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Polky09
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Did I meet a demon while taking Ayahuasca?
#11658538 - 12/15/09 08:51 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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Edited by Polky09 (07/01/10 03:42 PM)
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Re: Did I meet a demon while taking Ayahuasca? [Re: Polky09]
#11658575 - 12/15/09 08:57 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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isn't the question of your topic subjective to you? how am i supposed to know what you saw?
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Re: Did I meet a demon while taking Ayahuasca? [Re: Polky09]
#11658621 - 12/15/09 09:05 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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No, you didn't. You were tripping.
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Re: Did I meet a demon while taking Ayahuasca? [Re: StickyRicky]
#11658667 - 12/15/09 09:14 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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StickyRicky said: No, you didn't. You were tripping.
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Istigkeit
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Re: Did I meet a demon while taking Ayahuasca? [Re: Polky09]
#11658743 - 12/15/09 09:28 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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You were tripping and you tapped into something real. Don't be scared. Be amazed. It's the point of psychedelics.
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Re: Did I meet a demon while taking Ayahuasca? [Re: theMallacht]
#11658779 - 12/15/09 09:33 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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-------------------- [quote]Oweyervishice said: [quote]Icelander said: What is at the bottom of it?[/quote] Death anxiety? :flirt:[/quote]
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showme
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Re: Did I meet a demon while taking Ayahuasca? [Re: nootropic]
#11658899 - 12/15/09 09:53 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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It sounds like a spirit did grab you, and since you haven't been able to keep calm or happy, it doesn't seem to be a good spirit. I would be wary. You have experienced the spirit realm firsthand. Two options: Disregard everything you saw/experienced as "tripping" and entirely created by YOURSELF (pff come on... different people even have the same types of experiences on the same entheogen... really, though? it was all them?) or, you can question what you did see and experience and judge it for yourself, using your own reason and intuition. What does it seem like to you?
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Re: Did I meet a demon while taking Ayahuasca? [Re: showme]
#11658949 - 12/15/09 10:02 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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Wow, that was a cool dream...
What was the come-down like?
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showme
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Re: Did I meet a demon while taking Ayahuasca? [Re: klimt]
#11658968 - 12/15/09 10:04 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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klimt said: Wow, that was a cool dream...
What was the come-down like?
Yeah, really.
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Re: Did I meet a demon while taking Ayahuasca? [Re: Istigkeit]
#11659015 - 12/15/09 10:11 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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I say go back and face whatever entity you met
I had a similar experience on 8.5 grams of shrooms not a similar trip, but I felt I had unfinished business in the spirit world. So I downed an 8th and had the most wonderful trip of my life and walked away feeling fantastic. You weren`t "just tripping," the brew was trying to tell you something, listen closer next time
go for it man
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Re: Did I meet a demon while taking Ayahuasca? [Re: Polky09]
#11659128 - 12/15/09 10:34 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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"Them Goblins and Demons...just look mean but they yellah. They got no cause to fight, they always give up and run with their arrrros chasing em home." -Wizards 1977
Take a break from substances for a month, get some excercise and eat healthy. Then have a nice mushroom trip and get some insight on what happened that night.
You'll be fine, don't over think it, your soul is stronger than you think. I believe you experienced a demon, but I do not believe one resides in you. These feelings will go away, it was just a traumatic experience and you should fully recover!
Hopefully we learn something from nights like that, I know I have.
You have my best wishes,
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Re: Did I meet a demon while taking Ayahuasca? [Re: sandman_130]
#11659170 - 12/15/09 10:40 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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Don't take such a high dose next time.
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sandman_130 said: Take a break from substances for a month, get some excercise and eat healthy. Then have a nice mushroom trip and get some insight on what happened that night.
This.
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Polky09
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Re: Did I meet a demon while taking Ayahuasca? [Re: deCypher]
#11659396 - 12/15/09 11:16 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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Edited by Polky09 (07/01/10 03:42 PM)
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Re: Did I meet a demon while taking Ayahuasca? [Re: Polky09]
#11659458 - 12/15/09 11:24 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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I think that finding the meaning to your experience should be of the utmost importance to yourself. I would recommend not dosing for a while, so that you can analyze it soberly, as sobriety is an important part of interpreting the journey. And if you do decide to dose, again, then enter with new questions. I would spend a lot of time writing about your experience, and how you feel about it. Reflect it to aspects of your sober life. Henry David Thoreau said "How will I know what I think until I write?" And I believe those words to carry a great deal of truth.
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Re: Did I meet a demon while taking Ayahuasca? [Re: Polky09]
#11662441 - 12/16/09 02:00 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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So what you're saying is that you had a bizarre dream rather than a waking DMT trip? If you were asleep then of course you didn't meet a demon. The ayahuasca may have affected your dream but a dream is completely different than a genuine DMT trip. As for meeting angels or demons while on DMT, I don't think that's the best way to interpret a Hyperspace trip. Many people refer to Hyperspace entities as aliens. In my opinion that's the most suitable label to categorize Hyperspace entities under.
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Polky09
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Re: Did I meet a demon while taking Ayahuasca? [Re: NlightNd1]
#11664581 - 12/16/09 07:33 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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Edited by Polky09 (07/01/10 03:42 PM)
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Re: Did I meet a demon while taking Ayahuasca? [Re: Polky09]
#11664677 - 12/16/09 07:46 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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That makes more sense. I thought your experience sounded more like a DMT trip than a dream but I was under the impression that you were asleep the whole time based on your first post. I now see where you mentioned that you had a dream before waking up tripping.
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Polky09 said: In this unexplained world, whats the difference between a bad alien that had complete power over you than a demon?
I view Hyperspace as a spiritual, sacred dimension. I don't think Hyperspace aliens are evil at all like demons are. I just think it's easy to have a misunderstanding and label them as evil because they frightened and disturbed you. They seem to possess psychic abilities, so if you get treated negatively there's probably a justified reason for it.
-------------------- Turn off your mind, relax and floatdown stream. It is not dying. Lay down all thought, surrender to the void. It is shining. Pink Floyd
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