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Any martial artists - advice?
    #11599973 - 12/07/09 12:49 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

I am considering taking a martial art to increase my agility/balance and physical conditioning and hope it has a mental spinoff (self confidence and discipline.)

I dont know much about the differing aspects of most martial arts ...  kicking, punching, sparring/take downs all seem interesting.

I do not know how long i will be able to stay with the school i choose right now, but can probably commit 5 months before moving.

Currently in my town, i am considering:

White crane gung fu - which appeals to me because it seems like it is more of an all around lifestyle type system which includes training with: edged / blunt weapons self defence, nutrition, pressure point therapy, and massage / herbal treatment.

It is a small school that comes highly recommended and seems quite traditional.

Shokaido Karate - This seems like a good school, i like how the present themselves but it seems really family oriented (not sure if this is a bad thing?) - 1 month free, no obligation though!

There are also schools for Judo, Taekwando, wing chun, shotogan, and Aikido

Alot of the schools seem really family oriented, or very... non traditional.

Any opinion about which style, or what to look for in a school?


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Re: Any martial artists - advice? [Re: PDU]
    #11600339 - 12/07/09 02:01 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

tai chi and yoga and dance

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Re: Any martial artists - advice? [Re: PDU]
    #11600370 - 12/07/09 02:08 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

as far as a style to simply jump into for a few months and get a good physical kick out of it... 
try judo or tae kwon do, they both are a very mentally and physically trying sport that start breaking down your body and your mind (your bad habits of action and reaction etc.) from pretty much the first moment you walk in.
I have found tae kwon do to be much more physically trying, but i think it was because it was a sport that i stuck with a little longer than most, i only dabbled in grappling(judo, wrestling) for about 8 months, and i have been doing tae kwon do and kick boxing since the 7th grade.

don't be drawn to a school that is more flash than flaunt, talk to the trainers, some will allow you a few free sessions to get a feel for the class(i trained with travis lutter for 6 out of the 8 months i did grappling for free, lol) from that point you should be able to make a fairly "informed" decision on what you think will suit your goals.
I only started kick boxing because i was a fairly small kid in middle school and found that i was fighting more than most kids around me just to "prove myself", lol, so i started as a "release" and found that i had a knack for the art as well as the "science" of fighting and have stuck with it ever since, i am still fairly small(5' 7" 160-170lbs) but i don't feel the need to "prove" anything anymore... it's enough just to know. lol.

some people however don't start with the same goals, or find that they don't have the particular niche in the sport so they quit, but if you stick with it or just talk to other trainers to suit your ambitions it can become a great way to boost confidence, physical/mental sharpness, fitness etc...


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Re: Any martial artists - advice? [Re: mtichael]
    #11600374 - 12/07/09 02:09 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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tai chi and yoga and dance

is all you need if you're looking to attract other homo hippies



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Re: Any martial artists - advice? [Re: dkamp18]
    #11600376 - 12/07/09 02:09 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

I recommend Ninpo, either Genbukan or Bujinkan.


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Re: Any martial artists - advice? [Re: Kasu]
    #11600480 - 12/07/09 02:35 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

The ones i posted, are my only options.

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Re: Any martial artists - advice? [Re: PDU]
    #11600495 - 12/07/09 02:40 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Judo FTW!  Grappling is HELLA fun dude, you won't regret it.

I have a black belt in shotogan karate - it's pretty lame TBH.


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Re: Any martial artists - advice? [Re: pwnasaurus]
    #11600536 - 12/07/09 02:48 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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Judo FTW!  Grappling is HELLA fun dude, you won't regret it.

I have a black belt in shotogan karate - it's pretty lame TBH.




while it is a very healthy sport, imo (most) karate is for the weekend warriors. lol.

i certainly don't knock the sport or undermine the power of a lot of its athletes, but Karate has become very "diluted" through the years.
that is really the case of A LOT of martial arts these days though, I have found that the only credible way to practice many forms is by self study and research.

i have come across many trainers that somehow manage to open up a school, and become "accredited" and everything only to find out that they are simply a student themselves, sometimes only two classes ahead of the class they are teaching. lol.

if you're interested in simple physical well being and self defense technique you might try to find a Krav Maga class... i know you said the listed was your only option, but if you can find a good trainer of Krav Maga it would likely be right up your ally.
I have seen people go through only 5 months of Krav Maga and come out with a very HEAVY skill set rivaling my own as far as speed and accuracy.


