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Re: Man pleads guilty to giving mushrooms to friend [Re: Flop Johnson]
#11623267 - 12/10/09 01:06 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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I wonder if he suffered ego death before mortal death?
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Re: Man pleads guilty to giving mushrooms to friend [Re: fltdriver82]
#11623280 - 12/10/09 01:09 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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I imagine he realized what he did after being shot, and was like "fuck" - then died.
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Re: Man pleads guilty to giving mushrooms to friend [Re: Flop Johnson]
#11623895 - 12/10/09 02:53 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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Sad story. However that's what happens when you abuse the plant. RESPECT
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Re: Man pleads guilty to giving mushrooms to friend [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#11624122 - 12/10/09 03:24 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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This is just a bummer story all around. The guy didn't force the mushrooms on anyone and I believe the user is ultimately responsible. It is usually with bad results when I see people abuse alcohol and psychedelics.
Usually DUIs never return to their place or origin but in all honesty I rarely see stores getting held responsible for their alcohol sales. Shit the liquor store down the street will keep selling the local woods bum alcohol until he doesn't return ie passed out in my backyard.
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Re: Man pleads guilty to giving mushrooms to friend [Re: beandip]
#11624135 - 12/10/09 03:26 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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This is why mushrooms will never be legal too many dumb asses out there fuck it up for the rest of us.
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Re: Man pleads guilty to giving mushrooms to friend [Re: sparkplug]
#11624997 - 12/10/09 05:27 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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sparkplug said: Its called a Castle Doctrine. It gives a homeowner the right to shoot an intruder. If you walk outside your door, or soot through a door, you just committed murder, unless you are attacked outside with no way to escape.
There are exceptions to this. Some guy in Texas got away with shooting and killing someone who was breaking into a NEIGHBOR's house while he was away!  The burglar never even stepped foot on the shooters property. I think the law varies by state.
I always thought this would be a good way to kill someone. Invite them over to your house, shoot them when they walk in the door and just tell the cops they were breaking in!
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Re: Man pleads guilty to giving mushrooms to friend [Re: deascendant]
#11625181 - 12/10/09 05:55 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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deascendant said: Sad story. However that's what happens when you abuse the plant. RESPECT
Mushrooms are not plants, but I agree.
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Re: Man pleads guilty to giving mushrooms to friend [Re: sparkplug]
#11626757 - 12/10/09 10:14 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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sparkplug said:Had he shot him in the leg he could have gotten himself sued in civil court.
Killing someone doesn't grant civil immunity from their survivors. Ever wonder what the "wrongful death" suits against OJ Simpson were about?
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Re: Man pleads guilty to giving mushrooms to friend [Re: jimbotron]
#11626777 - 12/10/09 10:19 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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jimbotron said:
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sparkplug said:Had he shot him in the leg he could have gotten himself sued in civil court.
Killing someone doesn't grant civil immunity from their survivors. Ever wonder what the "wrongful death" suits against OJ Simpson were about?
I talked to a sheriff once that said if someone invades your home and you decide to use a gun on them - kill them. True, you could be sued by the family members, but seeing as they were not at the scene of the crime then they would almost certainly lose their case.
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Re: Man pleads guilty to giving mushrooms to friend [Re: Flop Johnson]
#11627069 - 12/10/09 11:22 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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So it goes.
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Re: Man pleads guilty to giving mushrooms to friend [Re: WW27HF]
#11628936 - 12/11/09 09:28 AM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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WW27HF said:
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deascendant said: Sad story. However that's what happens when you abuse the plant. RESPECT
Mushrooms are not plants, but I agree.
No they are not. However I aimed respect at plant use in general, out of context as it was . respect = no health issues, accidents or bad trips.
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Re: Man pleads guilty to giving mushrooms to friend [Re: bugabuga420]
#11628950 - 12/11/09 09:33 AM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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Here is what was posted in the original article. http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/10769682#10769682
http://www.wpsdlocal6.com/news/local/story/Sheriff-Jon-Hayden-Holds-News-Conference-On-Early/4_QoLm1kR066Lb17M0O99g.cspx
Friday morning at 1:46AM a burglary in progress was called in to 911. The call was made from 12505 Logan Lane which is located in the McCracken County part of Kevil, KY.
The homeowner, his wife and two small children ages 2 and 3 were asleep in the home. Their burglar alarm sounded, waking the residents of the home. The male adult homeowner went and retrieved a 9mm handgun from inside the home. He then went to the alarm control panel to see what the location of the alarm activation was. It indicated a door to the detached garage. He then went out side through a back door and noticed that a side entrance door into the garage had been kicked opened. He the yelled that he had a gun, and for the person out there to get off of his property.
