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Re: Mazatapec Questions [Re: anonjon]
    #11675267 - 12/18/09 01:39 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Just finished another inspection and everything is looking well. Oner cake in particular is really taking off. I have a question about lighting. I am currently using a small 15 watt soft white florescent, from a 10 gallon aquarium. I also have one of those old school x-ray boxes for viewing film negatives. It has 4 45 watt florescent tubes in it. 2 are not working so its more like 90 watts. Which light should I use?

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Re: Mazatapec Questions [Re: AmoJuanKenobi]
    #11675357 - 12/18/09 01:53 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Use florescent light, daylight variety.



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Re: Mazatapec Questions [Re: m00nshine]
    #11675970 - 12/18/09 03:49 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

I just noticed your tag line "Beware B+" I heard that was a good strain for newbies and was thinking of trying that one next.

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Re: Mazatapec Questions [Re: AmoJuanKenobi]
    #11676139 - 12/18/09 04:20 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

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I just noticed your tag line "Beware B+" I heard that was a good strain for newbies and was thinking of trying that one next.




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Re: Mazatapec Questions [Re: anonjon]
    #11676263 - 12/18/09 04:45 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

we got the same stuff, man.
I got a syringe of Mazzies from Sporeworks as well, put them in 5 BRF cakes, they colonized a little slower than the 7 jars i put Ecuador in.
They have been in the fruiting chamber since Dec, 5th. I am JUST now seeing my first pin on my mazzie cakes. like yesterday. (the EQs are popping up like crazy)
I hear mazzies like it a little bit warmer (79-83degrees) but i dont think it will make much of a difference. since this is my first grow, i dont know much, but i think the best thing to do is wait. i got antsy and dunked the first mazzie cake that was put in the chamber, as it was submersed, one of the other mazzies started pinning. so just keep doing what you're doing.
that 15 watt aquarium light might be drying out the air in your chamber  tho. pick up your cakes, if they seem light than they are dry.
make sure you have a nice, moist layer of verm on top of each cake to keep them hydrated.
but yeah, wait another week before you start to worry. 21 days is your window. after that start the panic... but panic in an orderly fashion


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Re: Mazatapec Questions [Re: AmoJuanKenobi]
    #11678878 - 12/19/09 01:02 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

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I just noticed your tag line "Beware B+" I heard that was a good strain for newbies and was thinking of trying that one next.




Don't do it to yourself... Get something else.


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Re: Mazatapec Questions [Re: m00nshine]
    #11679637 - 12/19/09 09:09 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks for your insight deeslebones. I only re-dunked two of the cakes. It was when I picked up the third cake the I saw all my pins and decided to calm down on re-dunking. All of my cakes seems so be taking their time except for one that is really taking off. I noticed the the 2 cakes that did re-dunk have what seem to be a different development pattern. For example, on most of the single soaked cakes, pins form in these bulges resembling a bulb with the caps somewhat inside the bulb. The body being mostly composed of mycelium. The 2 cakes that were redunked seemed to have put more energy into cap production. Big fat browninsh red caps with a small mycelium body underneath.Their is a definative blue ring along the veils of the two redunked cakes.Bodies are staying squat with huge caps. Almost look like a king baletus or something.
  As far as humidity goes. I have been pretty on top of enviroment control. Were you implying that if the light is right above the tank it may be drying the cakes out? If humidity has been maintained do you still see that as possible problem? I am going to go look at ultrasonic humidifiers later today. Any recommendations? Are they worth the climate control or is my spray bottle all I really need?
  I do have a little extra verm on top of the cakes. soon as the mycelium has a hold and it wont easily drop off, I have been flipping my cakes on their side.Although most of the fruits start at the bottom of the cake no matter how I flip em.
  My first batch is completely birthed. All in all I only lost 2 cakes to contamination. Safe to to say I am intrigued and inspired. I want to play some more. I just got done looking at ralphsters spores. I am curious about the special "Syzygy, SG30, Tapalpa, Mexi Cube, Creeper, and EQ". I have only found info on the Tapalpa and EQ. Any info on these other strains?

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Re: Mazatapec Questions [Re: AmoJuanKenobi]
    #11683519 - 12/19/09 09:59 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Have a question regarding growth. I have a single cake that is doing significantly better than the others. It has a cluster of fruits apporoximately 1.5 to 2 inches tall with caps the about the size of  nickel. The veils just tore today. I have been reading that fruits should be harvested before cap opens for potency, but I was looking to try my hand at prints.
  So what causes the veil to break? Is a print from a small cap as viable as a large one. At what point should I cut the fruit and try to print.