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Re: Any martial artists - advice? [Re: dkamp18]
    #11600564 - 12/07/09 02:54 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Yes, i've heard good things about Krav Maga and watched youtube vids.

The karate schools around here are definitely "diluted" as you say. Family oriented and flooded with children - not that that's bad, but not really what i am looking for.

(based off my experience as a kid, and browsing schools on the internet.)

I printed out a couple for 2 free sessions at the White Crane Gung Fu and ill let you know it goes, Tuesday and Thursday.


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Re: Any martial artists - advice? [Re: PDU]
    #11600596 - 12/07/09 03:03 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

good luck, and godspeed in your venture, it's a challenging but rewarding goal... [insert words of wisdom here]


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Re: Any martial artists - advice? [Re: dkamp18]
    #11600641 - 12/07/09 03:14 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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Judo FTW!  Grappling is HELLA fun dude, you won't regret it.

I have a black belt in shotogan karate - it's pretty lame TBH.




while it is a very healthy sport, imo (most) karate is for the weekend warriors. lol.

i certainly don't knock the sport or undermine the power of a lot of its athletes, but Karate has become very "diluted" through the years.
that is really the case of A LOT of martial arts these days though, I have found that the only credible way to practice many forms is by self study and research.

i have come across many trainers that somehow manage to open up a school, and become "accredited" and everything only to find out that they are simply a student themselves, sometimes only two classes ahead of the class they are teaching. lol.

if you're interested in simple physical well being and self defense technique you might try to find a Krav Maga class... i know you said the listed was your only option, but if you can find a good trainer of Krav Maga it would likely be right up your ally.
I have seen people go through only 5 months of Krav Maga and come out with a very HEAVY skill set rivaling my own as far as speed and accuracy.




I agree - virtually all the martial arts have certainly become 'diluted' as you say.  I feel like karate is probably the most mainstream, however, and thus the most affected by this.

I practiced karate for 8 years, 4-5 times a week, and out the other side, I have virtually no practical skills.  I was even on team Canada for sparring for one year too.  I can swing a mean bo, and I do know SOME practical self defense techniques, however I would not react quickly enough with them in the case of an unexpected conflict.


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Re: Any martial artists - advice? [Re: PDU]
    #11600709 - 12/07/09 03:32 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Forget the Karate. Forget the Taekwondo, you won't learn anything practical.

Of the ones you listed, I would go with Wing Chun or Aikido


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Re: Any martial artists - advice? [Re: Shroomism]
    #11603349 - 12/07/09 03:24 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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Forget the Karate. Forget the Taekwondo, you won't learn anything practical.

Of the ones you listed, I would go with Wing Chun or Aikido




Wing Chun for practical?

to each there own but i have almost never found ANY practical uses in any kung fu, unless you become a dedicated master with several hours a week to practice, i think that kung fu is far outside the practical purposes of his goals.

but, to each his own.

but aikido, is a different story, there are many practical self defense skills that can potentially be of good use in every day situations.


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Re: Any martial artists - advice? [Re: dkamp18]
    #11603369 - 12/07/09 03:26 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

i recommender  punching them really hard in the face repeatedly till they go limp, or aikido.


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    #11603395 - 12/07/09 03:30 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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i recommender  punching them really hard in the face repeatedly till they go limp, or aikido.




I recommend a Desert Eagle .50 cal.


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    #11603411 - 12/07/09 03:32 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)



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    #11603415 - 12/07/09 03:33 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Those who live by the sword get shot by those who don't.  :shrug:


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    #11603426 - 12/07/09 03:34 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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Those who live by the sword get shot by those who don't.  :shrug:




those who live behind the sword let the bullets bounce off it.


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    #11603436 - 12/07/09 03:35 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

LOL, that I would like to see.


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Re: Any martial artists - advice? [Re: deCypher]
    #11603467 - 12/07/09 03:37 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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i recommender  punching them really hard in the face repeatedly till they go limp, or aikido.




I recommend a Desert Eagle .50 cal.