He at this same approximate time overheard his wife screaming inside the house. He ran back into the home where he learned from his wife that the burglar was inside their attached garage attempting to gain entry into the home through a wooden door that had a window. He then yelled numerous times at the intruder that he had a gun, not to come into his house. The intruder continued kicking and striking the door to make entry. Once kicking the door open, the intruder stepped up into the residence (an entrance foyer). The homeowner stepped back several steps ordering the intruder to get out of his house or he would shoot him, at which time the intruder continued making forward advances towards the homeowner. The homeowner then fired one shot at the intruder with a 9mm semi-automatic handgun, striking him in the arm. The bullet went through the intruders arm and into his chest area. The intruder after falling into the floor, got back up and starting fighting the homeowner, at one point biting him on the arm. The intruder, according to the victims, appeared to be extremely under the influence of something. The intruder, while continuing to fight and struggle with the homeowner, called him "DAD" numerous times. The homeowner was able to manage to force him out of the front door of the home at one point, but he managed to gain entry back into the home through the front door again. The struggle continued throughout the home and back out into the attached garage. The intruder managed to get into a vehicle that was parked in the attached garage that still had the owners' keys in the ignition. The homeowner realized that he had another firearm in that vehicle and lunged into the car in attempt to gain control of the weapon. Another severe struggle ensued inside the car and the homeowner was able to pull the suspect back out of the car. The two continued to fight which led out into the driveway at which time the first McCracken Co. Deputy Sheriff (Dep. Dwayne Pickett) arrived (Time 1:54AM). Dep. Pickett, after also having to struggle with the suspect, was able to get him handcuffed. As additional sheriff's deputies, West McCracken Fire personnel, and Mercy Regional Ambulance personnel arrived, the suspect continued to fight with them as they attempted to stabilize him. A Deputy with the Ballard County Sheriff's Department also responded. The suspect appeared to be manifestly under the influence of some type of drug. He also was wearing no shoes.
The intruder was transported to Western Baptist Hospital where he later died at about 6:00AM in surgery from injuries we suspect are related to the gunshot.
Soon after our arrival at the residence, we were able to identify the intruder as being 18 year old Andrew Caleb Barnett of 4655 Magruder Village in Kevil. This address is within close proximity to the Logan Lane location.
I, along with other deputies, went to Mr. Barnett's home at around 3:00AM in an attempt to locate and notify his family. We did locate his parents at the home and made arrangements to get them as quickly as possible to Western Baptist Hospital.
Over the next couple of hours, we were able to obtain information pertaining to where 18-year-old Caleb Barnett had been prior to breaking into the home on Logan Lane, a location that he along with several other adult teenagers had been reportedly having a party that involved alcohol, Marijuana, and a Schedule 1 non-narcotic called Psilocybin Mushrooms (street name: MAGIC MUSHROOMS). That location was identified as being 240 Neil Lane which is a mobile home park just west of Logan Lane.
Sheriff's detectives went to the home and at about 7:00AM and found four teenagers at the home along with whiskey, Marijuana, and a various items of drug paraphernalia. They also located the packaging that had in fact contained the "MAGIC MUSHROOMS."
Statements obtained from the teenagers present were all consistent in that they had all in fact been smoking Marijuana and doing "MUSHROOMS" during the early morning hours. They stated that the effects of these MUSHROOMS were overwhelming causing drastic "out of character" actions, and hallucinations. They described the effects experienced by Caleb Barnett to be much worse than the rest that participated.
Detectives there obtained further statements that at around 1:30AM, Caleb left walking (in the general direction of Logan Lane and his home) making the statement that he was going home. Several attempted to stop him trying to get him not to leave due to his condition, but were unsuccessful. Among several items seized from the mobile home, were Caleb Barnett's shoes, and cell phone.
Four adult teenagers were arrested at this mobile home and were transported to the McCracken County Sheriff's Department. They all were later lodged at the McCracken County Regional Jail. Numerous consultations have taken place with McCracken County Commonwealth Attonerys Tim Kaltenbach's Office throughtout the morning.
Detectives arrested:
19-year-old Taylor J. Thompson of Indian Mound Trail in West Paducah, KY. He's charged with posession of a controlled substance 2nd degree (mushrooms), trafficking in a 2nd degree controlled substance (mushrooms), trafficking in marijuana under 8 oz., possession of marijuana, possession of drug paraphernalia, and possession of alcoholic beverages by a minor.
