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I AM SWIM
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Ipomoea tricolor --blue stars??!--
#11631771 - 12/11/09 05:57 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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anyone familiar with the "Blue stars" morning glory seeds?
I accidentally got them instead of heavenly blues
anyway, i was wondering if they are safe to do thangs with?
Ipomoea tricolor are mostly called 'tlitliltzin' the the Nahuatl word for "black"
which i assume is because, like the heavenly blues, the seeds appear black.
but these "blue stars" are white, or more beige, but anyway.
I can't find any information about them, and am wondering if they are safe. I know the alkoloids vary slightly from different species, from flying saucers to heavenly blues etc.
but does anyone know anything about the blue stars???
i got them from bouncing bear, and, i got heavenly blues from them before, but now they don't sell them anymore!
anyway, has anyone had any experience with these seeds?
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Re: Ipomoea tricolor --blue stars??!-- [Re: I AM SWIM]
#11631778 - 12/11/09 05:58 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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i planted them once but the summer was not nice to them. other than that no experience man.
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Re: Ipomoea tricolor --blue stars??!-- [Re: ferrel_human]
#11631789 - 12/11/09 06:01 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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hopefully they dont have that coating on them but if u bought em from BBB then u should be fine
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I AM SWIM
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Re: Ipomoea tricolor --blue stars??!-- [Re: mellowyellow]
#11631802 - 12/11/09 06:04 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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yeah, they are untreated, that is the reason i go to BBB, but
i was expecting heavenly blues
and the seeds are black, but i get these beige seeds that look the same, but beige (or bleached)
and they are called "Blue star morning glory"
and then i go back to BBB, and i can't find any heavenly blues for the life of me.
feels bad man
but at least i got some san pedros, so that feels good man
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Re: Ipomoea tricolor --blue stars??!-- [Re: I AM SWIM]
#11633093 - 12/11/09 09:36 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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They are really potent seeds if that's what you are asking
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I AM SWIM
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Re: Ipomoea tricolor --blue stars??!-- [Re: KBG1977]
#11637046 - 12/12/09 02:30 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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KBG1977 said: They are really potent seeds if that's what you are asking;)
yeah, i was just wondering because
i know heavenly blues are supposedly (the more potent of the seeds) [but that is comparing heavenly blues to flying saucers)
i never tried flying saucers so i duno
i've only worked with heavenly blues,
but these blue stars are beige, which i guess is normal,
so i guess hopefully they are just as safe
SWIM really likes to do at least 20grams CWE with heavenly blues, so
if SWIM dies from doing 20grams of blue stars,
it isn't in vain, it's for science at the very least...
but SWIM doesn't really wanna die yet, he wants to trip
has anyone had ANY experience with these blue stars?
grrr it makes me cuz i was expecting black seeds, and i get the exact opposite, and it's like
maybe its because swim has feels bad man with santa hat on, for a feels bad man christmas
feels duno man.
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I AM SWIM
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Re: Ipomoea tricolor --blue stars??!-- [Re: I AM SWIM]
#11637098 - 12/12/09 02:40 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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does anyone know if
blue stars are Ipomoea tricolor?
because i know heavenly blues are but
i checked wikipedia for Ipomoea tricolor
and it came up with
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ipomoea_tricolor
"Horticulture Numerous cultivars of I. tricolor with different flower colours have been selected for use as ornamental plants; widely-grown examples include 'Blue Star', 'Flying Saucers', 'Heavenly Blue', 'Heavenly Blue Improved', 'Pearly Gates', 'Rainbow Flash', 'Summer Skies' and 'Wedding Bells'. Some people consider this plant to be an invasive weed due to its fast rate of growth and its prodigious seed production."
but isn't it the pearly gates or flying saucers that are not Ipomoea tricolor, but Ipomoea violacea instead?
what does this mean about the blue stars?
if they are tricolors, then SWIM will do it, but if they are not, then it's quite questionable...
does anyone know what these blue stars are?
I cant find ANYYYY information about em
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Re: Ipomoea tricolor --blue stars??!-- [Re: I AM SWIM]
#11637224 - 12/12/09 03:05 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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I've done them all,and they are really potent.I imagine it would be hard to overdose on morning glory seeds unless you ate a few pounds worth.
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I AM SWIM
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Re: Ipomoea tricolor --blue stars??!-- [Re: KBG1977]
#11637234 - 12/12/09 03:08 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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lol yeah, alright, ill just do a regular 20g CWE.
thanks for sharing your thoughts, i wouldn't even bother trying without them.