:rockon: lol

that goes back to my original point of the lack of true practicality in training in order to "defend your honor".
those days are long gone, replaced by the ways of those who don't feel like fighting a fight that can simply be ended with a single motion.

on the streets these days, if you are going to start a fight, you certainly better end it just as quick or else you stand the chance of losing your life.

granted, i have actually managed to save the life of myself and my girlfriend using the skills that i have attained through years of practice and meditation, when a gun was introduced to the situation. however, this is by no means why i train(i was pretty much lucky in that situation, because if you pull a gun you better use it before anyone has a chance to react), i train because i enjoy the sport and the discipline that comes with it, i view it the same way as football or baseball, no practical use on the streets but is a disciplined sport all the same.


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Re: Any martial artists - advice? [Re: druqs]
    #11603471 - 12/07/09 03:38 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

the kung fu is your answer my friend. it surpasses the majority of martial arts in mental focus and spiritual advancement, and imo has the propensity to develop in its devotees some of the most lethal strikes.


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Re: Any martial artists - advice? [Re: deCypher]
    #11603486 - 12/07/09 03:40 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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LOL, that I would like to see.





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Re: Any martial artists - advice? [Re: greenspectral]
    #11603504 - 12/07/09 03:43 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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the kung fu is your answer my friend. it surpasses the majority of martial arts in mental focus and spiritual advancement, and imo has the propensity to develop in its devotees some of the most lethal strikes.




i disagree, from an experienced perspective i think that if you are going to devote that kind of time to kung fu you will gain much more propensity for lethal strikes through the study of ninjutsu(ninpo)


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    #11603532 - 12/07/09 03:45 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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LOL, that I would like to see.





me too

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how would you practice that move?

i guess, there is no trial and error lol


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    #11603579 - 12/07/09 03:51 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

start with shooting grapes, then move on to bullets


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    #11603593 - 12/07/09 03:53 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Judo. Hands down.


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Re: Any martial artists - advice? [Re: mtichael]
    #11603767 - 12/07/09 04:13 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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tai chi and yoga and dance

is all you need




QFT!

i think you nailed the nail on the head!

there's enough to learn in a life time right there...


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Re: Any martial artists - advice? [Re: druqs]
    #11603809 - 12/07/09 04:20 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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start with shooting grapes, then move on to bullets




rubber bullets, or chalk bullets maybe?

i couldn't imagine someone consistently being able to stop a bullet with a sword though... 

a good human reaction time (on the faster side) is about 190milliseconds, the speed of a desert eagle's bullet after it has left the barrel is about 70 meters per second

that means that at any less than 12 meters away even the fastest hands in the world would not even have a physical chance to deflect a bullet.

but i guess that is just grasping for straws, lol


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    #11604311 - 12/07/09 05:30 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

i also agree with shroomism, aikido is a very very all round good thing!

i'm not a martial artist but i've been dancing and doing body stuff for a few years now, for the set of goals you put i'm sure that beats any kind of hard/semi hard martial art training!
to get in touch with your body and your health is much easier and revealing (in the sense of mental spin off as you put it) then any of the other options, save aikido which depending where you learn it can also count IMHO, well that and Thai Chi.

doing these "body stuff" has completely changed my life, not in any hippy way, trust me!
i've decided a while ago to devote my self to the study of movement and body therapy and just started studying Shiatsu this year. i still have a long way to go but i know for certain that this is my vocation!

the advice i can give you would be to forget about flashy fight stuff and simply start to explore and discover your body, that's the only point. how you do it doesn't really matter... it is important to at least get a taste of different disciplines (even a couple of lessons can really make a big change if you remember them!) in that sense you might start out in some karate school or whatever but at this point in life (when you're no longer a kid) it would have to be REALLY good to make you stay there until the results you're looking for will come!
mostly what i found in these schools was a lot of competition and ego :smrik:

my personal pivot was Contact Improvisation which made me look for more and more "body stuff" while it may not be for anyone (or at least i'm sure you will not try it out just because i said) i'm sure it has all you're looking for.
that's why i agreed with the first poster that replied, Yoga will teach you to breath (the very basic of any technique) build your flexibility and balance, give you tools for dealing with the stress of living. thai chi will teach you to take the power from yoga and apply it for self defence and movement, and dancing (contact if you listen to me :tongue:) will open you up to many, many more things (if i go into that right now it will take me an hour to write...) just to name a few though... social relations, joy, expression, improvisation(so important in our lives) and so on...

if you take anything from what i just worte, take this: set out to discover your body, how it works, and why it works the way it does. note your stress points and the points that give you pleasure, try to find the connection between your mind and your body and then never stop to be concious of these things.

