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Apple to smokers: butt out or void your warranty
    #11613180 - 12/08/09 11:33 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

so I came across these links while researching those electronic cigs;

http://blogs.zdnet.com/Apple/?p=5312

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Apple just laid down the gauntlet with smokers announcing that it won’t honor the warranty on a product that’s been exposed to smoke.

Consumerist on Friday reported that Apple has denied several users repairs under its AppleCare Protection Plan (APP) because the machine had been exposed to smoke.

The first case involved a Mid-2007 MacBook under APP that was brought to the Jordan Creek Apple Store in West Des Moines, Iowa, for overheating. Apple voided the warranty because the computer was used in a house where there was smoking. It also refused to work on the machine due to the “health risks of second hand smoke.”

Another case involved an iMac under APP that Apple refused to work on because it was deemed “contaminated” by tobacco smoke and and considered a “bio-hazard.”

Apparently Nicotine is on OSHA’s list of hazardous and toxic substances (although I couldn’t find it) and Apple will not force an employee to work on anything deemed hazardous to their health because of the obvious legal exposure that could create.

Since Apple doesn’t disclose anything about smoking in the North American terms and condition of the APP, users who were denied coverage should – at minimum – receive a refund of cost of the warranty. Those that have been denied warranty coverage due to exposure to smoke could also sue Apple for not honoring its agreement.

Who’s right in this case?




Apple may refuse to fix your computer if you're a smoker

Apple voids Applecare warranty for smokers!

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does anyone else find this a little pathetic?


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Re: Apple to smokers: butt out or void your warranty [Re: LuSiD9]
    #11613212 - 12/08/09 11:41 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

yes...
but i have to say...
people have come into the computer repair store i used to work for that really reeked of smoke....
when we opened the case and the entire room smelt of smoke...


did i feel endangered?...
FUCK NO....


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Re: Apple to smokers: butt out or void your warranty [Re: Tripp420]
    #11613299 - 12/08/09 11:59 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

man, i used to think apple was cool...


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Re: Apple to smokers: butt out or void your warranty [Re: burtonRebel]
    #11613361 - 12/09/09 12:12 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Let people do whatever they want. Everyone fucking knows they can kill you, the media makes sure of it, so if people still choose to smoke 'em let them do so. I don't have problems with banning in public places as long as there are designated places for smokers to go, but refusing them service seems cruel.


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Re: Apple to smokers: butt out or void your warranty [Re: LSDaytripper]
    #11613405 - 12/09/09 12:20 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

that's shitty but i don't smoke inside anyways, but what would be really shitty is if they refused to help me because I smelled like smoke so they just assumed the product was "contaminated". so whats next? a Breathalyzer before you can purchase an item? fucking monopoly.


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Re: Apple to smokers: butt out or void your warranty [Re: Jrea]
    #11613532 - 12/09/09 12:47 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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Jrea said:
that's shitty but i don't smoke inside anyways, but what would be really shitty is if they refused to help me because I smelled like smoke so they just assumed the product was "contaminated". so whats next? a Breathalyzer before you can purchase an item? fucking monopoly.




Monopoly :lol:?  In what way does Apple have a monopoly?


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Re: Apple to smokers: butt out or void your warranty [Re: pwnasaurus]
    #11613536 - 12/09/09 12:49 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Yet another reason to not get an apple. :shrug:


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Re: Apple to smokers: butt out or void your warranty [Re: pwnasaurus]
    #11613573 - 12/09/09 12:56 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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pwnasaurus said:
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Jrea said:
that's shitty but i don't smoke inside anyways, but what would be really shitty is if they refused to help me because I smelled like smoke so they just assumed the product was "contaminated". so whats next? a Breathalyzer before you can purchase an item? fucking monopoly.




Monopoly :lol:?  In what way does Apple have a monopoly?




its almost a monopoly like Microsoft, mostly in the area of digital music devices, do people today realize that a small electronic device that can hold thousands of songs isn't necessarily an ipod? there are other brands? but who the fuck actually buys them?


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Re: Apple to smokers: butt out or void your warranty [Re: Jrea]
    #11613900 - 12/09/09 01:47 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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Jrea said:
do people today realize that a small electronic device that can hold thousands of songs isn't necessarily an ipod? there are other brands?
but who the fuck actually buys them?



Intelligent people who don't waste money on fad brand names.


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Re: Apple to smokers: butt out or void your warranty [Re: WW27HF]
    #11613921 - 12/09/09 01:50 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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WW27HF said:
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Jrea said:
do people today realize that a small electronic device that can hold thousands of songs isn't necessarily an ipod? there are other brands?
but who the fuck actually buys them?



Intelligent people who don't waste money on fad brand names.




qft....


