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InvisibleRebelSteve33
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Sensing Another's Aura... Science Fiction or Fact?
    #1159372 - 12/21/02 03:57 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Previously, whenever the topic of "auras" came up, I would write it off as nothing but (and I mean this nicely) "hippie bullshit." But recently I read something that may have changed my mind a bit.

Some scientists are arguing that we really do have auras, in the sense that we all have an electrical field that surrounds us. This is a scientific fact.

Our muscles contract as a result of electrical impulses. Our hearts gives off electrical signals that doctors can measure with an electrocardiogram. Our brains also give off electrical signals that doctors can measure with an electroencephalogram.

All of these things are what result in the electrical fields that surround us. So auras, if you look at it this way, are not just some fanciful emanation of the so-called "soul."

But, you may be asking yourself, if auras are actually electrical fields that surround each and every one of us; why can only some people "see" them? This is where the facts end and the theories begin.

The main theory is simply that some people have a uniquely strong ability to sense electrical fields. This is not as far-fetched as it might seem.

Many animals are known to be able to detect electrical or magnetic fields to aid them in catching their prey or in finding their way on long migrations. This special sense is especially common in fish (probably because it is easier to detect electrical fields in an aqueous environment), but it is also known to occur in species of birds, reptiles and mammals.

It's very possible that humans have this electrical sense, too, but it is so weak in most of us that it is not noticeable or useful at all. If this were true, it is also possible that some people could have an electrical sense that is more acute that most other's, thus allowing them to actually see people's auras.

I don't know if I necessarily believe this theory, but it does seem plausible. Our auras (or electrical fields) can even be demonstrated using a method called Kirlian Photography, as shown in this picture:



So what do you guys think? I'm interested to see if any of you have ever experienced seeing someone's aura or know anyone else who has.


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Re: Sensing Another's Aura... Science Fiction or Fact? [Re: RebelSteve33]
    #1159462 - 12/21/02 05:34 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Finally someone posts some scientific backing for this.. it's about time!
I myself can see aura's, but only when I really look for them. It's been known by martial arts practitioners for centuries that there is what some call "chi", which when harnessed correctly can be used to effect the strength of a punch or kick, for example. When I first started taking ninjitsu I didn't quite believe this fact, and I think that fuels part of the reason I dropped out.. (my instructor was big on the 'chi' thing...)... Years later someone showed me how to view this energy field around our bodies and my opinion permanantly changed.


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Re: Sensing Another's Aura... Science Fiction or Fact? [Re: nubious]
    #1159478 - 12/21/02 05:51 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

I read a book about Qi (it's spelled Qi but pronounced "Chi") that was really interesting.  I talked about it in the accupuncture thread that someone made in this forum a short while ago, in fact...

There is no biological evidence to prove the existence of Qi, but the book I read (Encounters With Qi by I Forget His Name) gave plenty of experimental evidence that proved, at least to me, that it does exist.  From what I understand, it takes a lot of dedication and practice, but there are people called Qi Gong masters who can focus their Qi at will and use it to perform some amazing feats.

Neat stuff!  :laugh:


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Re: Sensing Another's Aura... Science Fiction or Fact? [Re: nubious]
    #1159479 - 12/21/02 05:53 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

By the way... You said that somebody showed you how to view these energy fields around people's bodies.  Would you be able to explain to others in this forum how to do the same thing?  It would be very interesting indeed! :smile:


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Re: Sensing Another's Aura... Science Fiction or Fact? [Re: RebelSteve33]
    #1159651 - 12/21/02 08:05 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Now we ask ourselves..."Where in the hell does this electrical energy come from?" It doesnt just apper out of thin air, it can't be created, nor destroyed, so where does it go when you die? This energy is what people refer to as "chi" or "Qi". Some people can direct it, some can't. So what makes reading auras so impossible, or for that matter telekinesis/psychokinesis (I can't do it, but thats not to say it cant be done). hmmmm...

