broke the 1st one (well, my g/f did) so we got the special edition black one with a shit-ton of extras. Eventually we got a volcano from a friend at a hella good price ($80 and a copy of 1984). We still smoke on the regular (can't vape a joint, right?) but the volcano is great to have around.
Coolt hing about the Vapolution is that it comes with a car adapter so you can vap anywhere you have a car. Done it at drive-ins and just driving around little neighborhoods before. Also, if it breaks for any reason they'll fix it for $50 no questions asked.


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Re: Recommend a vaporizer if you'd be so kind... [Re: switchy85]
    #11661620 - 12/16/09 01:36 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Da Buddha has a better heating element than vapor bros.  I sold my volcano and got da buddha.  I dont know about those Vriptechs, but chubba really knows his vapes.


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Re: Recommend a vaporizer if you'd be so kind... [Re: publicenemy1]
    #11663325 - 12/16/09 06:37 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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The glass vapor genie is fucking SICK, if you don't mind inhaling a lighter flame, it's right up your alley.

With a bit of skill, MASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSIVE clouds that rival electric vaporizers.






This one is my favorite so far out of everything posted.  Well within my price range too.  Thanks for posting this.

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MisterMuscaria said:
Volcano is really the only option.
Save up your money and wait for it.




:rolleyes:

Fuck the volcano, for the half the price you can get the Extreme Vaporizer which is just as good if not better.

http://www.gotvape.com/store/extreme-vaporizer.php

Or roll with vaporwarez or vaporbros. why don't you like the plastic tubing on the whip?




This was taken from another site, but more or less sums up the reasons why I'd prefer to stay away from plastic.

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Plastics for Vaporization

Many herbal vaporizer manufacturers tend to use plastic parts for there vaporization tools. Plastic over time will emit lethal toxins in which we inhale. Plastic is not recommended in vaporization systems unless it is away from the heated stream of air. Many marijuana vaporizers including Vapir and Volcano both use plastic parts directly in the inhalation chamber. Weed Vaporizer manufacturers use plastic due to the cost when compared to borosilicate glass. A few glass vaporizer manufacturers use borosilicate glass which is more significant in cost, but allows a more health conscience design. Stay away from cheap vaporizer manufacturers with plastic chassis, over time they will warp and become less efficient while releasing toxins for you to inhale.




Yeah, yeah... I'm sure a lot of will call me paranoid.  I'm not trying to live in a bubble or anything. I know it's unreasonable to assume that one can avoid ALL toxins all together.  There's enough of them out there already, I just try to limit my exposure wherever possible and in this particular situation it's well within my power to do so.

Thanks for all the recommendations.


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Re: Recommend a vaporizer if you'd be so kind... [Re: two_rivers]
    #11666401 - 12/17/09 04:18 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Aside from the volcano, anyone know of a cheaper and still good bag vape?


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Re: Recommend a vaporizer if you'd be so kind... [Re: MisterMuscaria]
    #11666560 - 12/17/09 05:56 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Yes!  Arizer Extreme V-tower.  It is hands down the best vape for the money, and is a wicked whip vape, and also has bags, although it does not fill them as quickly as the Volcano.  I got mine for $220 CAD, but they sell online for more like $300.  Totally worth it, amazing investment.


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Re: Recommend a vaporizer if you'd be so kind... [Re: pwnasaurus]
    #11666633 - 12/17/09 06:57 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

you can sometimes find the extreme on ebay brand new in box for only 200usd.


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Re: Recommend a vaporizer if you'd be so kind... [Re: two_rivers]
    #11668252 - 12/17/09 02:59 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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This was taken from another site, but more or less sums up the reasons why I'd prefer to stay away from plastic.

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Plastics for Vaporization

Many herbal vaporizer manufacturers tend to use plastic parts for there vaporization tools. Plastic over time will emit lethal toxins in which we inhale. Plastic is not recommended in vaporization systems unless it is away from the heated stream of air. Many marijuana vaporizers including Vapir and Volcano both use plastic parts directly in the inhalation chamber. Weed Vaporizer manufacturers use plastic due to the cost when compared to borosilicate glass. A few glass vaporizer manufacturers use borosilicate glass which is more significant in cost, but allows a more health conscience design. Stay away from cheap vaporizer manufacturers with plastic chassis, over time they will warp and become less efficient while releasing toxins for you to inhale.




Yeah, yeah... I'm sure a lot of will call me paranoid.  I'm not trying to live in a bubble or anything. I know it's unreasonable to assume that one can avoid ALL toxins all together.  There's enough of them out there already, I just try to limit my exposure wherever possible and in this particular situation it's well within my power to do so.

Thanks for all the recommendations.




