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Bulk Straw GrowLog (my first grow) pics!!
    #11595601 - 12/06/09 11:50 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Hullooo,

welcome to my very first grow ever.  I am using 100% straw for this grow, which has been colonizing for the past 17 days now (I just cased it lastnight).


Nov. 19th - 9 quarts of colonized cracked corn were spawned into a 50 gal rubbermaid tub roughly 5" w/ straw.  I made a mistake when spawning however, and put the bulk of the spawn in the center of the straw (for each layer) and avoided putting too much on the outside (I don't know why I did that...), but as you can see below, the outer rim of straw is not yet colonized (whereas the center is just a giant brick begging to be cased!)

The bulk of the straw (in the center) appeared to be fully colonized within 7-8 days, with the outer rim showing little signs of growth since.



Dec. 5th - I took some pictures (below), and cased it.  I did not want to case it until the sides showed some signs of progress, but I had to (as I plan on going out of town for xmas break, and hope to fruit by then)

My casing mix:  8 parts peat, 1 part lime, 1 part CaSO4, 6 parts coco coir, 4 parts verm.  added a bit of water and baked @ 170 for 80 mins.


My only worry is that I may be prone to contaminants (with the sides uncolonized).  I'm hoping the sides colonize within the next week, and if bad comes to worse I will lose a bit of surface area on my first flush (as I'm sure the sides will not be able to fully colonize and poke through the casing layer at the same rate as the rest....maybe patching will help?)  What do you guys think?

Since this is my first grow... I would greatly appreciate any criticism, insight or suggestions....on with the pics!! 
















              (Roughly 0.5" thick)


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Re: Bulk Straw GrowLog (my first grow) pics!! [Re: staratsx]
    #11595658 - 12/06/09 12:01 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

I haven't done straight straw before, but i've read from a few cultivators here that straight straw does not benefit from a casing layer applied.  I am interested to see how your project goes, keep us updated. Best of luck! ~P~


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Re: Bulk Straw GrowLog (my first grow) pics!! [Re: staratsx]
    #11595689 - 12/06/09 12:06 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Looks good but you should wait for 100% colonization before casing.

Most people add hpoo or cow manure, gypsum, coffee, etc., when using straw.

Also, coir has nutrients which is a great substrate but not so good for casing as the mycelium will want to consume it. This isn't to say that it won't work, just next time case without it.

Also you don't need the lime when your using CaSO4 (gypsum). Gypsum alone is a good enough PH buffer. :imo:


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Re: Bulk Straw GrowLog (my first grow) pics!! [Re: nexus1946]
    #11596088 - 12/06/09 01:16 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

well I neglected to mention that I also have another 50-gal rubbermaid tub of straw colonizing right next to the one noted above (two different strains). 

Same deal with this one...it was spawned on the same day and everything, however...this one is actually 7" high and I only used 7 quarts of spawn for it. (pics below)

Although it is sorta having the same problem as the other tub (with the sides not colonizing), it has shown better progress overall, as the colonization is more rhizomorphic and faster.

I was also going to case this one tonight...even though it's not really ready (I was actually just about to start mixing my casing now)...
Quote:

Psuper said:
...i've read from a few cultivators here that straight straw does not benefit from a casing layer applied...



I've also read this - but I've also read that casing is reccomended with straw, and have seen a few logs with great success doing this.  I don't understand why casing shouldn't always be employed - it really just makes sense to me.

maybe this time I'll go a little lighter on the coir.  also I noticed my aluminum pan which I mixed my casing in appeared to be very very slightly eroded around the edges...I dont know if this is because my mix was too acidic and dissolving the aluminum, or too basic... i wish i had a pH indicator or even some damn litmus strips.

So would anyone like to try and talk me out of casing this one tonight?  and why? (keeping in mind that I need to fruit this within 15 days)

Thanks!!!



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Re: Bulk Straw GrowLog (my first grow) pics!! [Re: staratsx]
    #11596303 - 12/06/09 01:52 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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staratsx said:
So would anyone like to try and talk me out of casing this one tonight?





Case it. Just minus the coir and lime.

Try 50% peat/50% verm, and very little gypsum.(not very scientific I know but thats how I do it.)

I guess it would work out to about 49%/49%/2%


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Re: Bulk Straw GrowLog (my first grow) pics!! [Re: nexus1946]
    #11596615 - 12/06/09 02:41 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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nexus1946 said:
Quote:

staratsx said:
So would anyone like to try and talk me out of casing this one tonight?





