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Bulk Straw GrowLog (my first grow) pics!!
    #11595601 - 12/06/09 01:50 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Hullooo,

welcome to my very first grow ever.  I am using 100% straw for this grow, which has been colonizing for the past 17 days now (I just cased it lastnight).


Nov. 19th - 9 quarts of colonized cracked corn were spawned into a 50 gal rubbermaid tub roughly 5" w/ straw.  I made a mistake when spawning however, and put the bulk of the spawn in the center of the straw (for each layer) and avoided putting too much on the outside (I don't know why I did that...), but as you can see below, the outer rim of straw is not yet colonized (whereas the center is just a giant brick begging to be cased!)

The bulk of the straw (in the center) appeared to be fully colonized within 7-8 days, with the outer rim showing little signs of growth since.



Dec. 5th - I took some pictures (below), and cased it.  I did not want to case it until the sides showed some signs of progress, but I had to (as I plan on going out of town for xmas break, and hope to fruit by then)

My casing mix:  8 parts peat, 1 part lime, 1 part CaSO4, 6 parts coco coir, 4 parts verm.  added a bit of water and baked @ 170 for 80 mins.


My only worry is that I may be prone to contaminants (with the sides uncolonized).  I'm hoping the sides colonize within the next week, and if bad comes to worse I will lose a bit of surface area on my first flush (as I'm sure the sides will not be able to fully colonize and poke through the casing layer at the same rate as the rest....maybe patching will help?)  What do you guys think?

Since this is my first grow... I would greatly appreciate any criticism, insight or suggestions....on with the pics!! 
















              (Roughly 0.5" thick)


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Re: Bulk Straw GrowLog (my first grow) pics!! [Re: staratsx]
    #11595658 - 12/06/09 02:01 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

I haven't done straight straw before, but i've read from a few cultivators here that straight straw does not benefit from a casing layer applied.  I am interested to see how your project goes, keep us updated. Best of luck! ~P~


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Re: Bulk Straw GrowLog (my first grow) pics!! [Re: staratsx]
    #11595689 - 12/06/09 02:06 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Looks good but you should wait for 100% colonization before casing.

Most people add hpoo or cow manure, gypsum, coffee, etc., when using straw.

Also, coir has nutrients which is a great substrate but not so good for casing as the mycelium will want to consume it. This isn't to say that it won't work, just next time case without it.

Also you don't need the lime when your using CaSO4 (gypsum). Gypsum alone is a good enough PH buffer. :imo:


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Re: Bulk Straw GrowLog (my first grow) pics!! [Re: nexus1946]
    #11596088 - 12/06/09 03:16 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

well I neglected to mention that I also have another 50-gal rubbermaid tub of straw colonizing right next to the one noted above (two different strains). 

Same deal with this one...it was spawned on the same day and everything, however...this one is actually 7" high and I only used 7 quarts of spawn for it. (pics below)

Although it is sorta having the same problem as the other tub (with the sides not colonizing), it has shown better progress overall, as the colonization is more rhizomorphic and faster.

I was also going to case this one tonight...even though it's not really ready (I was actually just about to start mixing my casing now)...
Quote:

Psuper said:
...i've read from a few cultivators here that straight straw does not benefit from a casing layer applied...



I've also read this - but I've also read that casing is reccomended with straw, and have seen a few logs with great success doing this.  I don't understand why casing shouldn't always be employed - it really just makes sense to me.

maybe this time I'll go a little lighter on the coir.  also I noticed my aluminum pan which I mixed my casing in appeared to be very very slightly eroded around the edges...I dont know if this is because my mix was too acidic and dissolving the aluminum, or too basic... i wish i had a pH indicator or even some damn litmus strips.

So would anyone like to try and talk me out of casing this one tonight?  and why? (keeping in mind that I need to fruit this within 15 days)

Thanks!!!



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Re: Bulk Straw GrowLog (my first grow) pics!! [Re: staratsx]
    #11596303 - 12/06/09 03:52 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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staratsx said:
So would anyone like to try and talk me out of casing this one tonight?





Case it. Just minus the coir and lime.

Try 50% peat/50% verm, and very little gypsum.(not very scientific I know but thats how I do it.)

I guess it would work out to about 49%/49%/2%


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Re: Bulk Straw GrowLog (my first grow) pics!! [Re: nexus1946]
    #11596615 - 12/06/09 04:41 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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nexus1946 said:
Quote:

staratsx said:
So would anyone like to try and talk me out of casing this one tonight?





Case it. Just minus the coir and lime.

Try 50% peat/50% verm, and very little gypsum.(not very scientific I know but thats how I do it.)

I guess it would work out to about 49%/49%/2%




Kk...I will case it now then.  I will go a lot light on the coir though this time (but I have so much stock I feel obliged to use some...).  Though coir is nutrient dense (as you noted), I do not feel I will risk colonization of the casing if I use a small amount.  The only issue I have with what you said is that peat is fairly acidic, and I do not think adding only 2% gypsum is sufficient to buffer the pH to neutral.  calcium sulfate is a very weak buffer as compared to lime, and I feel like I should maintain my ratios.  I assume you have tried those ratios, and they've worked fine for you, but I kinda want to play it safe.  A trichoderma takeover at this point would probably be a disaster.

I'm thinking my mix this time will be:  8 parts peat, 1 part lime, 1 part gypsum, 6 parts verm, 4 parts coir

thanks =)


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Re: Bulk Straw GrowLog (my first grow) pics!! [Re: staratsx]
    #11596654 - 12/06/09 04:45 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

If you want to fruit it sooner than later don't case it for sure.

