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Invisiblei am e goldstein
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    #1165020 - 12/23/02 12:20 PM (21 years, 6 months ago)



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Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past.
3DSHROOMS is either clueless or the worlds biggest SCUMBAG
I lie and exagerate constantly... God Bless America!

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InvisibleMushMushi
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Re: Flammulina Velutipes Grow log [Re: i am e goldstein]
    #1165148 - 12/23/02 01:26 PM (21 years, 6 months ago)

Really nice!

Here is what I've got:
3grain (rye) jars inoculated with anno's enoki


:smile:
Jars were inoculated the 6th december and placed into an incubator at 20-24 degrees celsius.
I'm looking for sawdust now  :grin: 

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    #1165207 - 12/23/02 01:57 PM (21 years, 6 months ago)



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Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past.
3DSHROOMS is either clueless or the worlds biggest SCUMBAG
I lie and exagerate constantly... God Bless America!

Edited by i am e goldstein (12/23/02 02:30 PM)

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Re: Flammulina Velutipes Grow log [Re: i am e goldstein]
    #1165355 - 12/23/02 03:40 PM (21 years, 6 months ago)

Nice work chaps.

Might want to swtich from dH2O to mineral water...more yummy nutrients in mineral water (I'm assuming you really do mean dH2O).

-psy


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    #1165453 - 12/23/02 04:21 PM (21 years, 6 months ago)



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Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past.
3DSHROOMS is either clueless or the worlds biggest SCUMBAG
I lie and exagerate constantly... God Bless America!

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Invisiblepsyconaut
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Re: Flammulina Velutipes Grow log [Re: i am e goldstein]
    #1165485 - 12/23/02 04:35 PM (21 years, 6 months ago)

Using water with trace elements probably only marginally helps at best....but sometimes we need every little helping hand we can get :wink:

Nice write-up, BTW. Do you have a chemistry background?

-psy



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Re: Flammulina Velutipes Grow log [Re: i am e goldstein]
    #1165866 - 12/23/02 07:19 PM (21 years, 6 months ago)

It looks very good!!!

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But I want to point out that when I decided to give each plate a breath of fresh air once each day the peroxidated plates began to take off, eventually catching up to the non treated plates. I began doing this about 10 days after I had started the second batch of plates?. I?m not quite sure why this happened?





That's interesting. The peroxidated plates should have more oxygen inside so they shouldn't benefit from aeration. Maybe the events were not related. H2O2 was probably destroyed at that time and mycellium would take off anyway.

How do you wrap your plates? I had good results with Micropore medical tape that is supposed to allow breathing while keeping the contaminants out.

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Re: Flammulina Velutipes Grow log [Re: i am e goldstein]
    #1165909 - 12/23/02 08:26 PM (21 years, 6 months ago)

Nicely detailed log i am e goldstein.    This should be very interesting to watch develop.  I can't wait to get my spores started.  :smile: 


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Invisiblei am e goldstein
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    #1166039 - 12/23/02 11:44 PM (21 years, 6 months ago)



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3DSHROOMS is either clueless or the worlds biggest SCUMBAG
I lie and exagerate constantly... God Bless America!

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Invisiblei am e goldstein
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    #1170741 - 12/26/02 03:29 AM (21 years, 6 months ago)



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Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past.
3DSHROOMS is either clueless or the worlds biggest SCUMBAG
I lie and exagerate constantly... God Bless America!

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InvisibleMushMushi
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Re: Flammulina Velutipes Grow log [Re: i am e goldstein]
    #1171196 - 12/26/02 09:19 AM (21 years, 6 months ago)

:laugh:I didn't shake the jars at all... Someone told me it was a very bad habit and I believe him  :grin:


A have a question for you!
I have a petri dish,  almost a month old, and the agar turned brown, dark brown... Did you had something similar? 

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Re: Flammulina Velutipes Grow log [Re: i am e goldstein]
    #1171219 - 12/26/02 09:37 AM (21 years, 6 months ago)

  well it seems like everything is proceeding quite well.  :smile:  I am quite eager to see how these will do for you.  One thing that I had not noticed was under what types of conditions are you going to attempt to fruit these cultures?  Indoor, outdoor?  Since they do require relatively brisk temperatures for fruiiting if you are going to try them indoors I would love to hear about a potential set-up. 
  H2O2 degrades very rapidly with exposure to light, heat (above aprox. 50-60 C) and organic material.  It doesn't seem too far-fetched that there could be too much oxygen present (even in the form of regular O2) to inhibit growth at this stage, but I am not expert so....  *shrug*
  Before I start work with these I am going to pic up a decent digi-cam so if you have any suggestions let me know.  I already got some ideas from Joshua on a few models. 
  good luck and I await with abated breath the next installment.  :wink: 


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Re: Flammulina Velutipes Grow log [Re: Alkaloids]
    #1171484 - 12/26/02 12:27 PM (21 years, 6 months ago)

Also remember that H2O2 inhibits mycelium growth at anything other than very low concentrations! But because mycelium generally gets a better start than contaminants, that's where selection and dominance happens.

-psy


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Re: Flammulina Velutipes Grow log [Re: psyconaut]
    #1171551 - 12/26/02 01:20 PM (21 years, 6 months ago)

duh.. thanks.. wasn't even thinking.  :smile: 


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Invisiblei am e goldstein
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    #1171630 - 12/26/02 02:28 PM (21 years, 6 months ago)



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Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past.
3DSHROOMS is either clueless or the worlds biggest SCUMBAG
I lie and exagerate constantly... God Bless America!

Edited by i am e goldstein (12/27/02 12:02 AM)

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Re: Flammulina Velutipes Grow log [Re: i am e goldstein]
    #1172110 - 12/26/02 04:53 PM (21 years, 6 months ago)

I vote that you try dog food, Kellogg's bran flakes, and tea leaves.

-psy


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Re: Flammulina Velutipes Grow log [Re: i am e goldstein]
    #1180900 - 12/30/02 11:03 PM (21 years, 6 months ago)

It's been a week....us, the peasents, demand an update! :wink:

-psy


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    #1180906 - 12/30/02 11:38 PM (21 years, 6 months ago)



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Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past.
3DSHROOMS is either clueless or the worlds biggest SCUMBAG
I lie and exagerate constantly... God Bless America!

Edited by i am e goldstein (12/31/02 12:14 AM)

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Invisiblepsyconaut
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Re: Flammulina Velutipes Grow log [Re: i am e goldstein]
    #1181725 - 12/31/02 10:02 AM (21 years, 6 months ago)

Bran is quite wildly used in fortified substrates...

I've heard some interesting things about tea and dog food....but never tried them myself (tried coffee grounds; didn't work out too well).

Don't let the mushroom ratings bother you. I only have a four mushroom rating, and I'm only slightly less sexy than Anno :wink:

Keep posting.

-psy


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Re: Flammulina Velutipes Grow log [Re: i am e goldstein]
    #1181740 - 12/31/02 10:23 AM (21 years, 6 months ago)

Great thread so far, dont give up! Yes I think there are at least a few around here interested in edibles. Keep the updates comming! I just recieved my enoki spores from the man today.

Best of luck. AWG

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