Case it. Just minus the coir and lime.

Try 50% peat/50% verm, and very little gypsum.(not very scientific I know but thats how I do it.)

I guess it would work out to about 49%/49%/2%




Kk...I will case it now then.  I will go a lot light on the coir though this time (but I have so much stock I feel obliged to use some...).  Though coir is nutrient dense (as you noted), I do not feel I will risk colonization of the casing if I use a small amount.  The only issue I have with what you said is that peat is fairly acidic, and I do not think adding only 2% gypsum is sufficient to buffer the pH to neutral.  calcium sulfate is a very weak buffer as compared to lime, and I feel like I should maintain my ratios.  I assume you have tried those ratios, and they've worked fine for you, but I kinda want to play it safe.  A trichoderma takeover at this point would probably be a disaster.

I'm thinking my mix this time will be:  8 parts peat, 1 part lime, 1 part gypsum, 6 parts verm, 4 parts coir

thanks =)


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Re: Bulk Straw GrowLog (my first grow) pics!! [Re: staratsx]
    #11596654 - 12/06/09 02:45 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

If you want to fruit it sooner than later don't case it for sure.

Un-necessary and definitely adding a lot of days until fruiting.


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Re: Bulk Straw GrowLog (my first grow) pics!! [Re: staratsx]
    #11596815 - 12/06/09 03:04 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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staratsx said:I assume you have tried those ratios, and they've worked fine for you,




Works perfectly but to each their own. :smile:


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Re: Bulk Straw GrowLog (my first grow) pics!! [Re: anonjon]
    #11597288 - 12/06/09 04:11 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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anonjon said:
If you want to fruit it sooner than later don't case it for sure.

Un-necessary and definitely adding a lot of days until fruiting.




I was considering this, but I feel like I would have a much higher yield if I cased it...  My casing mixture is pasteurizing now ...by the time it's ready I'll decide whether or not I want to use it or store it for another time...

I think I'm going to sift around the boards a little...I'd like to see what sort of results people have gotten when fruiting uncased straw...do u have a link maybe? have you personally tried this?

thanks:mushroom2:


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Re: Bulk Straw GrowLog (my first grow) pics!! [Re: staratsx]
    #11597380 - 12/06/09 04:25 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

I'm doing this at the moment.

I have trays in the GH and FC of a Texas clone from the one in my sig.

Most are cased with the 50/50 while two are not.

I didn't use just straight straw though. I used a mixture of straw, cow manure, coir, gypsum, and coffee. Spawned at 50/50 with Texas-WBS.


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Re: Bulk Straw GrowLog (my first grow) pics!! [Re: staratsx]
    #11598814 - 12/06/09 07:53 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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staratsx said:
Quote:

anonjon said:
If you want to fruit it sooner than later don't case it for sure.

Un-necessary and definitely adding a lot of days until fruiting.




I think I'm going to sift around the boards a little...I'd like to see what sort of results people have gotten when fruiting uncased straw...do u have a link maybe? have you personally tried this?

thanks:mushroom2:




yup. 





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Re: Bulk Straw GrowLog (my first grow) pics!! [Re: anonjon]
    #11599156 - 12/06/09 08:40 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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yup.




now that....is beautiful.  with that said, I have to confess that I went ahead and cased it about an hour ago lol.

sry...it's just that (since it's my first grow and all) I wanted to play it safe, and I feel like casing is playing it safe.  The casing layer itself is only about 0.5" thick...which may even be a little too thin...

The best case scenario: stuff will start pokin' through the casing within 6ish days, and after some patching, I should be ready to fruit within 14ish days.  I hope that's realistic, anyway - that's what I'm hoping for.

:mushroom2:


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Re: Bulk Straw GrowLog (my first grow) pics!! [Re: staratsx]
    #11599240 - 12/06/09 08:51 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

best of luck, post pics.

btw, thought u might like this:

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Re: Bulk Straw GrowLog (my first grow) pics!! [Re: anonjon]
    #11599269 - 12/06/09 08:57 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Clever! :lol:


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Re: Bulk Straw GrowLog (my first grow) pics!! [Re: nexus1946]
    #11600323 - 12/06/09 11:57 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

heh, poor willie.

and yup, more updates soon to come!!


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Re: Bulk Straw GrowLog (my first grow) pics!! [Re: staratsx]
    #11601669 - 12/07/09 08:18 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

lookin' nice.  I'll have you know the Church of Black Jesus fully approves of your grow!