Un-necessary and definitely adding a lot of days until fruiting.


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Re: Bulk Straw GrowLog (my first grow) pics!! [Re: staratsx]
    #11596815 - 12/06/09 05:04 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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staratsx said:I assume you have tried those ratios, and they've worked fine for you,




Works perfectly but to each their own. :smile:


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Re: Bulk Straw GrowLog (my first grow) pics!! [Re: anonjon]
    #11597288 - 12/06/09 06:11 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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anonjon said:
If you want to fruit it sooner than later don't case it for sure.

Un-necessary and definitely adding a lot of days until fruiting.




I was considering this, but I feel like I would have a much higher yield if I cased it...  My casing mixture is pasteurizing now ...by the time it's ready I'll decide whether or not I want to use it or store it for another time...

I think I'm going to sift around the boards a little...I'd like to see what sort of results people have gotten when fruiting uncased straw...do u have a link maybe? have you personally tried this?

thanks:mushroom2:


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Re: Bulk Straw GrowLog (my first grow) pics!! [Re: staratsx]
    #11597380 - 12/06/09 06:25 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

I'm doing this at the moment.

I have trays in the GH and FC of a Texas clone from the one in my sig.

Most are cased with the 50/50 while two are not.

I didn't use just straight straw though. I used a mixture of straw, cow manure, coir, gypsum, and coffee. Spawned at 50/50 with Texas-WBS.


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Re: Bulk Straw GrowLog (my first grow) pics!! [Re: staratsx]
    #11598814 - 12/06/09 09:53 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

staratsx said:
Quote:

anonjon said:
If you want to fruit it sooner than later don't case it for sure.

Un-necessary and definitely adding a lot of days until fruiting.




I think I'm going to sift around the boards a little...I'd like to see what sort of results people have gotten when fruiting uncased straw...do u have a link maybe? have you personally tried this?

thanks:mushroom2:




yup. 





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Re: Bulk Straw GrowLog (my first grow) pics!! [Re: anonjon]
    #11599156 - 12/06/09 10:40 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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yup.




now that....is beautiful.  with that said, I have to confess that I went ahead and cased it about an hour ago lol.

sry...it's just that (since it's my first grow and all) I wanted to play it safe, and I feel like casing is playing it safe.  The casing layer itself is only about 0.5" thick...which may even be a little too thin...

The best case scenario: stuff will start pokin' through the casing within 6ish days, and after some patching, I should be ready to fruit within 14ish days.  I hope that's realistic, anyway - that's what I'm hoping for.

:mushroom2:


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Re: Bulk Straw GrowLog (my first grow) pics!! [Re: staratsx]
    #11599240 - 12/06/09 10:51 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

best of luck, post pics.

btw, thought u might like this:

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Re: Bulk Straw GrowLog (my first grow) pics!! [Re: anonjon]
    #11599269 - 12/06/09 10:57 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Clever! :lol:


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Re: Bulk Straw GrowLog (my first grow) pics!! [Re: nexus1946]
    #11600323 - 12/07/09 01:57 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

heh, poor willie.

and yup, more updates soon to come!!


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Re: Bulk Straw GrowLog (my first grow) pics!! [Re: staratsx]
    #11601669 - 12/07/09 10:18 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

lookin' nice.  I'll have you know the Church of Black Jesus fully approves of your grow!


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Re: Bulk Straw GrowLog (my first grow) pics!! [Re: Cracka_X]
    #11602016 - 12/07/09 11:42 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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lookin' nice.  I'll have you know the Church of Black Jesus fully approves of your grow!




whoa, what an honor.  i would like to make a donation to the church of black jesus - 1 spore print when this is all said and done lol.


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Re: Bulk Straw GrowLog (my first grow) pics!! [Re: staratsx]
    #11606490 - 12/07/09 10:30 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

the church of black jesus is always looking for the giving kind.

By the way, and this may just be personal preference, but don't you think 0.5" is a tad too little?  From my experience 0.75" is the optimal thickness.  This is knowledge passed down from black jesus, of course.


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Re: Bulk Straw GrowLog (my first grow) pics!! [Re: Cracka_X]
    #11607204 - 12/08/09 12:04 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Cracka_X said:
the church of black jesus is always looking for the giving kind.

By the way, and this may just be personal preference, but don't you think 0.5" is a tad too little?  From my experience 0.75" is the optimal thickness.  This is knowledge passed down from black jesus, of course.




black jesus has spoken...0.75" - let it be known!

but yea...0.5" casing is kinda thin...I would've liked to do at least an inch but I'm sort of on a time constraint... hopefully after patching I will get a nice even pinset.


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Re: Bulk Straw GrowLog (my first grow) pics!! [Re: staratsx]
    #11623389 - 12/10/09 03:28 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Dec. 10th - So I peeked in today only to find a little bit of growth on tub B.  Which, oddly enough, tub B was cased one day after tub A and is poking through the casing already.  I can see little strands of mycelia poking through tub A, but nothing significant.

Tub B pics:


I patched this after taking the photo.  I don't know how most people patch, but I did what I thought was right.  I just took a pinch of casing and sprinkled it very lightly over top of the growth, just enough to maintain moisture levels and promote further vertical growth.

More updates soon to come.  I hope I am ready to start my light/humidity cycle within the next 7 days, as I am running out of time and need to head back home for the holidays.  However, at this rate that doesn't seem like a reasonable proposal =(  Is there anything I can do at this point to help ensure that I will be able to harvest within the next 14 days?


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