PS: There are books on auras out there, and lotta websites as well. I've been trying for a coupla months, but i cant see the colors. I just see a blob of clearish grey, with little spots of light. You kinda just have to unfocus your eyes and let it happen with no expectations.


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Re: Sensing Another's Aura... Science Fiction or Fact? [Re: FatNug]
    #1159665 - 12/21/02 08:12 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Now we ask ourselves..."Where in the hell does this electrical energy come from?"
Sorry, WE don't ask ourselves, but you do. Our body creates electrical energy from chemical interactions similar to the way batteries do. Do batteries have souls? Where do they go when they die?

Some people can direct it, some can't.
Some can CLAIM it, but no one can do it.



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Re: Sensing Another's Aura... Science Fiction or F [Re: RebelSteve33]
    #1159761 - 12/21/02 09:10 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

According to a professor at the local school of traditional chinese medicine, an aura is not qi. If you have learned to see an aura then you have simply learned to raise your gall bladder up in front of your eyes. Qi can be photographed, and you can see it (sorta). By seeing qi I mean that I, and anyone who cares to try this, can percieve the aliveness of a tree, for example. Look at the green needles of an evergreen against a blue sky, and note the transparent "field" around the green parts of the tree. Don't confuse this with an aura.

Swami you're wrong, you silly goose!

And what do you mean, rebelsteve There is no biological evidence to prove the existence of Qi? Qi is bioelectricity, so of course there's biological evidence.


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Re: Sensing Another's Aura... Science Fiction or F [Re: Dogomush]
    #1159792 - 12/21/02 09:28 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

I didn't mean to imply that Qi and auras were the same thing... Although they could be... I'm not sure!  :crazy:

Also... Qi is what the Chinese believe to be the "vital life force" or "life energy" that flows throughout the human body through a system of meridians.  There is no concrete biological evidence to prove its existence, though.


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Re: Sensing Another's Aura... Science Fiction or F [Re: Dogomush]
    #1159793 - 12/21/02 09:28 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Being constantly wrong is my schtick, my essence... :cool: 


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Re: Sensing Another's Aura... Science Fiction or Fact? [Re: Swami]
    #1159795 - 12/21/02 09:28 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

In reply to:

Sorry, WE don't ask ourselves, but you do.




No, it's "we do, you don't".


In reply to:

Do batteries have souls? Where do they go when they die?





Ask kryton where all the little calculators go.



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Re: Sensing Another's Aura... Science Fiction or Fact? [Re: RebelSteve33]
    #1159796 - 12/21/02 09:29 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

bio-electric energy field.
Open third eye to view.
ENjoy.


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Re: Sensing Another's Aura... Science Fiction or Fact? [Re: Shroomism]
    #1159813 - 12/21/02 09:38 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Open third eye to view.

*grabs hammer and railroad spike*

Like this? Ouch!


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Re: Sensing Another's Aura... Science Fiction or F [Re: RebelSteve33]
    #1159815 - 12/21/02 09:39 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Qi is what the Chinese believe to be the "vital life force" or "life energy" that flows throughout the human body through a system of meridians. There is no concrete biological evidence to prove its existence, though.

What you're saying is misleading. Cut your stomach meridian. Does any qi spill out onto the floor? The way you are describing qi isn't wrong but it's not quite how you put it. Qi is the product of the interaction of yin and yang. The difference between a dead body and a living body is that a dead body has no qi. That means that when one dies the yin and yang of the body cease to interact. So it is essential to life that yin and yang interact in the body, or nothing would happen. heart wouldn't beat, etc. Qi is not invisible blood, though. That's just a good enough definition for most of us. Electricity is also an interaction of yin and yang, correct? positive pulls negative negative pulls positive, back and forth movement makes a charge, I'm not sure but something like that right? bioelectricity man, bioelectricity.

Swami, I don't believe you, you're wrong again! Wait.... is that a vortex I feel myself falling into???