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Re: Bulk Straw GrowLog (my first grow) pics!! [Re: Cracka_X]
    #11602016 - 12/07/09 09:42 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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lookin' nice.  I'll have you know the Church of Black Jesus fully approves of your grow!




whoa, what an honor.  i would like to make a donation to the church of black jesus - 1 spore print when this is all said and done lol.


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Re: Bulk Straw GrowLog (my first grow) pics!! [Re: staratsx]
    #11606490 - 12/07/09 08:30 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

the church of black jesus is always looking for the giving kind.

By the way, and this may just be personal preference, but don't you think 0.5" is a tad too little?  From my experience 0.75" is the optimal thickness.  This is knowledge passed down from black jesus, of course.


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Re: Bulk Straw GrowLog (my first grow) pics!! [Re: Cracka_X]
    #11607204 - 12/07/09 10:04 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Cracka_X said:
the church of black jesus is always looking for the giving kind.

By the way, and this may just be personal preference, but don't you think 0.5" is a tad too little?  From my experience 0.75" is the optimal thickness.  This is knowledge passed down from black jesus, of course.




black jesus has spoken...0.75" - let it be known!

but yea...0.5" casing is kinda thin...I would've liked to do at least an inch but I'm sort of on a time constraint... hopefully after patching I will get a nice even pinset.


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Re: Bulk Straw GrowLog (my first grow) pics!! [Re: staratsx]
    #11623389 - 12/10/09 01:28 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Dec. 10th - So I peeked in today only to find a little bit of growth on tub B.  Which, oddly enough, tub B was cased one day after tub A and is poking through the casing already.  I can see little strands of mycelia poking through tub A, but nothing significant.

Tub B pics:


I patched this after taking the photo.  I don't know how most people patch, but I did what I thought was right.  I just took a pinch of casing and sprinkled it very lightly over top of the growth, just enough to maintain moisture levels and promote further vertical growth.

More updates soon to come.  I hope I am ready to start my light/humidity cycle within the next 7 days, as I am running out of time and need to head back home for the holidays.  However, at this rate that doesn't seem like a reasonable proposal =(  Is there anything I can do at this point to help ensure that I will be able to harvest within the next 14 days?


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Re: Bulk Straw GrowLog (my first grow) pics!! [Re: staratsx]
    #11623403 - 12/10/09 01:31 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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staratsx said:(  Is there anything I can do at this point to help ensure that I will be able to harvest within the next 14 days?




I think you know the answer to this one.


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Re: Bulk Straw GrowLog (my first grow) pics!! [Re: anonjon]
    #11624706 - 12/10/09 04:48 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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anonjon said:
Quote:

staratsx said:(  Is there anything I can do at this point to help ensure that I will be able to harvest within the next 14 days?




I think you know the answer to this one.




noooOOoope  :liar:


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Re: Bulk Straw GrowLog (my first grow) pics!! [Re: staratsx]
    #11634349 - 12/12/09 02:24 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

I think I have some bad news.

I just took another peek at tub B, and that area I patched (very lightly) is now exposed again and has about doubled in size.  What has me very worried is the fact that it looks like it is spreading across the top layer and further colonizing it (rather than POKING through it)  Basically, it looks to me like the mold originated on the wrong side of the casing.  It is very hard to tell, as it is extremely faint...a picture would not help.  It looks like a bunch of little tiny strands of polyfill (with no uniformity) and it's spreading. 

I also saw a little piece of debris/stick that was laying on the very top of the casing (on the other side of the tub), and the top portion (which is exposed to the air) had growth on it, whereas the bottom (touching the casing) was clean.  I grabbed this stick and threw it away as there was no way that growth could've been MYC.....my point is, the growth on this stick was comparable to the growth im seeing on the other side of this tub.

I honestly have no idea how to deal with trich on a casing layer, but I'm about 5 minutes away from taking the entire casing layer off of tub B...

I could certainly use some advising at this point if someone would be so kind =P

(Also, the plastic wrap is very wet (on both tubs), which has had me concerned ever since I first put it back on.)



PICS of TUB A



Tub A is looking great thus far.  that is MYC actually poking through the casing.  This is exactly what I was expecting to see...not the nonsense going on w/ tub B


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Re: Bulk Straw GrowLog (my first grow) pics!! [Re: staratsx]
    #11634393 - 12/12/09 02:48 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

maybe I'm getting ahead of myself with the whole "wrong side of the casing" theory.  It's just, it seems like the mold on the top layer is spreading faster than it should be, and it doesn't seem like desirable mycelial growth.

