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Offlinesuper_sci
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No Potency? * 1
    #1165430 - 12/23/02 04:11 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

Have been harvesting EQ's from the Hawks eye now for about a week and this is my second time taking them, the first time a few days ago with my girlfriend we took about 2.5 g's each only to get the giggles and whatnot a hour and a half later.

today using a buddy's scale I took 2.8 grams and 2 extra caps and a stem. Here I am 3.5 hrs later feeling the same as I did before I Started.

What gives? can it be how I am drying the shrooms? I just leave them out in my room until they dry out, if they dont get dry, i slice them open to allow the stem to dry. I used the PF tek to the T and I dont think it could be my method of growing because I wouldnt have mushrooms if that was the case.

Anyhoo, is there anything I can do to get higher potency out of my mushrooms? I have syringes from ralphster on the way, hopefully I wont have this problem.

I am picking them when the veil just opens or right before if I can catch it.


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OfflineAngry Mycologist
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Re: No Potency? [Re: super_sci]
    #1165459 - 12/23/02 04:24 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

Hmmmmmmmm....odd. First a few questions for you:

What ingredients do you use in your substrate?

How warm does your room get?

You may want to dry them at a faster rate with a fan, then possibly a dessiccant chamber.


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    #1165469 - 12/23/02 04:29 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)


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Re: No Potency? [Re: ]
    #1165475 - 12/23/02 04:31 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

Maybe a long drying time allowed much of the active chemicals to oxidise. Try using some sort of desiccant.

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Offlinesuper_sci
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Re: No Potency? [Re: TinMan]
    #1165505 - 12/23/02 04:44 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

Ill try using a brown paper bag and seeing if that makes a difference, My substrate contains of the PF Tek, thats exactlly what I used. Thanx for your replies

Also, my room is around 80deg F most of the time.

would using a Dessicant prove beneficial to potency on future flushes? Seems like nice lil expirement to me.


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Re: No Potency? [Re: super_sci]
    #1165578 - 12/23/02 05:16 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

Light should not effect potency during drying at all, it's heat that you need to worry about. While 80 degrees is not high enough to degrade the cube's alkaloids, I would advise that you try drying in a cooler place. Also, a dessiccant chamber should help you a lot.


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Re: No Potency? [Re: super_sci]
    #1165828 - 12/23/02 06:51 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

Well, youve probably got a tolerence...you should at least a week between trips. So id say thats what gives.


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Re: No Potency? [Re: PDU]
    #1165851 - 12/23/02 07:05 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

no you've got me worried about the potency of my shrooms. i grew eq's and brought a bunch home for me and my buddies. i really hope this doesn't happen to all of us.

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Re: No Potency? [Re: super_sci]
    #1166018 - 12/23/02 10:55 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

I think it's you, and not the shrooms (check my giving some to a friend). the curious thing to me is that both you and your girly are both affected. i think some people are just not as sensitive to the chemicals.

I'm the same - 3g does very little to me (though i know they're potent, as 1g knocked my girly sideways for 8h). try higher doses next time, allowing for the tolerance and the set-and-setting thing. presumably our brains will warp with lovely visuals if we take enough. :confused:

good luck! 


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Offlinesuper_sci
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Re: No Potency? [Re: shirley knott]
    #1166142 - 12/24/02 01:49 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

Hello, thanx for the replies, i dont think i have a tolerance seeing as how its my first and second time EVER doing mushrooms. The only other variables that I could think of other than drying the mushrooms out in the open could be that I am getting inaccurate weights when weighing, but i doubt that is the case also, the 2.8g dose I took last night consisted of about 8-9 whole shrooms.


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Re: No Potency? [Re: super_sci]
    #1166147 - 12/24/02 01:52 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

next time go with some lipa yais or some cambodians. i dont think youll be dissapointed, ive never tried eqs so i really couldnt tell you what was up with that

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Re: No Potency? [Re: MickyFinn]
    #1166158 - 12/24/02 02:02 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

Too Late, I have B+ hawians and some Puerto Ricans on the way. We will see how those turn out.