I don't think you have to worry about the plastic tubing on a whip.  I really don't think it's close enough to heat up to release toxins, especially if you have a longer glass whip at the end. I would say your a little paranoid but i don't blame you... better safe than sorry.  I've been using mine for something like 3 years now, never had a problem with the tubing or the vape itself, has been more than perfect for me.

I'm surprised that you would rather inhale lighter fluid from that vaporgenie...


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Re: Recommend a vaporizer if you'd be so kind... [Re: publicenemy1]
    #11668745 - 12/17/09 04:05 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Big fan of the herbalaire, but its $250.


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Re: Recommend a vaporizer if you'd be so kind... [Re: gornyhuy]
    #11668804 - 12/17/09 04:16 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

The Volcano is expensive because it's a long term investment... They are extraordinarily high quality, and really built to last.

Other brands may work, but as far as overall performance, ease of use, quality of vapor, consistency of vapor and just general awesomeness... there is a real reason it's $500+ and it's not bullshit at all.

As much as people WITHOUT a Volcano are tired of hearing "Volcano is best", people who do own a Volcano are sick of hearing "Volcanos are overpriced". :smirk:


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Re: Recommend a vaporizer if you'd be so kind... [Re: publicenemy1]
    #11669021 - 12/17/09 04:51 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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publicenemy1 said:
I'm surprised that you would rather inhale lighter fluid from that vaporgenie...




Yeah, I've read about that too... Here's a little something in case nobody has heard about it.

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ABSTRACT: Cytotoxicity of the rare earth metals cerium, lanthanum, and neodymium in vitro: comparisons with cadmium in a pulmonary macrophage primary culture system.
Palmer, R J : Butenhoff, J L : Stevens, J B
Environ-Res. 1987 Jun; 43(1): 142-56
The rare earth metals cerium, lanthanum, and neodymium each were evaluated in an in vitro cytotoxicity assay system using adult, male Sprague-Dawley rat pulmonary alveolar macrophages. Both the soluble chloride form of these metals and their insoluble metal oxides were studied. For comparison purposes, the cytotoxicities of cadmium chloride and cadmium oxide were also quantified in this test system. In general, regardless of the cytotoxicity parameter measured, i.e., cell viability, lysosomal enzyme leakage, or changes in cell surface morphology, cadmium was more toxic to these cells than were the rare earth metals. Of the rare earth metals studied, lanthanum chloride (lethal concentration LC50 = 52 microM), cerium chloride (LC50 = 29 microM), and neodymium oxide (LC50 = 101 microM) displayed significant cytotoxicity in this test system. Cadmium chloride exhibited an LC50 value of 28 microM, and cadmium oxide 15 microM. These findings suggest that rare earth metal fumes should be considered as cytotoxic to lung tissue and therefore potentially fibrogenic.




I guess most of it could be avoided by waiting until all of the flint stops sparking before you hold the flame to the pot, which is what I do now with my conventional pipe.

But when I pick up the glass vapor genie, I'm planning on using an organic hemp wick, coated with organic beeswax to vaporize.  It's only a couple bucks for 15 feet of the stuff.  It's just as cheap as a lighter and will last just as long, if not longer than a lighter and it produces a cleaner flame with no lighter fluid taste or toxic flint dust.


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Re: Recommend a vaporizer if you'd be so kind... [Re: RoosterCogburn]
    #11669195 - 12/17/09 05:21 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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The Volcano is expensive because it's a long term investment... They are extraordinarily high quality, and really built to last.

Other brands may work, but as far as overall performance, ease of use, quality of vapor, consistency of vapor and just general awesomeness... there is a real reason it's $500+ and it's not bullshit at all.

As much as people WITHOUT a Volcano are tired of hearing "Volcano is best", people who do own a Volcano are sick of hearing "Volcanos are overpriced". :smirk:




Volcano's are not the highest quality vaporizer by a long shot. The parts and design are nowhere near acceptable for the price. It's been pulled apart a bunch of times by technicians, engineers and vapor enthusiasts, it is nothing special in the slightest.

Lets pick this apart.

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but as far as overall performance




What's that even mean?

Quote:

ease of use




That's the only one you get, it fills a bag and they got a patent on their valve system.

Quote:

quality of vapor




No fucking way. The Vriptech VHW and Herborizer absolutely kicks it ass. So do nearly all direct draw vaporizers. The quality of vapor from a Volcano is terrible, it takes the tasty first hits and the disgusting last hits and mixes them together into an overall bland vapor.

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consistency of vapor




That's because it's got a fan, as pointed above, you get consistent vapor... consistently average. The quality bag vaporizers (such as Extreme/Herbalaire) produce equally consistent vapor. Restricted air vaporizers such as a Purple Days create a consistent vapor and just about every single direct draw vaporizer will produce a very consistent vapor after a week when the user gets comfortable.

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there is a real reason it's $500+ and it's not bullshit at all.