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Re: Any martial artists - advice? [Re: Simisu]
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Re: Any martial artists - advice? [Re: Simisu]
    #11604524 - 12/07/09 05:59 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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i also agree with shroomism, aikido is a very very all round good thing!

i'm not a martial artist but i've been dancing and doing body stuff for a few years now, for the set of goals you put i'm sure that beats any kind of hard/semi hard martial art training!
to get in touch with your body and your health is much easier and revealing (in the sense of mental spin off as you put it) then any of the other options, save aikido which depending where you learn it can also count IMHO, well that and Thai Chi.

doing these "body stuff" has completely changed my life, not in any hippy way, trust me!
i've decided a while ago to devote my self to the study of movement and body therapy and just started studying Shiatsu this year. i still have a long way to go but i know for certain that this is my vocation!

the advice i can give you would be to forget about flashy fight stuff and simply start to explore and discover your body, that's the only point. how you do it doesn't really matter... it is important to at least get a taste of different disciplines (even a couple of lessons can really make a big change if you remember them!) in that sense you might start out in some karate school or whatever but at this point in life (when you're no longer a kid) it would have to be REALLY good to make you stay there until the results you're looking for will come!
mostly what i found in these schools was a lot of competition and ego :smrik:

my personal pivot was Contact Improvisation which made me look for more and more "body stuff" while it may not be for anyone (or at least i'm sure you will not try it out just because i said) i'm sure it has all you're looking for.
that's why i agreed with the first poster that replied, Yoga will teach you to breath (the very basic of any technique) build your flexibility and balance, give you tools for dealing with the stress of living. thai chi will teach you to take the power from yoga and apply it for self defence and movement, and dancing (contact if you listen to me :tongue:) will open you up to many, many more things (if i go into that right now it will take me an hour to write...) just to name a few though... social relations, joy, expression, improvisation(so important in our lives) and so on...

if you take anything from what i just worte, take this: set out to discover your body, how it works, and why it works the way it does. note your stress points and the points that give you pleasure, try to find the connection between your mind and your body and then never stop to be concious of these things.

enjoy!




i can agree with a lot of that, kinesiology is a great study to get in touch with the true strengths and weaknesses of your own individual body through a more technical standpoint.

with enough devotion, no matter what route you take to discover your own body whether it be martial arts(yoga, tai chi, aikido, judo, kickboxing etc), dancing, or just simply weight training or cardio you can become a much stronger person(both mentally and physically).

don't allow yourself to be caught up in flash and vanity, or become arrogant by the means of only a single form, explore all the options available to you and become wiser by experience, and become more experienced through open mindedness.

in all reality, every opinion given on this thread is just as valid as the last... it is all relative to the person and their goals, but if you truly want to become well rounded in your physical and mental well being you should explore all of the ideas cited on this thread.

the only reason i can give an informed opinion is because throughout my years of experience i have branched out to many different ways of bettering my mind and body.
i have experience from 1 month- 9 years of almost a dozen different martial arts and other sports, from just weight training to dabbling in gymnastics;all of which have affected my current advancment in my choice sport of kickboxing, as well as even my mental strength and stability.


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Re: Any martial artists - advice? [Re: dkamp18]
    #11604595 - 12/07/09 06:10 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

a aluminum baseball bat and some pcp is all you need...or some good tequila and the bottle can do some damage in case you drop your bat, being your buzzed.


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    #11604681 - 12/07/09 06:19 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

don't even waste time if its only 5 months, do something else until you move.

I would recommend Kenpo


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    #11604743 - 12/07/09 06:28 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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i recommender  punching them really hard in the face repeatedly till they go limp, or aikido.




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    #11605257 - 12/07/09 07:33 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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a aluminum baseball bat and some pcp is all you need...or some good tequila and the bottle can do some damage in case you drop your bat, being your buzzed.




:curbyourenthusiasm:

jack daniels does some hard core damage too. lol

my old boss hit a guy with a bottle of jack daniels a few years ago...
the guy ended up in the hospital, and my boss went home with an undamaged bottle of jack. lol


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a aluminum baseball bat and some pcp is all you need...or some good tequila and the bottle can do some damage in case you drop your bat, being your buzzed.




:curbyourenthusiasm:

jack daniels does some hard core damage too. lol

my old boss hit a guy with a bottle of jack daniels a few years ago...
the guy ended up in the hospital, and my boss went home with an undamaged bottle of jack. lol


haha guess he got his moneys worth out of that bottle...what more can u ask for.