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Re: No Potency? [Re: super_sci]
    #1166195 - 12/24/02 02:25 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

2.8 grams of fresh mushrooms is nothing. mushrooms are 90% water, 10g of fresh mush would be about 1g of dry mush. if u want to trip off of fresh mush i suggest taking about 20-21g


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Re: No Potency? [Re: ajg2425]
    #1166212 - 12/24/02 02:33 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

They were 2.8g's of dry mushrooms, although they may have not been cracker dry as stated earlier, they were almost dry enough to snap when your crush them.


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Re: No Potency? [Re: super_sci]
    #1166227 - 12/24/02 02:39 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

dude found that growing fruits from cakes left a lot to be desired in the area of potency. Using the same cakes to spawn some dung was a night and day difference when it came to the how potent the fruits were.


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Re: No Potency? [Re: blazenaz]
    #1166300 - 12/24/02 03:14 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

sorry man, i've had the same mystery problem, if you look around the forum there's pretty much no answer for it.


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Re: No Potency? [Re: truekimbo2]
    #1166315 - 12/24/02 03:21 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

It seems that cakes are enough to get decent fruits from but to get the most for you money, bulk is the way to go.


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Re: No Potency? [Re: super_sci]
    #1166354 - 12/24/02 03:43 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: No Potency? [Re: ralphster44]
    #1166376 - 12/24/02 03:55 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

hey Ralph would the same formula give decent potency to any thai strains?

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Re: No Potency? [Re: MickyFinn]
    #1166431 - 12/24/02 04:15 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

I just had some Eq's I used Rye Berries spawn into horse dung without casing it and man the fruiting is huge and 3g kick me in the ass. Can't wait till my KS, Cambo's are ready to spawn. I did the cakes for awhile and all I got was body buzz then I started using Dung and man they are way more potent.

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Re: No Potency? [Re: MickyFinn]
    #1166437 - 12/24/02 04:16 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

EQs usually are one of the more potent strains. I think that there are way too many factors to consider while trying to relate to potency. What temps were used when cultivating? and Humidity? I've heard that high temps (85ish) and high humidity are key factors.

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Re: No Potency? [Re: MickyFinn]
    #1166442 - 12/24/02 04:17 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: No Potency? [Re: ]
    #1166471 - 12/24/02 04:27 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: No Potency? [Re: Angry Mycologist]
    #1166495 - 12/24/02 04:39 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

Dessiccant chamber????Explain Please!


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Re: No Potency? [Re: Sillycybe]
    #1166530 - 12/24/02 04:56 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

Man ralphster always has some kick ass strains. I'm stuck with GT,KS,PR,TC,Cambos,TAZ, I think I better start collecting some new strains for my collection.

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Re: No Potency? [Re: ]
    #1166764 - 12/24/02 06:27 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

Sounds like the general consensus is: BRF Cakes suck?


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Re: No Potency? [Re: ralphster44]
    #1166790 - 12/24/02 06:32 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

I really appreciate the gesture Ralph, tell you what to keep an unbiased opinion, send me any of the prints of your choice, ill start a log when i recieve the print.  thanks again!  and ill kick the prints back of course  :wink:

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Re: No Potency? [Re: MickyFinn]
    #1166911 - 12/24/02 07:15 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

Ok, well that just throws a monkey wrench in my whole process, if brf cakes suck, I can expect similar potency issues from the spores I erceive from ralphster in a few days? IF that is the case, hy have BRF cakes been so popular, is it just the ease of use?

Will switching to grain eliminate my problem or just compound my problem by adding water content to the list of possible fuck-ups I can make?


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Re: No Potency? [Re: super_sci]
    #1166928 - 12/24/02 07:21 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

brf works, its easier to prepare and a lot of people use it because some people dont have pcs, prepare the brf cakes and then spawn them with straw and manure.  you should get the desired effects your looking for.  grains gives your more innoculation points the crumbled brf :wink: 

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Re: No Potency? [Re: Sillycybe]
    #1166945 - 12/24/02 07:28 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

Dessicant chamber = Drying chamber. You seal the mushroom in an airtight container with Damp Rid or something similar on the bottom.




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Re: No Potency? [Re: KillerClown]
    #1170906 - 12/26/02 05:55 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

Thank you. For the explaination, Seems like it would do the trick.


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