The reason it's $500+ it because people keep getting sucked in. They were the first big vaporizer on the market, they got into all the cannabis socities, they got into the media. The only reason to own a Volcano is becuase of it's patented valve system, it's not some magical piece of equipment.

Quote:

As much as people WITHOUT a Volcano are tired of hearing "Volcano is best", people who do own a Volcano are sick of hearing "Volcanos are overpriced". :smirk:




They are not the best vaporizer, there is no best vaporizer, it all depends on your usage. I believe the Volcano is the best bag vaporizer, the best party vaporizer and has an awesome bag/valve system and ease of use.

The Volcano is nowhere near the most effecient vaporizer, it gets it's ass handed to it by the majority of models and absolutely killed by vapes like the Purple Days (with a 0.025g bowl). The Volcano produces nowhere near the best tasting vapor, it's not even near the top, that is reserved for all glass/direct draw models.

The Volcano IS overpriced. If you want a bag vape and you vape in large groups/parties and you have the money... it's a great choice.

Otherwise, there's a whole range of vaporizers that can (depending on your style) outperform it for significantly less money.

/end massive Volcano rant.


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Re: Recommend a vaporizer if you'd be so kind... [Re: Chubba]
    #11669670 - 12/17/09 06:23 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I guess we will beg to differ... :shrug:

But I'm a proud Volcano owner, and always will be... in fact, it'll probably be the same exact one I bought so many years ago. It has hundreds and hundreds (maybe thousands?) of bags run through it, and still works exactly like it did on day one.

Other vapes I've seen seem cheaply made, and the vapor tasted weird... maybe there are new ones I haven't seen.


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Re: Recommend a vaporizer if you'd be so kind... [Re: RoosterCogburn]
    #11669838 - 12/17/09 06:41 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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I guess we will beg to differ... :shrug:

But I'm a proud Volcano owner




...and that's why.

You have to use all the high quality vapes, for an extended period of time, something a "Volcano user" never seems to do. They spend the large amount of cash up front, buy a single vaporizer and then bombard people with this propaganda for god knows what reason.

We could have so many more people vaporizing if the Volcano users didn't get up in their face with silly quotes like "Don't waste your money, the Volcano is the only vaporizer" or "I tried all vaporizers and nothing compares to the Volcano, either get the Volcano or get nothing), "The Volcano gets me 10x higher then any other vaporizer".

As you can see by this thread, people are coming around, there's a lot of awesome information and whole market of high quality vaporizers... people aren't going to be duped anymore thinking you need to spend $500+ to get an awesome vaporizer... you don't.

Nothing personal, I've just dealt with far too many gung-ho Volcano users. I've vaped plenty of bags, it's just  a heating element and a fan :shrug:, nothing more, nothing less... nothing magical about it.


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Re: Recommend a vaporizer if you'd be so kind... [Re: RoosterCogburn]
    #11670859 - 12/17/09 08:56 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I feel like if you shell out $500+ for the Volcano you're just going to trick yourself into thinking it's the best piece of equipment out there so you feel better about your purchase... no regrets right???

Of course it is a great piece of equipment but there are better vaporizers and for less money, just a simple fact. I guarantee that the Extreme Vaporizer is a much better vaporizer for half the money.


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Re: Recommend a vaporizer if you'd be so kind... [Re: publicenemy1]
    #11670943 - 12/17/09 09:09 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

V Tower Extreme all the way. Full glass intake, no metal parts whatsoever. All digital. Dont accept anything less.



cheap as fuck too. Dont waste your money on a Volcano.


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Re: Recommend a vaporizer if you'd be so kind... [Re: urbanwolf]
    #11670983 - 12/17/09 09:16 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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urbanwolf said:
V Tower Extreme all the way. Full glass intake, no metal parts whatsoever. All digital. Dont accept anything less.



cheap as fuck too. Dont waste your money on a Volcano.



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Re: Recommend a vaporizer if you'd be so kind... [Re: pwnasaurus]
    #11673030 - 12/18/09 03:44 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Im looking into the Herbalaire but that other bag vape is just fugly.


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Re: Recommend a vaporizer if you'd be so kind... [Re: publicenemy1]
    #11673061 - 12/18/09 03:58 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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I guarantee that the Extreme Vaporizer is a much better vaporizer for half the money.




Woah, hold on there.

I love Volcano bashing as much as the next guy (as shown by my previous posts), but neither the Extreme or Herbalaire (I don't count the Vapir, POS) can touch the Volcano in terms of bag blowing. The Volcano is indeed the king of bag vapes. Is it worth $500+ pricetag? I don't think so... but if you got the money, have lots of friends and want bags, why the hell not.

The Extreme is an awesome all round vape with a stack of options for a great price, it's far from being a better bag blower then the Volcano and it's whip function is not as good as a dedicated whip vaporizer. Is it a better value purchase then a Volcano? I definitely think so.

You have to weigh everything up, people have far too much bias when it comes to vaporizers.