I just realized that the plastic wrap currently covering the casing (being the very same plastic wrap which covered the straw prior to casing it), obviously had residual amounts of myc on it (more than capable of inoculating the top of the casing), and could've been the cause of seeing this 'slight' growth on the top.

With this in mind, I've chosen to 'not fuck with it' tonight, and go to bed.  I'd like to see what some of you think though tomorrow.  Ugh, I have a shitload of studying to do this weekend and did not expect adding this to my agenda :|


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Re: Bulk Straw GrowLog (my first grow) pics!! [Re: staratsx]
    #11634688 - 12/12/09 05:48 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Well, if you thinking the contamn is originating in the casing, then its not such a bad plan to get rid of it.

Perhaps suck it all up with a shop vac and then spray the surface with peroxide.


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Re: Bulk Straw GrowLog (my first grow) pics!! [Re: anonjon]
    #11636516 - 12/12/09 01:10 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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Well, if you thinking the contamn is originating in the casing, then its not such a bad plan to get rid of it.

Perhaps suck it all up with a shop vac and then spray the surface with peroxide.




lol good idea w/ the shop vac.  If only I had one on hand for issues like this.  Fortunately, I don't think the casing layer needs to be removed - and, as per someone's advice, I am treating the surface with h2o2, as they felt the contam was likely cobweb (thankfully).  And after checking it today, I was able to confirm (with at least 90% confidence) that the contam was indeed cobweb.

Tub A is still looking great.  I feel like I'm seeing double the amount of myc coming through the casing as I saw only 12 hours ago.
:mushroom2:


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Re: Bulk Straw GrowLog (my first grow) pics!! [Re: staratsx]
    #11636538 - 12/12/09 01:14 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

that is horrible advice
do not take a shop vac to it:whack:

do you know how dirty the inside of a vacuum cleaner hose is?


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Re: Bulk Straw GrowLog (my first grow) pics!! [Re: noobieshroomie]
    #11636577 - 12/12/09 01:19 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Well thankfully I don't need to take the casing layer off, but if I did, I feel like a shop vac would be a good idea because it would allow you to strip the casing layer off without having to manually remove it and risk stirring contams all over the place. 

Dirty shop vac hose could perhaps be remedied by iso alcohol? =P

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Re: Bulk Straw GrowLog (my first grow) pics!! [Re: staratsx]
    #11637121 - 12/12/09 02:44 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

works fine. the contamns get sucked up.


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Re: Bulk Straw GrowLog (my first grow) pics!! [Re: anonjon]
    #11640750 - 12/13/09 02:45 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Fruiting????


Well tub B is doing fine now with no traces of cobweb (1 day after treating).

As for tub A...it's still doing great, and I'm starting to see a good amount of myc poking through now.  It's actually doing so great...it's starting to fruit?!  Bad myc!!! I wasn't ready for you to fruit yet!!! 

(sorry about the SHIT photos... I'll have to borrow a real camera soon so I can get some good pics of pins/mushies)


Well, so I have one fruit popping up (or maybe it's an abort???) - Does this mean that the entire tub is ready to fruit??  I'm not really satisfied yet though, I'd like to see my casing a little bit more developed before I start my light cycle - but if it's time, then it's time!

I put the plastic wrap back over the casing, and it looks kinda funny where it's poking up in one area :tongue2:...I wonder what this little guy will look like tomorrow.


So any thoughts on tub A?  Is it trying to tell me something? :grin:


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Re: Bulk Straw GrowLog (my first grow) pics!! [Re: staratsx]
    #11642561 - 12/13/09 12:52 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

I cut a little hole in the plastic wrap and poked my lone fruit through it....now it can breathe =P


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Re: Bulk Straw GrowLog (my first grow) pics!! [Re: staratsx]
    #11643228 - 12/13/09 02:45 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Bulk Straw GrowLog (my first grow) pics!! [Re: Cracka_X]
    #11648721 - 12/14/09 12:56 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

My first abort:


Well I went in this afternoon to check and see how the little guy was doing - unfortunately he was looking sickly, and his head was dark and all shriveled up - so I plucked em'.