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Re: Mazatapec Questions [Re: AmoJuanKenobi]
    #11683555 - 12/19/09 10:05 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

The veil breaks when the mushrooms is near maturation. I would let the caps flatten out a bit then harvest. Small prints are still as good as larger one. Print right after the veil breaks

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Re: Mazatapec Questions [Re: Shea25]
    #11683618 - 12/19/09 10:18 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

So does that mean that once the cap breaks open one should not expect much more growth? So I should go ahead and harvest these even though they are fairly small? If I do go ahead and harvest how long before I re dunk to start a new flush?

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Re: Mazatapec Questions [Re: AmoJuanKenobi]
    #11683663 - 12/19/09 10:26 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

I find they still grow quite a bit more. Wait 1 more day then pick em. Right after you pick them just rinse the cake off and dunk it for 24 hours then rinse it off gain and put back into the FC

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Re: Mazatapec Questions [Re: Shea25]
    #11684935 - 12/20/09 08:04 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

I just had my first try at spore printing. I used the jars I originally inoculated my cakes in. Each jar was was wiped with 99% isopropyl alcohol, inside the lids as well. I then wiped a baby pin down and pair of mustache scissors. A small piece of foil was placed on the bottom of each jar. I then placed the baby pin down into the cap just enough to hold it. I cut the fruit once as close to the cake as I could to free it, then flipped it over and cut the stem off as close to the cap as possible. Dropped cap onto foil and sealed it shut. Each cap was about the size of a nickel and I got 4 caps. How long should I let spores drop before I try and make a syringe?
  Also I have some cluster growth. Multiple fruits growing from one center. Is it safe to cut the fruits that have capped away from the cluster or should I wait for all of them in the group to cap out?
  I ate the stems as soon as the caps were free. The taste was sweet compared to dried. I am really excited again! Thanks for the input I really appreciate it.

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Re: Mazatapec Questions [Re: AmoJuanKenobi]
    #11685229 - 12/20/09 09:51 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Its only been about 2 hrs since I cut those caps and I just noticed that they have all turned dark. Such a dark blue its almost black. Is it just that they were small to begin with (nickel size), or could it be the alcohol on the baby pin I used to hold the cap while cutting stem? How will this affect the print? I saw a post where someone was misting their fruits with an alcohol water mix and it was turning all the fruits dark. Thats why I am wondering about the alcohol. Since they are dark should I abort the print? Should I eat the fruit (its only 2 hrs off cake)?

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Re: Mazatapec Questions [Re: AmoJuanKenobi]
    #11685387 - 12/20/09 10:32 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

I find alcohol will turn your fruits very dark because its harmful to the actives , its will oxidize them faster because of evaporation or something, I dont know for sure, but whenever im handling fruits with freshly wiped alcohol sterile gloves the fruits will turn deep blue.


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Re: Mazatapec Questions [Re: Pscientist]
    #11685600 - 12/20/09 11:15 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

And how will this affect print?

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Re: Mazatapec Questions [Re: AmoJuanKenobi]
    #11685604 - 12/20/09 11:16 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

It wont..


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Re: Mazatapec Questions [Re: AmoJuanKenobi]
    #11685774 - 12/20/09 11:48 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

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AmoJuanKenobi said:Should I eat the fruit (its only 2 hrs off cake)?




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Re: Mazatapec Questions [Re: anonjon]
    #11687105 - 12/20/09 03:41 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

I just purchased 2 6500k 100 lights. Should I put one in a lamp fixture and bring close the the fruiting chamber and the other in the ceiling socket, or both in the socket, or both in lamps?
  I also looked at some humidifiers. Obviously budget is an issue. I looked at a cheap one $25.00 but it did not have a humidity control. If that things just runs 24/7 in the chamber is over humidifying the chamber an issue (condensation is what I am imagining)?

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Re: Mazatapec Questions [Re: AmoJuanKenobi]
    #11687134 - 12/20/09 03:47 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

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  I also looked at some humidifiers. Obviously budget is an issue. I looked at a cheap one $25.00 but it did not have a humidity control. If that things just runs 24/7 in the chamber is over humidifying the chamber an issue (condensation is what I am imagining)?




Just run it while your home, so you can manually turn it on and off when needed. If you could get a few extra dollars together, a timer would work great. Idk about running it for a full 24/7 .


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Re: Mazatapec Questions [Re: AmoJuanKenobi]
    #11690737 - 12/21/09 06:25 AM (15 years, 30 days ago)

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I just purchased 2 6500k 100 lights. Should I put one in a lamp fixture and bring close the the fruiting chamber and the other in the ceiling socket, or both in the socket, or both in lamps?
  I also looked at some humidifiers. Obviously budget is an issue. I looked at a cheap one $25.00 but it did not have a humidity control. If that things just runs 24/7 in the chamber is over humidifying the chamber an issue (condensation is what I am imagining)?




If you get an evaporative humidifier excess condensation is never really an issue.

It's the warm mist and ultrasonics that will make a mess.


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