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Re: Recommend a vaporizer if you'd be so kind... [Re: Chubba]
    #11673070 - 12/18/09 04:01 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

How do you feel about the Zephyr or the Herbalaire versus the Extreme and Volcano?


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Re: Recommend a vaporizer if you'd be so kind... [Re: MisterMuscaria]
    #11673605 - 12/18/09 09:41 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I bet Ferrari forums sound the same when a bunch of Honda Civic owners show up. :smirk:

I'm actually glad there are less expensive vapes that actually produce vapor as opposed to SMOKE... The problem I see mostly is people not knowing the difference. Every other vape I've tried (all whip style) produce smoke eventually when the cheap element gets too hot and scorches the herb. :shrug:

Some people don't understand the real difference between vapor and smoke, and just think their cheap wooden whip style vape is comparable... it's not, and half of what you are inhaling is smoke!

I guess some of these new ones are better (better elements), and good luck to those who go for them! Just be aware of the smoke or vapor issue.


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    #11673865 - 12/18/09 10:54 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: Recommend a vaporizer if you'd be so kind... [Re: dr_gonz]
    #11674020 - 12/18/09 11:34 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

With all these new fangled ones, I have no idea... I guess get the best you can afford. I would say the Volcano, but I'm afraid to be labeled as some Volcano fan boi. :lol:

I thought most of these newer ones were just cheap knockoffs of a Volcano style vape... you know, the same thing that happens with EVERY product or industry EVER. A good one comes out and is expensive, then a bunch of inferior look a likes come out. :shrug:

But Chubba and friends swear there are good ones cheap... buyer beware I guess!


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Re: Recommend a vaporizer if you'd be so kind... [Re: RoosterCogburn]
    #11674221 - 12/18/09 12:15 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

i use a box style whip vape, works great, but i've only found one model that vapes properly for me, it's called "purp vape" but there are tons of shitty knock-off like cogburn said, stay away from "easy vape" and remember, you get what you pay for, atleast with box vapes

purp vape = $120

easy vape = $65

simply put, the easy vape doesn't vape


edit: and the whips that come with any vape are shit

you need to buy a good one to smoke fat

http://www.gotvape.com/store/dual-chamber-vapor-whip.php
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Re: Recommend a vaporizer if you'd be so kind... [Re: tektonic]
    #11674424 - 12/18/09 01:06 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

If my whip ever breaks I'm going to get that one in the first link you posted.


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Re: Recommend a vaporizer if you'd be so kind... [Re: publicenemy1]
    #11674505 - 12/18/09 01:23 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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ThirdEyeOpening said:
When i actually get monies to spend on a vape id get either da budda, or a vapor genie.


Da budda has a sale right now $189 for vape, whip, 3 screens, 3 year warranty, lifetime warranty on labor.



I dont like the idea of metal heating elements, like in the volcano, or vapor bros. Metal ions are a big no no.

Vriptech VHW sounds interesting since the element is encased in glass.


OP, do you want a bag vape? As far as i know only vapes available are either bag, whip or pipes.



thats not a sale, it was the same last week, except last week it was $30 cheaper, coz they increased the price on december 15th.


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Re: Recommend a vaporizer if you'd be so kind... [Re: ShroomerRoss]
    #11674570 - 12/18/09 01:35 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)



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Re: Recommend a vaporizer if you'd be so kind... [Re: RoosterCogburn]
    #11676187 - 12/18/09 06:31 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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Some people don't understand the real difference between vapor and smoke, and just think their cheap wooden whip style vape is comparable... it's not, and half of what you are inhaling is smoke!

I guess some of these new ones are better (better elements), and good luck to those who go for them! Just be aware of the smoke or vapor issue.




Wow dude, you are completely in over your head.

The problem is that you seem to have very little knowledge of vaporizers, it's nothing personal but you're really spouting some bad misinformation.

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Every other vape I've tried (all whip style) produce smoke eventually when the cheap element gets too hot and scorches the herb. :shrug:




What vapes have you tried?

The following direct draw vapes will never produce smoke if used properly.

-Vaporbrothers
-Vaporwarez Vaporcannon
-V-tower
-Extreme
-Silver Surfer
-Da Buddha
-Purple Days
-Myztlezap
-Vriptech VHW
-Herborizer
-Vapolution

What you DO NOT want to buy, are chinese whip vapes. These are usually bought via ebay or headshops, shitty quality, lead parts, no warranty and range between $50 - $100.

eg.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Smoking-Herbal-Ceramic-Digital-Vaporizer-Vapor-W-Whip_W0QQitemZ260521563781QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item3ca84b9685

The absolute CHEAPEST whip vape someone should purchase is roughly ~$150 and that would include Vaporbrothers, Vaporcannon and DaBuddha.