19-year-old Zachary Rodgers of 240 Neil Lane in Kevil, KY. He's charged with possession of marijuana, possession of drug paraphernalia, possession of alcoholic beverages by a minor, possession of controlled substance 2nd degree (mushrooms).
18-year-old Ryan Bridges of 130 Eva Court in West Paducah, KY. He's charged with trafficking marijuana under 8 oz., possession of marijuana, possession of drug paraphernalia, possession of a controlled substance (mushrooms).
18-year-old Kristen Mohler of Woodland Hill Drive in Kevil, KY. He's charged with possession of marijuana, possession of drug paraphernalia, possession of alcohol by a minor, and possession of a controlled substance 2nd degree (mushrooms).
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Re: Man pleads guilty to giving mushrooms to friend [Re: motaman]
#11631112 - 12/11/09 03:52 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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oh, my god this is horrible
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Re: Man pleads guilty to giving mushrooms to friend [Re: beandip]
#11631201 - 12/11/09 04:05 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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The guy didn't force the mushrooms on anyone and I believe the user is ultimately responsible. It is usually with bad results when I see people abuse alcohol and psychedelics.
Usually DUIs never return to their place or origin but in all honesty I rarely see stores getting held responsible for their alcohol sales. Shit the liquor store down the street will keep selling the local woods bum alcohol until he doesn't return ie passed out in my backyard.
The reason that drug dealers are responsible for crimes committed by their customers but liquer stores are not is that drugs are illegal. When you do something illegal and it results in a death, it becomes "constructive manslaughter".
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Constructive Manslaughter (from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manslaughter )
Constructive manslaughter is also referred to as ‘unlawful act’ manslaughter. It is based on the doctrine of constructive malice, whereby the malicious intent inherent in the commission of a crime is considered to apply to the consequences of that crime. It occurs when someone kills, without intent, in the course of committing an unlawful act. The malice involved in the crime is transferred to the killing, resulting in a charge of manslaughter.
For example, if a person throws a brick off a bridge into vehicular traffic below they could be found to intend or be reckless as to assault or criminal damage (see DPP v Newbury[11]). There is no intent to kill, and a resulting death would not be considered murder, but would be considered involuntary manslaughter. The accused's responsibility for causing death is constructed from the fault in committing what might have been a minor criminal act.
Regarding the update that Motaman posted, it sounds like a really unfortunate situation all around. If someone is really messed up on psychedelics, don't let them roam the streets. Restrain them by force if necessary. Also the people at the party should not have answered the door for the police or made any statements. Due to their ignorance of the law they talked themselves into all sorts of trouble, probably drug distribution and manslaughter charges.
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Re: Man pleads guilty to giving mushrooms to friend [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#11631406 - 12/11/09 04:43 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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I think the whiskey is just as much at fault as the psilocybin... if not more.
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#11631607 - 12/11/09 05:22 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: Man pleads guilty to giving mushrooms to friend [Re: SubGen1us]
#11633109 - 12/11/09 09:39 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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Stories like this gets the DEA's little dicks hard. They and the supporters of the ban love it. Oh yeah the poor kid right. Bullshit, they don't give a fuck. His fuckin' friend should get time! That dumbass shoulda watched his friend better. Probably his first time anyway. He needed a babysitter. This story sucks not just for that rookie, but for everyone who works to get the law overturned. This can happen to any kid that gets stoned and is not used to the effects. Be a good friend, don't let them wander on their own while trippin balls.
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Re: Man pleads guilty to giving mushrooms to friend [Re: motaman]
#11633112 - 12/11/09 09:40 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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News Article
Caleb Barnett Taylor J. Thompson Zachary Rodgers Ryan Bridges Kristen Mohler
Of course the kid wanted to leave the party, it was a total sausage fest.
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Re: Man pleads guilty to giving mushrooms to friend [Re: WW27HF]
#11633160 - 12/11/09 09:51 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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Kristen is a guy? Nothin says i wanted a girl but i named you b4 you were born, so it sticks. Instead of sausage, shoulda been more wood. That'll attract the beavers.
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Re: Man pleads guilty to giving mushrooms to friend [Re: world_grip]
#11633235 - 12/11/09 10:08 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hopefully Kristin is a girl, otherwise I can foresee a guy named Kristin having a horrible time in prison(not that she will get any real prison time, Probation more likely).
1 girl, 5 guys = sausage fest.
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