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Re: Sensing Another's Aura... Science Fiction or Fact? [Re: Swami]
    #1159957 - 12/21/02 11:10 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

In reply to:

Some can CLAIM it, but no one can do it.



-since we're playing this waste of time game...AGAIN.....no one that YOU KNOW OF can do it...that harldy makes it non-existant swami, or is it the all mighty omipotent swami, i keep forgetting.


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Re: Sensing Another's Aura... Science Fiction or Fact? [Re: RebelSteve33]
    #1160010 - 12/21/02 11:44 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

I can see auras. Well...I can see things that look a lot like auras..Who knows what it is though.


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Re: Sensing Another's Aura... Science Fiction or Fact? [Re: FatNug]
    #1160148 - 12/21/02 12:42 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

since we're playing this waste of time game...AGAIN.....no one that YOU KNOW OF can do it...
How about no one that I know of, no one with the werewithal to take the Randi Challenge, no one willing to ever submit to a verifiable test, and every single claimant who backs down when asked to show their stuff (which is ALL of them), every shroomery member... and so forth?

that harldy makes it non-existant swami,
The old "you can't prove a negative" rears it's illogical head for the thousandth time. *sigh*

...or is it the all mighty omipotent swami, i keep forgetting.
Just Plain Old Swami will suffice. You might try some gingko biloba for your short term memory loss. Hope it helps.



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Re: Sensing Another's Aura... Science Fiction or Fact? [Re: Swami]
    #1160214 - 12/21/02 01:12 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

The old "you can't prove a negative" rears it's illogical head for the thousandth time.

Chit mang, dat bitch is bootiful!  I loves dat biotch!

And if your so smart Mr. Smarty Pants, proove it! :tongue:


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Re: Sensing Another's Aura... Science Fiction or Fact? [Re: Swami]
    #1160255 - 12/21/02 01:55 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

The old "you can't prove a negative" rears it's illogical head for the thousandth time. *sigh*




-It really is getting old swami, ok! we understand,,you dont believe in anything you cant fully explain. Fine, good your a realist, left brained, many people including myself enjoy many of your posts, and respect your opinion (when it isn't served to us in an berating, ego serving display of your "logic " or" knowledge").  Does it really help you or anybody else to slice posts apart in your crusade to bring light to us illigocal heathens.  There are easier ways of making your points my friend. I suppose its not as amusing tho. Its fine that you have your doubts, and I WANT to hear them. I understand where they come form, but please try to keep somewhat of an open mind swami, we don't know everything yet! 

-Now to the point, I NEVER placed the "burden of proof" as they say, on you swami. I simply stated the fact that just because YOU don't believe in something, DOES NOT make it unconsionable, nor does it negate the possibility of {enter phenominon here} existing. You know, hu-man have not yet found ALL of the answers to all that exists, we're still trying to find out whats at the bottom of our oceans for christ sake.  We still can't find a way to run our SUV's for the next 10 years without burning out ouur resources, and forcing nuclear war. We still have no idea what we'de be capable of if we could use just 20% more of our brains.Yea we do know a good bit, but as much as we know, and the more we learn, the more we find that we actually know nothing.  :tongue: 


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Re: Sensing Another's Aura... Science Fiction or Fact? [Re: FatNug]
    #1160496 - 12/21/02 04:30 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

I am an irritant for only ONE reason; for someone to either admit they are mistaken and shut up about it or to demonstrate something and shut me up. Instead it is a endless stream of unsubstantiated stories followed by whining about the mean skeptic.


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Re: Sensing Another's Aura... Science Fiction or Fact? [Re: Swami]
    #1160524 - 12/21/02 04:49 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Then maybe you should admit that you are a bit negative and sarcastic when replying to topics that can't be proven scientifically.

(maybe)  :blush:

As for the topic- I saw a video on this chineese acupuncturist who can channel electricity through his hands. He aquired this power from many years of medatation. He can even build up enough electricity to set a newspaper on fire!

Electrokenesis exists!  :laugh:


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What if all the world you think you know,
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