Poor little guy, I was going to name him and everything.  My first mushie...o well...I didn't expect him to flourish with little gas exchange, moisture and lighting.  I wonder what I should do with him.



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Re: Bulk Straw GrowLog (my first grow) pics!! [Re: staratsx]
    #11648767 - 12/14/09 01:07 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

preserve him as your first!


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    #11648855 - 12/14/09 01:27 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

whats the homework in the back?


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Re: Bulk Straw GrowLog (my first grow) pics!! [Re: feelfunny]
    #11649004 - 12/14/09 01:54 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

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whats the homework in the back?




Oh that? that's just my desk.  Which is currently coated 6 inches high with analytical chem and biochem notes.  finals are tomorrow =(.  The only thing keeping me going for the past couple days was my little mushroom :tongue2:....but now I see the biochem gods have taken that from me as well, along with the rest of my life!


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Re: Bulk Straw GrowLog (my first grow) pics!! [Re: staratsx]
    #11652296 - 12/14/09 10:35 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Good news.

So I checked in on tub A a few minutes ago.  The casing layer is surprisingly quite evenly 'colonized' at this point, and I feel it is developed enough to initiate fruiting conditions.  Also, two more pins have poked through the casing (I can only imagine whats going on under there).  This happened sometime within the last 12 hours.

I also checked on the area of tub B which had cobweb.  The cobweb is basically gone (with exception to a very minute amount), so I very lightly treated it again.  A couple inches over I noticed a big fat pin poking out....which is a shame because I'm sure it's going to abort by tomorrow.

So it would seem that both tubs are ready to fruit (as I had hoped), and as soon as I finish my exam tomorrow I am going to run and buy a couple fluoro's and set up my light/humidity system.  I should have everyting set up by tomorrow evening, so I was thinking about getting an early start and getting my humidifier running tomorrow (tues.) night, and start a 12/12 light cycle the next morning (weds.) morning @ 6:00am.  Or maybe I should just start them both at once on weds. morning?

I took some nice pictures of both tubs tonight (with a REAL camera this time), but unfortunately my roomie forgot the USB cable for the camera so yea....I'll get some more up soon.


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Re: Bulk Straw GrowLog (my first grow) pics!! [Re: staratsx]
    #11652362 - 12/14/09 10:45 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

bye bye cobewb:lol:

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Re: Bulk Straw GrowLog (my first grow) pics!! [Re: noobieshroomie]
    #11659246 - 12/15/09 10:50 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Recent developments:

So I set up my humidifier today, and I went out and bought some lights.  I was trying to find some fluorescent lights that emit in the blue and UVA range, but all I could find at the pet shop were reptile lights, which emit in the blue and UVB range (which I don't know if I should be worried about, but that's what I'm using for now).

Here are some pics of my setup:



I don't know whats up w/ my humidifier though, hardly any air is coming out of my outlets, and the air exiting doesn't feel very humid.  In the last 40 minutes the rh has went from 41 to 47  (but I sprayed it before I closed it), so I don't even know if my humidifier is working properly.


I am already starting to see more pins...hopefully my humidifier will step up its game so I can see some more, but things are looking pretty good so far.

Pics of tub A:




(I tried to get a side shot with my phone to show the 3 little guys poking through the casing, but instead I get a shitty pic as always...that's one in the back there...)


Pics of tub B:




pins!!!


another pin!!!


I didn't expect to see all these pins before bringing the lights out the rh up...but hey I'm not complaining. 

Any thoughts on the humidifier???
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Re: Bulk Straw GrowLog (my first grow) pics!! [Re: staratsx]
    #11659931 - 12/16/09 01:01 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

I don't know could there be to much length in the tubing? I'm not familiar with how much pressure its pushing toward the tubs?  I would love to see you get it right because I want to do the same with my tubs.:rockon: What kind of main pump or humidifier are you using? And how do you have your hoses attached to the humidifier? Are you using a tek from shroomery that I could look at somewhere here? Good luck with your set up, but I know from when i used to plumb hot tubs back in the day, the longer the tubes or piping and the more bends and twist the more power it takes to push whatever it is your pumping through and the less product your going to have at the end of the line.:pimp3:


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Re: Bulk Straw GrowLog (my first grow) pics!! [Re: staratsx]
    #11660738 - 12/16/09 07:50 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

NIcceee


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Re: Bulk Straw GrowLog (my first grow) pics!! [Re: Cracka_X]
    #11672286 - 12/17/09 10:48 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Well the humidifier seems to be working a little better.  The air from my outlets is actually humid now.  The only problem really is that the outlets are very tiny, and the level of humidity/gas exchange could best be described as 'blowing lightly through a straw.'  It should be fine though....there's still gas exchange, though minimal, and I am also misting/fanning twice a day.