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    #11605407 - 12/07/09 07:53 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

haha, guess it's something to be said about a bottle of whiskey that gives a hangover before you even open it. lol


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Re: Any martial artists - advice? [Re: PDU]
    #11605446 - 12/07/09 07:59 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Go join a Muay Thai club.

Learn some no bullshit striking in a really intense atmosphere.

Unlike other martial arts, it will only be a matter of weeks before you get a REAL taste of fighting.

If you want confidence, stepping into a ring and defending yourself from punches/kicks/knees/elbows will do far more then moving through a belt system in a most martial arts.

Ground fighting is very satisfying though, a combination of wrestling and BJJ is my favourite.


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Re: Any martial artists - advice? [Re: Chubba]
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Go join a Muay Thai club.

Learn some no bullshit striking in a really intense atmosphere.

Unlike other martial arts, it will only be a matter of weeks before you get a REAL taste of fighting.

If you want confidence, stepping into a ring and defending yourself from punches/kicks/knees/elbows will do far more then moving through a belt system in a most martial arts.

Ground fighting is very satisfying though, a combination of wrestling and BJJ is my favourite.




that is why kickboxing is my style of choice. i prefer muay thai and korean, i tried american a few years ago, but that is just another example of a diluted style that has lost it effectiveness


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Re: Any martial artists - advice? [Re: mtichael]
    #11605703 - 12/07/09 08:39 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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tai chi and yoga and dance

is all you need



if you dont want to be gay, find a good kixkboxing gym. Kixkboxing will "kick" your ass if its a good school, and its some of the most practical fighting techniques you can learn.


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    #11605715 - 12/07/09 08:41 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

ive been doin Brazillian Juijitsu and mui tai for 2 years now  i actually train with jorge "the Conquistador" Raveria


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    #11606513 - 12/07/09 10:34 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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i likes me machete






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    #11607430 - 12/08/09 12:43 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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i likes me machete






What was that???





You were saying? :smilingpuppy:




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    #11607522 - 12/08/09 12:56 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

You guys jacked my thread.


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i likes me machete






What was that???





You were saying? :smilingpuppy:




damn!  gears of war style! lol


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    #11610052 - 12/08/09 04:25 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

or for long range chainsaw awesomeness:


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or for long range chainsaw awesomeness:





for those pesky hard to reach limbs...
















or those damn noisy ass flying trees. lol


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Re: Any martial artists - advice? [Re: dkamp18]
    #11610330 - 12/08/09 05:02 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Ok - thanks so much to the posters who chimed in with useful information.

Due to my schedule when i return to work, Yoga will be more practical and have alot of similar benefits in the short term. So i am going to go with that for now...

I will be relocating in the early Spring and will be looking to start up a martial art then. I will be living in a larger city so i should have more options...

Aikido is appealing, but Kicking boxing sounds more practical and no-none-sense.

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    #11614280 - 12/09/09 03:09 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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You guys jacked my thread.





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    #11614340 - 12/09/09 03:29 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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Ok - thanks so much to the posters who chimed in with useful information.

Due to my schedule when i return to work, Yoga will be more practical and have alot of similar benefits in the short term. So i am going to go with that for now...

I will be relocating in the early Spring and will be looking to start up a martial art then. I will be living in a larger city so i should have more options...

Aikido is appealing, but Kicking boxing sounds more practical and no-none-sense.

I will continue to research in the meantime.



it is, it is. try to find a reputable trainer too, one that pushes you and fucks your shit up, the harder they work you and make you feel like shit, the better imo


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    #11614445 - 12/09/09 04:03 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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Ok - thanks so much to the posters who chimed in with useful information.

Due to my schedule when i return to work, Yoga will be more practical and have alot of similar benefits in the short term. So i am going to go with that for now...

I will be relocating in the early Spring and will be looking to start up a martial art then. I will be living in a larger city so i should have more options...

Aikido is appealing, but Kicking boxing sounds more practical and no-none-sense.