ARGH, you make me angry Rooster, you are the perfect definition of a Volcano fanboy, your arguements are totally illogical. Stop trying to convince people they NEED a Volcano and everything else will suck, not the case.


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    #11676196 - 12/18/09 06:33 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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    #11676242 - 12/18/09 06:42 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

EDIT: Damn, Shroomery is being retarded.

VVVVVV


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    #11676250 - 12/18/09 06:43 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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can u get away with using a heat gun?




Hmmmm, probably, I wouldn't recommend it though.

I've a used a lot of heatgun setups, they are a pain in the ass to use and very loud, but ultimately they do produce nice clean/thick vapor. I've never used a setup that's been ghetto rigged to a Volcano valve system though, but other users have achieved that... bags are 10x better with the Volcano valve system, the bastards don't let anyone else use it.

Vriptech was the main heatgun company and they took their non-vape expertise and applied it to the VHW (vape specific) and the product is 100x superior.

If you already have some nice GG bongs, it is a good option.



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Re: Recommend a vaporizer if you'd be so kind... [Re: Chubba]
    #11676313 - 12/18/09 06:57 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

:lol:

YOU seem like the guy spreading misinformation... THICK vapor is most likely smoke, or mostly smoke. Vapor should be kinda light and airy and not thick at all. I bet you are the asshole who turns my Volcano up to 7 or 8 trying to get "thick heady vapor!"... :rolleyes:

Just because it's a vaporizer DOES NOT MEAN it only produces vapor... After ~375, it's SMOKE and you might as well be toking a regular bong.

PS - My vape has a greamlin. :finger:

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    #11676337 - 12/18/09 07:03 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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Vapor should be kinda light and airy and not thick at all


thats what ive always thought but i havent even got my vaporizer yet so i dont really know too much  :shrug:


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    #11676384 - 12/18/09 07:12 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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YOU seem like the guy spreading misinformation... THICK vapor is most likely smoke, or mostly smoke. Vapor should be kinda light and airy and not thick at all. I bet you are the asshole who turns my Volcano up to 7 or 8 trying to get "thick heady vapor!"... :rolleyes:

Just because it's a vaporizer DOES NOT MEAN it only produces vapor... After ~375, it's SMOKE and you might as well be toking a regular bong.

PS - My vape has a greamlin. :finger:




LOL, you are a tard, go away you vapor noob.

:facepalm:

I've vaped plenty of Volcano bags, the vapor is thin because it's got a large bowl, a large bowl and a large fan... that's how bag vaporizers work, the majority of your bag is air.

:facepalm:

There are a large amount of vaporizers that produce thick hits. My favourite the Purple Days produces the thickest hits of any vaporizer, why? No it's not the temp, it's because it has a tiny bowl and an extremely restricted airflow. The Vriptech VHW produces very thicks too. Direct draw vaporizers in general produce much thicker hits then Volcano or bag vaporizers due to the fact that a small bowl + lungs produces far less air then a big bowl + fan... do you not get it?

:facepalm:

God damn, I don't mind having arguements with someone that understands vaporizers, but you are totally clueless.


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Re: Recommend a vaporizer if you'd be so kind... [Re: dr_gonz]
    #11676386 - 12/18/09 07:12 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I'm sure there are new ones that are awesome... There is just a 100% fact that says good things produce hundreds of shitty knockoffs. For every one decent non-cano vape, there are 50 shitty Chinese knockoffs. :shrug:

But as much as I stand behind the Volcano, Chubba wants to shit all over it. I am not a fan boy. I am an owner, and the 100+ hard core, over 30 stoners that have smoked it have ALL said it was the best they've had.

Someone brought over a wooden box looking piece of shit, and it was horrible. Harsh, hot and nasty as shit. I've owned a Vapir one (old model), and it was also pretty shitty. I've tried some other thing my friend bought after trying the cano, and it was crappy... He was pissed and never uses it anymore. But, he uses the shit out of my Volcano!

Last time I'll say it... BUY WHAT YOU CAN AFFORD. There is a real reason some things cost more money than others.


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    #11676422 - 12/18/09 07:18 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

For every one decent non-cano vape, there are 50 shitty Chinese knockoffs. :shrug:




I have already said to avoid Chinese vapes, I hate them with a passion.

There are ~15 - 20 high quality vaporizers on the market, nearly all made in the USA (some in Cananda or UK). I never tell anyone to buy a vape willy nilly, I recommend them specific models that have be tried and tested by a large amount of experienced vaporists, they DO WORK, very well.

Quote:

But as much as I stand behind the Volcano, Chubba wants to shit all over it.




I don't even think you're even reading my posts? Go back through the thread.