I'm starting to see a good number of pins now! 

PICS:


Tub B:








Tub A:






this one is looking sort of strange.  is it normal for the myc to colonize over a pin and project outward?


I've been taking pictures with a real camera as well, so as soon as I get the USB cord for it, I'll edit my posts and add those pics as well.
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Re: Bulk Straw GrowLog (my first grow) pics!! [Re: staratsx]
    #11680459 - 12/19/09 12:07 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

update title:  SOOO MANY PINS


I am starting to see soooo many pins (on both tubs).  This is great - I couldn't have asked for a better xmas gift.  I have a feeling things are just going to explode within the next few days.  I will take some more pics tomorrow afternoon when things are a little more visible.

I had to pluck a few already.  They were the premature ones - the ones that started pinning a couple days before I took the plastic off.  I honestly thought they were going to abort.  They ended up being really small though... This one here is still going strong tho:


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Re: Bulk Straw GrowLog (my first grow) pics!! [Re: staratsx]
    #11684401 - 12/20/09 03:03 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

It's beautiful  :reachforthelasers:  :dj:  :rastana:  :monkeydance:  :redbanana:  :muffin:  :fireworship:  :paradis:


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Re: Bulk Straw GrowLog (my first grow) pics!! [Re: Cracka_X]
    #11686602 - 12/20/09 02:06 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

So a couple of days ago, when I opened up my tubs to mist/fan, I remember seeing a fly/gnat (or something) fly out...I might have just been imagining things because I couldn't find the bastard after he left, but I'm about 80% sure I saw something fly out of there.

I don't remember exactly when this was but it was 2-4 days ago, and at this point I am about 5 days from harvest.  So I'm pretty sure that nothing could germinate in that short time, but I dunno.  If something laid their eggs in there it would probably cause a big mess for me. 

I was thinking about treating my casing layer with methoprene, but I'd rather not be spraying my pins down with hormones.  do you guys think I'm overreacting with the whole gnat/fly situation?  does this sort of thing happen often?


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Re: Bulk Straw GrowLog (my first grow) pics!! [Re: staratsx]
    #11689730 - 12/20/09 11:31 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

meh.  I don't think a minor, one time application of methoprene would harm anything.  As long as there's air exchange, I would think it should be fine.  Then again, I have no idea.


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Re: Bulk Straw GrowLog (my first grow) pics!! [Re: Cracka_X]
    #11690722 - 12/21/09 06:17 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

I recently used insecticidal soap, some kind of potassium salt. It worked good. Fruited just fine.


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Re: Bulk Straw GrowLog (my first grow) pics!! [Re: anonjon]
    #11697095 - 12/22/09 03:35 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Well, tub B is doing pretty well as you can see below.  Tub A on the other hand is somewhat of a disappointment.  I don’t have enough upload space remaining to post pics of tub A, but the fruits are coming up rather small and scrawny…..I wish I knew why.

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Re: Bulk Straw GrowLog (my first grow) pics!! [Re: staratsx]
    #11697920 - 12/22/09 10:11 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

keep up w/ the pics, it's gonna be pretty


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Re: Bulk Straw GrowLog (my first grow) pics!! [Re: anonjon]
    #11838366 - 01/15/10 10:25 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Sorry for the lack of updates.  Everything went just swimmingly (as you can see below).  One of the tubs has been putting out constant flushes of really tiny mushrooms (which weigh out to be next to nothing), and has pretty much been a waste of time.  The other tub however, put out 3 beautiful flushes.  After the 3rd flush I had to remove the casing layer because things were starting to smell bad (sour, for lack of a better description).  After I did that I started hydrating it again (just to see if i could get it to flush again), and its flushing again (for the 4th time now).  This time the fruits are not so numerous, but they are huge.

regarding the pics:

-the first two pics are of the first flush
-pics 3-8 are of the second flush
-pic 8 is a MONSTER shroom
-pic 9-10 are the first flush (dry)
-pic 11-12 are also the second flush
-last pic: the two plates are the first flush(dry), and the second flush(drying)

no pics of the 3rd flush...or the 4th flush (which is occurring right now)

all in all I yielded around 200-220g dry




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