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Re: Ipomoea tricolor --blue stars??!-- [Re: I AM SWIM]
#11637323 - 12/12/09 03:24 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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let us know how it goes
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Re: Ipomoea tricolor --blue stars??!-- [Re: KBG1977]
#11637439 - 12/12/09 03:43 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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the main problem that would happen if you ate too much is the fact that LSA is a potent vasoconstrictor and could possibly cause very bad side effects
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I AM SWIM
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Re: Ipomoea tricolor --blue stars??!-- [Re: jds]
#11637714 - 12/12/09 04:25 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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well swim did the thang, so swim will report back when the thang does the thang
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Re: Ipomoea tricolor --blue stars??!-- [Re: I AM SWIM]
#11638132 - 12/12/09 05:36 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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I AM SWIM
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Re: Ipomoea tricolor --blue stars??!-- [Re: I AM SWIM]
#11638240 - 12/12/09 06:02 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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starting to feel better
reading through this made my day
http://taimapedia.420chan.org/wiki/Cannabis
im actually starting to feel
just a little nausea, o well, if i throw up, that just means ill feel even more
and yeah, their doin' there thangs, feels man
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Re: Ipomoea tricolor --blue stars??!-- [Re: I AM SWIM]
#11638871 - 12/12/09 07:58 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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Three bumps in a row man.
Tone it down a bit K?
Just edit your old post, incessant bumping just knocks other peoples questions further down the list.
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Re: Ipomoea tricolor --blue stars??!-- [Re: Cactusdan]
#11641070 - 12/13/09 06:14 AM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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before doing MBWR or MG I find it beneficial to grate some ginger into a cup of tea and drink that. Ginger has awesome anti nausea properties.
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Re: Ipomoea tricolor --blue stars??!-- [Re: Fleadh]
#11641093 - 12/13/09 06:25 AM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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I know this sounds weird but i have taken the same seed packet and planted seeds in different parts of the yard and get different results.
Some end up purple and white ..3 inch diameter flower. And some will turn out blue 5inch diameter flower. They also have different seed pods which is weird.
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I AM SWIM
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Re: Ipomoea tricolor --blue stars??!-- [Re: Tomandjerry58]
#11641401 - 12/13/09 08:41 AM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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Cactusdan said: Three bumps in a row man.
Tone it down a bit K?
Just edit your old post, incessant bumping just knocks other peoples questions further down the list.
Kinda ironic that you say that, only because your post would have bumped it to the top.
But, I really don't care
Really, people just need to stop worrying about whats on page one, and read on to the next page. :-\
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Fleadh said: before doing MBWR or MG I find it beneficial to grate some ginger into a cup of tea and drink that. Ginger has awesome anti nausea properties.
Ah, i forgot about good old ginger, I should have had some of that. Good suggestion.
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preschooler said: I know this sounds weird but i have taken the same seed packet and planted seeds in different parts of the yard and get different results.
Some end up purple and white ..3 inch diameter flower. And some will turn out blue 5inch diameter flower. They also have different seed pods which is weird.
That sounds weird, maybe some seeds got mixed up in the process in packaging. I don't know much about growing them
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Re: Ipomoea tricolor --blue stars??!-- [Re: I AM SWIM]
#11642938 - 12/13/09 01:51 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ugh. I have such mixed feelings about LSA. Like... every time I try, I get nauseous and then frozen in hell for an hour or two, then I either vomit or it subsides, and everything goes all visual until I go into hyper-consciousness mode.
Anyway, 'Blue Star' is just a cultivar of I. tricolor. Which means its the same species, and in all likelihood, contains a very similar if not identical set of alkaloids to I. tricolor 'Clark's Heavenly Blue.' Keep in mind, Morning Glories have been bred only for their flowers and vigor, so no one (mainstream at least) has really tampered with the alkaloid content. The suggestion that I. tricolor 'Flying Saucers' has higher potency is, imo, probably bullshit perpetuated by the fact that the cultivar happens to have a cool name, suggestive of activity. I bet if you looked at it, all the commercial cultivars would have a very similar alkaloid set and concentration.
I'd actually really like to see someone examine (scientifically of course) alkaloid contents in all of Ipomoea. For instance, I'd like to know just how active I. alba is.
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Re: Ipomoea tricolor --blue stars??!-- [Re: Horticulture]
#11644498 - 12/13/09 06:37 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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Not worth it to me
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