Some things I have stated:

-The Volcano is the best bag vaporizer on the market, hands down
-The Volcano is the eaiest to use vaporizer on the market, the valve system is unsurpassed
-The Volcano is the best party vaporizer, no competition

The ONLY single downside I have mentioned is the price and the fact that vaporizers are a personal preference... not everyone is a big user, not everyone likes bag, not everyone likes plastic (the entire point of the thread, but you still don't understand that.. GET A VOLCANO!!!).

I'm being realistic and objective, you on the other hand are telling me I don't understand vaporizing which is a big insult.

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I've owned a Vapir one




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Re: Recommend a vaporizer if you'd be so kind... [Re: Chubba]
    #11676468 - 12/18/09 07:26 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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There are a large amount of vaporizers that produce thick hits. My favourite the Purple Days produces the thickest hits of any vaporizer, why? No it's not the temp, it's because it has a tiny bowl and an extremely restricted airflow



does it have anything to do with how hard you inhale, coz ive read that you can greatly increase the tempature of the air you pass over the herb if you were to inhale slower, so is there any way that it could be possible that the vapor from the whip vapes is more dense because some of it actually is smoke because of the increased tempature. im just curious?


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Re: Recommend a vaporizer if you'd be so kind... [Re: Chubba]
    #11676473 - 12/18/09 07:27 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

You do understand vaporizers, I give you that... but you are the aggressor here, who jumped ON ME back on page 2.

I never said "ONLY BUY A VOLCANO"... and I am far from a "fan boy" of ANYTHING. I am simply giving my opinion on being the long term owner of a Volcano... a VERY HAPPY and VERY SATISFIED owner. In fact, I am considering buying a second Volcano. :smirk:

I think you are taking this whole thing way too seriously... maybe you should run a Vape review website or something. :shrug:


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Re: Recommend a vaporizer if you'd be so kind... [Re: ShroomerRoss]
    #11676528 - 12/18/09 07:36 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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does it have anything to do with how hard you inhale, coz ive read that you can greatly increase the tempature of the air you pass over the herb if you were to inhale slower, so is there any way that it could be possible that the vapor from the whip vapes is more dense because some of it actually is smoke because of the increased tempature. im just curious?




Some people like a higher temp, some like a lower, different compounds are released at different temperatures, the Volcano isn't immune to this.

Once you learn to vaporize, you quickly learn the difference between vapor and smoke. It's not a smooth transition, the moment you go past, it's EXTREMELY hot and harsh when you scorch... nearly everyone will drop the whip, cough violently and instantly realise the mistake.

"Smoking" in a vape isn't the same as regular smoking, it's 100x more painful and nobody seeks to do it.


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    #11676557 - 12/18/09 07:41 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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but you are the aggressor here, who jumped ON ME back on page 2.




Any other vaporizer thread it would have been fine... but you specifically came into a thread asking specifically for a "no plastic" vaporizer and still recommended a Volcano, it just set off my "anti Volcano fanboy" switch.

The Purple Days is my favourite vaporizer, but I didn't recommend that because he wanted no plastic.

That's why I suggested the Vriptech VHW and the Glass Vapor Genie

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I think you are taking this whole thing way too seriously... maybe you should run a Vape review website or something. :shrug:




Vaporizing is serious business :vaped: perhaps if people realised they could get a high quality vaporizer for $150, more people would switch over.


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Re: Recommend a vaporizer if you'd be so kind... [Re: Chubba]
    #11676606 - 12/18/09 07:47 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Any info on the Verdamper.. Coming to the us...


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    #11676676 - 12/18/09 07:58 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Haven't used it personally, bit too big/strange/expensive for my liking :vaped:

Here's the Fuck Combustion thread discussing it.

http://fuckcombustion.com/viewtopic.php?id=224

Seems like all the serious vaporists still recommend the Vriptech VHW over it.


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    #11676750 - 12/18/09 08:09 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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Chubba said:
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but you are the aggressor here, who jumped ON ME back on page 2.




Any other vaporizer thread it would have been fine... but you specifically came into a thread asking specifically for a "no plastic" vaporizer and still recommended a Volcano, it just set off my "anti Volcano fanboy" switch.

The Purple Days is my favourite vaporizer, but I didn't recommend that because he wanted no plastic.

That's why I suggested the Vriptech VHW and the Glass Vapor Genie

Quote:

I think you are taking this whole thing way too seriously... maybe you should run a Vape review website or something. :shrug:




Vaporizing is serious business :vaped: perhaps if people realised they could get a high quality vaporizer for $150, more people would switch over.




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    #11677010 - 12/18/09 08:54 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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"Smoking" in a vape isn't the same as regular smoking, it's 100x more painful and nobody seeks to do it.


what would make it more painful than regular smoking, surely its less harsh than regular smoking coz most vaporizers dont get as hot as a flame from a lighter:confused:


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    #11677021 - 12/18/09 08:56 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

:what:

Its not burning it..