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Re: Apple to smokers: butt out or void your warranty [Re: Jrea]
    #11614048 - 12/09/09 02:16 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Jrea said:
do people today realize that a small electronic device that can hold thousands of songs isn't necessarily an ipod? there are other brands? but who the fuck actually buys them?




I do :shrug:


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Re: Apple to smokers: butt out or void your warranty [Re: LuSiD9]
    #11614129 - 12/09/09 02:36 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

I bought an 8gb nano for 30 bucks from my buddy who got a touch a couple days ago. However I would never buy one retail.


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Re: Apple to smokers: butt out or void your warranty [Re: dispizeme]
    #11614185 - 12/09/09 02:46 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Bring me Steve Jobs. I shall carve out his eyesockets, cram them full of ginger, and defecate upon his smarmy fucking face.


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Re: Apple to smokers: butt out or void your warranty [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #11614383 - 12/09/09 03:41 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Apple to smokers: butt out or void your warranty [Re: WW27HF]
    #11614408 - 12/09/09 03:50 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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Jrea said:
do people today realize that a small electronic device that can hold thousands of songs isn't necessarily an ipod? there are other brands?
but who the fuck actually buys them?



Intelligent people who don't waste money on fad brand names.



iPods are pretty awesome though.  It's not like they don't make a good product, although they are assholes about some things, and it is overpriced.


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Re: Apple to smokers: butt out or void your warranty [Re: pwnasaurus]
    #11614636 - 12/09/09 05:04 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Um I have worked at several PC repair shops and it is seriously disgusting working on a smokers computer. We have refused service to a few computers because of it. I can see why it could be so harmful to your lungs. I think that apple is smart to do this. It's not like they are gonna turn you away if you're computer is clean. It is probably just so that they have the right to refuse service to computers that are filthy with tar.


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Re: Apple to smokers: butt out or void your warranty [Re: audiophoenix]
    #11614953 - 12/09/09 07:50 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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Um I have worked at several PC repair shops and it is seriously disgusting working on a smokers computer. We have refused service to a few computers because of it. I can see why it could be so harmful to your lungs. I think that apple is smart to do this. It's not like they are gonna turn you away if you're computer is clean. It is probably just so that they have the right to refuse service to computers that are filthy with tar.




Could you actually see/feel tar inside the computer?

I have yet to see/handle another mp3 player or laptop that's as well-designed as Apple's are.  Sure, Dells are cheap, but they look and feel like trash.


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Re: Apple to smokers: butt out or void your warranty [Re: audiophoenix]
    #11614961 - 12/09/09 07:53 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

> Um I have worked at several PC repair shops and it is seriously disgusting working on a smokers computer.

Yep.  It isn't the smell of smoke that is the problem, but rather there is a layer of nasty gummy tar like crap coating the inside.  I don't know about health hazards, but the tar turns dust into mud.  From a thermal standpoint, I can definitely see how this would cause problems and should not be covered under the warranty.

> It is probably just so that they have the right to refuse service to computers that are filthy with tar.

That is what I suspect as well.  Not all computers owned by smokers are filthy.  The nasty ones are the rare case, not the norm.  However, the bad ones are really bad: yellowed plastics, brittle connectors, sticky surfaces, caked in a cement like mud.


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Re: Apple to smokers: butt out or void your warranty [Re: Seuss]
    #11615361 - 12/09/09 10:24 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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> Um I have worked at several PC repair shops and it is seriously disgusting working on a smokers computer.

Yep.  It isn't the smell of smoke that is the problem, but rather there is a layer of nasty gummy tar like crap coating the inside.  I don't know about health hazards, but the tar turns dust into mud.  From a thermal standpoint, I can definitely see how this would cause problems and should not be covered under the warranty.





I also work in a computer repair shop... I was about to say the exact same thing. The insides of computers that people smoke around are DISGUSTING and covered in sticky yellow shit, which effectively glues the dust particles to the insides.

I am behind Apple 100% on this, and I believe every other computer manufacturer would do well to follow suit.


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Re: Apple to smokers: butt out or void your warranty [Re: Dango_Bill]
    #11615464 - 12/09/09 10:50 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

You know what else is inside those computers? Electronics parts made with lead, mercury, hexavalent chrome(chromium (VI)) and cadmium, brominated flame retardants (BFRs), polybrominated biphenyls (PBBs), polybrominated diphenyl ethers (PBDEs),
hexabromocyclododecane (HBCD) and tetrabromobisphenol A (TBBPA), PVC (polyvinyl chloride).  Touching a motherboard with nicotine on it is no more dangerous than touching a motherboard with nothing on it.  They are discriminating, plain and simple. 

Though build-up of smoke tar particles could theoretically cause a short, or gum up a moving part, or block out a laser or something, I guess.  Good thing I don't use their products, and only smoke weed.


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