I will continue to research in the meantime.



it is, it is. try to find a reputable trainer too, one that pushes you and fucks your shit up, the harder they work you and make you feel like shit, the better imo




2nd that.

and try to find an actual team trainer to work under, their competitive views usually tends to make them push much more out of their students, especially if you let them know that you intend on fighting for the team and winning tournaments for them.
almost every major metropolitan area in every state has at least one mma team


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Re: Any martial artists - advice? [Re: themostpurple]
    #11614448 - 12/09/09 04:04 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

it's really hard to know which place is good unless you observe them for a while. i can say though those kung fu places are probably bullshit. you wanna learn kung fu, go to china.

if you really wanna learn how to fight, get some friends and gloves and start fighting.

i would give you personal tips but i'm afraid it might bite me in the ass. :wink:


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    #11614461 - 12/09/09 04:07 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

I'd agree for the most part, but if you have no idea what your doing, you essentially just become an MMA fighter :lol: , untrained, no discipline, no technique....
You need to learn proper technique and movement from the beginning, and THEN start sparing when you actually know what the fuck you're doing.


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Re: Any martial artists - advice? [Re: themostpurple]
    #11614474 - 12/09/09 04:11 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

I have no intention of actually fighting aside from sparring in class.

It would just be nice having badass skills just incase.

I drunkenly got my ass handed to me, by a friend with 3 years MMA on halloween.

The discipline of a martial art is whats appealing though...


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    #11614485 - 12/09/09 04:14 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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I have no intention of actually fighting aside from sparring in class.

It would just be nice having badass skills just incase.

I drunkenly got my ass handed to me, by a friend with 3 years MMA on halloween.

The discipline of a martial art is whats appealing though...



agreed. the discipline plays a key role in the development of your fighting skills though, so becoming a good fighter and discipline are intimately connected.
trust me if you find a good kickboxing gym and you learn some basic take down defense and grappling, you won't have to take shit from any mma fighter again. MMA stand up fighting is atrocious...


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    #11614493 - 12/09/09 04:16 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

lol i don't agree at all.

how do you think martial arts started in the first place? just use common sense and don't flail your arms about. martial arts is about knowing what's efficient and effective. use trial and error and think about the mechanics of actions. certainly someone can teach you but they could very well teach you something wrong.

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    #11614513 - 12/09/09 04:21 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

actually i'll retract that. i do believe schools are helpful and pass down knowledge, but i already have an idea of what martial arts are and will explore my own kind of martial art i guess.


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    #11614529 - 12/09/09 04:26 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

yeah, common sense is really good for fighting, but there is also a lot you really can't just figure out on your own without an experienced fighters help. I train under Bob Smith, who was an undefeated kickboxing champion for 10 years, and there is no way in hell I would be where I am at with my skills without his insight.


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    #11614537 - 12/09/09 04:29 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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actually i'll retract that. i do believe schools are helpful and pass down knowledge, but i already have an idea of what martial arts are and will explore my own kind of martial art i guess.




that works for many people. as long as you can apply common sense to your methods and practice techniques then you can become just as effective as anyone. and it certainly helps if you have someone to spar with to actually apply the knowledge

just like bodybuilding, you don't need a personal trainer, or to be a kinesiologist to become very large and strong. you just need common sense


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yeah, common sense is really good for fighting, but there is also a lot you really can't just figure out on your own without an experienced fighters help. I train under Bob Smith, who was an undefeated kickboxing champion for 10 years, and there is no way in hell I would be where I am at with my skills without his insight.




i knew a robert smith(bob smith) that was a 3 year golden glove...

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but there is also a lot you really can't just figure out on your own without an experienced fighters help.




no, that just means you aren't thinking hard enough. in the end someone thought of that move, and i can just as well think of it too. though manuals help. but thinking about hypothetical situations is how i do it.


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but there is also a lot you really can't just figure out on your own without an experienced fighters help.




no, that just means you aren't thinking hard enough. in the end someone thought of that move, and i can just as well think of it too. though manuals help. but thinking about hypothetical situations is how i do it.




you should check out the Tao of Jeet Kune Do  a very well writen "manual" to an awesome form


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    #11614569 - 12/09/09 04:40 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

cool, thanks for the suggestion. i've read "the artist of life", which is a compilation of some of his works i believe.

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    #11614740 - 12/09/09 05:46 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Indeed I second that.. Tao of Jeet Kune Do is a must read.
Not only for any martial artist but it applies to life as well.
Yes it includes much theory, example illustrations and a lot of philosophies.
The basic premise of Jeet Kune Do being, formlessness.. borrowing from any and every style, using only the most effective movements.


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