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    #11677072 - 12/18/09 09:06 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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what would make it more painful than regular smoking, surely its less harsh than regular smoking coz most vaporizers dont get as hot as a flame from a lighter:confused:




That's what you would think and I was very surprised... but if you combust in a vaporizer it's absolutely hell.

All of us can smoke big bongs and joints comfortably but if the temp goes too high in a vape and it lights up inside a wand... oh god, you will definitely know, it's horrible.

I have no good answer why it's more significantly more painful, it's an enigma.


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    #11677140 - 12/18/09 09:17 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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Brainiac said:
:what:

Its not burning it..



does if its too hot


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    #11684554 - 12/20/09 07:12 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

rooster how often do you change the bags on your volcano?:volcano:


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    #11684800 - 12/20/09 09:04 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Not as often as I should... we wait until the bag gets sorta sticky on the inside. Once it starts sticking too much, it's time for change. Maybe 75 fill ups? maybe more.

The actual Volcano bags are harder to find, and kinda pricy... but it's one long tube and you can custom size the bags. We always end up using "extra large" turkey bags, which are used to cook turkeys in the oven.

Much cheaper and easier to find, a la grocery store.


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    #11684908 - 12/20/09 09:53 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I like the Silver Surfer.
It's a fucking TANK.
It's been dropped knocked over by the dog....
Smacked by careless stoners.
Ever the glass on glass! Crack crack, many times.
And it's still going strong.


The tube is always fun to clean :happyweed::bigweed:
But I think the best thing is I've left it on all night many times,
upon awaking I shut it down and it still works great.

This talk of the element burning out and getting extra hot is BUNK IMHO.
What WILL happen is one day it will burn out, and I'll buy a new one, and install it, simple. I also may buy another vape. But I'm happy with this for now.
I've owned it for 3 years. It's proved itself in spades.
And again, cleaning the tube.....MMMM :volia: Magic!

That V tower look pretty cool though.

Anyhoo, I just popped in to say while I don't prefer the volcano, and found it odd
when a friend who's only tried my SSV, and used to bash it before he tried that!(SSV) :lol: would say he sure mines better.....than the Volcano, without even trying it.

As for his skepticism. I used to have, the "BC Vaporizer" there are others of the same kind. Basically a jar and a metal heating element. YUCK! Awful.

When I was in Vansterdam I made quite a few trips to the vapor longue....
and I've used quite a few vapes with friends.....

If someone think the volcano can't give thick decent tokes....
1.They didn't load it properly.
2. They are a 5 year old retarded girl and don't understand how the parts fit together.
3.Not chopped well/Wet even?(though retarded, I've seen this!)
4. They are expecting .2 grams of marijuana to be passed around 5 heads for an hour.


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Re: Recommend a vaporizer if you'd be so kind... [Re: Psilocybeingzz]
    #11684947 - 12/20/09 10:08 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

ive never even seen turkey bags over here. see the smaller ones sometimes but theyre pretty small like 20-30 cm. :shrug:
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The tube is always fun to clean



i seen a video tokinGLX made about cleaning SSV or the DBV and the wand hash he gets from it looks soo good, do you vape that hash or smoke it.


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Re: Recommend a vaporizer if you'd be so kind... [Re: ShroomerRoss]
    #11685128 - 12/20/09 11:17 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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ShroomerRoss said:
ive never even seen turkey bags over here.




Looks exactly like this. :smile:



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    #11685845 - 12/20/09 02:01 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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RoosterCogburn said:
Quote:

ShroomerRoss said:
ive never even seen turkey bags over here.




Looks exactly like this. :smile:





:hissyfit: looked online but dosnt look like any supermarkets stock them.:mad2: but the actual volcano bags are only £4 off the site i'll be buying the volcano from.


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Re: Recommend a vaporizer if you'd be so kind... [Re: two_rivers]
    #11685853 - 12/20/09 02:03 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I'm not buying another vaporizer until I can afford a Volcano!  :cool:












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    #11685915 - 12/20/09 02:14 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

how loud is it when filling up a bag, its not exactly the most inconspicuous sound, most people if they hear or see someone sucking on a bag would immediately jump to the conclusion that they're glue sniffing.


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Re: Recommend a vaporizer if you'd be so kind... [Re: ShroomerRoss]
    #11685956 - 12/20/09 02:19 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Check EBAY(sorry if naming the site breaks the rules. im still new.).
I saw some on there starting at only 45$.
I'm not sure how nice they are but they look fine to me.


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Re: Recommend a vaporizer if you'd be so kind... [Re: ShroomerRoss]
    #11686019 - 12/20/09 02:27 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

If you're asking me, I don't know.  I've never seen one in action.  I'm going to own one some day though.  :cool:











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Re: Recommend a vaporizer if you'd be so kind... [Re: ShroomerRoss]
    #11686038 - 12/20/09 02:31 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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ShroomerRoss said:
looked online but dosnt look like any supermarkets stock them.





http://www.bicwarehouse.com/reynolds-oven-bag-510.html

Here is some online store... may get killed on shipping to UK, but there must be somewhere that sells them online with better options.


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    #11686285 - 12/20/09 03:13 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

only ship inside the states:sad: but they definatley sell them on ebay and ship to UK so thats always an option. i just find it hard to belive that no one uses roasting bags in UK. seen old britsh cookery programs where theye've used big turkey bags but other than that have never seen the decent sized ones:shrug:


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    #11689391 - 12/21/09 12:39 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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ive never even seen turkey bags over here. see the smaller ones sometimes but theyre pretty small like 20-30 cm. :shrug:
Quote:

The tube is always fun to clean



i seen a video tokinGLX made about cleaning SSV or the DBV and the wand hash he gets from it looks soo good, do you vape that hash or smoke it.



I can really only smoke it.
I've never TRIED to vape. But I'd have to mix it with pot or something for a good consistency. What's really cool is just taking a one hit from the tube.
Say before bed or what not.

When I've been lazy and I can't find my pipe I've smoked through it.
Just barely, a toke here and there.
But, when I never smoke through it, at all, the tube fills with a golden goo that looks black in dim light, when it gets really thick.
But shine it against a bright light and of the sparkle does entice!
It's a thing of beauty. :levitate: Such great tokes.
It's like a really nice hash oil. Though if I don't smoke through it it's not overly oily, it's easier to handle.

I lost my little scrapping tool, but even when I go just below the bowl with a pin it's magic :voila:


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    #11690874 - 12/21/09 10:03 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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But, when I never smoke through it, at all, the tube fills with a golden goo that looks black in dim light, when it gets really thick.
But shine it against a bright light and of the sparkle does entice!



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    #13627465 - 12/13/10 06:59 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

I personally love the Vapir NO2! So does willie - check out the vapir.com homepage!


I just bought mine a few months ago and just got an email for 10% OFF - the coupon code is VAPIR10 for those of you who may be interested!



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    #13627489 - 12/13/10 07:05 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

I disliked all Vapir models I tried, they certainty don't live up to their pricetag and there's a dozen models around the same price that will kill their products.

I'm insulted that they STILL only offer a 90 day warranty on the Vapir One, that should be a clear sign of the quality of the product :shrug:


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    #13627515 - 12/13/10 07:09 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

Vapir vaporizers are generally horrible products.

The Iolite, Magic flight launch box, and the volcano( although a bit pricey) are very good vaporizers.


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    #19762044 - 03/29/14 12:13 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

If price is not an issue get a EVO Cloud.


All glass air path, excellent efficiency and top of the line performance.


I've heard of people getting the older model (Cloud Plus) on ebay for a lot less, though they won't have a warranty.



You can use it with different glass pieces too.



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For the Cadillac of Portable Vaporizers check out..

the Da Vinci Ascent , portable vaporizer..
Not just for loose plant material,
The Ascent also vaporizers waxes, resins, oils, keefes...



A Vaporizer suitable for James Bond


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    #19916011 - 04/29/14 11:31 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

if your looking for a portable vape, that can vaporize dried leaf material or oils, waxes and butters.. Look into the Pinnacle Pro. Its stealthy, pocket sized, and has an extended heating range of
370f - 470f

my favorite part of the pinnacle pro is the 14mm adapter that makes it so i can attach the pinnacle to any of my water pipes. They also have a hydratube available that cools and moistens the vapors.

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For the Cadillac of Portable Vaporizers check out..

the Da Vinci Ascent , portable vaporizer..
Not just for loose plant material,
The Ascent also vaporizers waxes, resins, oils, keefes...



A Vaporizer suitable for James Bond



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    #20064234 - 05/31/14 09:41 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

i prefer the indica vaporizer over the pax and the ascent. taste is amazing and the vapor is unusually smooth. the plastic parts look a bit cheap, though.
anyway, it works great!


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Quote:

Jake.Wizard27 said:
For the Cadillac of Portable Vaporizers check out..

the Da Vinci Ascent , portable vaporizer..
Not just for loose plant material,
The Ascent also vaporizers waxes, resins, oils, keefes...



A Vaporizer suitable for James Bond



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The ascent.... there are no words. :thumbup:



I third this... I have had mine for a number of months now and I love it more every day!


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Re: Recommend a vaporizer if you'd be so kind... [Re: batheinthefountain]
    #20064446 - 05/31/14 11:12 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Vaporbros






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Re: Recommend a vaporizer if you'd be so kind... [Re: Rocker232]
    #20770783 - 10/30/14 02:07 AM (6 years, 10 months ago)

i recommend the snoop dogg vape. i know a lot of people are saying its over hyped but i bought one here: http://www.smokazon.com/special-edition-microg-herbal-vaporizer-by-snoop-dogg its honestly great.


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