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DeepSpace9
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Sounds like your substrate was too wet to begin with. If they were covered with foil not much water should have been able to get in there.
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Masticore
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Re: Pf tek done right TEK [Re: DeepSpace9]
#14777267 - 07/16/11 12:38 PM (12 years, 6 months ago) |
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Make sure the foil is tight around the jar lids.
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luckee8989
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Re: Pf tek done right TEK [Re: Masticore]
#14870036 - 08/03/11 11:36 PM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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I literally just read through this entire thread, win. Preparing for my first grow attempt (:
Would it negatively impact the cakes if inoculated jars were transported over a 4hr drive? It'd probably be 5-7 days into the inoculation process.
Alternatively, if the jars are already colonized/consolidated, how long can I wait before birthing + putting in the FC?
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VaeVictum
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Re: Pf tek done right TEK [Re: luckee8989]
#14870047 - 08/03/11 11:39 PM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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Bumping an old ass thread to get yourself an answer isn't as bad as making a new thread but this has been answered nameless times on this forum.
For your question specifically? Absolutely not...but if you search something a bit more common sense like handling brf/pf jars would yield something I'm sure.
Your issue lies in the disturbing of your dry vermiculite barrier. It could be a bumpy ride and the jar falling over or shaking violently will do this. Then after that you pose large issues for contams. I'd wait until you're there.
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Re: Pf tek done right TEK [Re: luckee8989]
#14870058 - 08/03/11 11:43 PM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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They'd probably be OK on the trip as long as they weren't exposed to extreme temperatures, and weren't jostled around to much when loading.
About the waiting period before birthing, it is common knowledge to wait 7-10 days after consolidation before birthing, but how long I'm not sure.....I can tell you that I've had a cake that I had almost two months after consolidation, and because it had no signs of contamination when I found it, I decided to fruit it, and fruit it DID!
Edit: Awwe, don't be so hard on him Vae....give him credit for reading the WHOLE thread before posting......how many newbs even read a single page before posting some basic question that's been answered a thousand times.
Vae is being cautious with his answer, and actually giving good advice to a beginner.
Edited by Chez man (08/03/11 11:49 PM)
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Re: Pf tek done right [Re: Chez man]
#14870123 - 08/04/11 12:04 AM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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Bookmarked. Cheers mate nice good easy read
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Javadog
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Re: Pf tek done right TEK [Re: Chez man]
#14870130 - 08/04/11 12:07 AM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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He is right in that shifting the verm layer around can cause contams to reach through the verm barrier.
This is a great thread of Shea's. I like seeing the good ones resurrected.
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luckee8989
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Re: Pf tek done right TEK [Re: Chez man]
#14870153 - 08/04/11 12:14 AM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thanks for the advice. I'm not offended, I mod a forum and get really fucking pissed at gravediggers and redundant questions. And I've probably read more threads, pages of info on this site, and watched more vids than maybe any other newbie, and I know I'm not ignorant, rude, lazy, or obnoxious, so I'm not offended 
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/dosearch.php?terms=moving+jars
That being said, of course I already searched it, but apparently I didn't use the correct terms or whatnot. Thanks for identifying the dry vermiculite layer as the worry issue, because I had no idea if, much less why, movement would harm the jars.
I checked the dates on this thread, since the last post was 18 days ago on an 18-page 4-month thread, I assumed it was active and permissible for me to post here. Sorry.
Thanks so much for the help, Vae and Chez.
[EDIT] I'm a her, not a him, but you can blame it on me being a chick if you want (:
Edited by luckee8989 (08/04/11 12:15 AM)
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Re: Pf tek done right TEK [Re: luckee8989]
#14870262 - 08/04/11 12:42 AM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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Edited by Johnny Depp (12/19/14 02:08 PM)
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ModularMind
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Re: Pf tek done right TEK [Re: luckee8989]
#14870468 - 08/04/11 02:12 AM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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luckee8989 said: [EDIT] I'm a her, not a him, but you can blame it on me being a chick if you want (:
This is a great thread. I bumping chicks.
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Tuvlek
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excellent thread, I'll be sure to use it once I commence my cultivation 
I have some questions for clarification purposes;
After you dunk and roll the cakes, you place them in your fruiting chamber that has a substrate composed of purely perlite covering the 'floor' of the chameber, but you place the actual cakes on a piece of tinfoil/(seperator from the perlite) that sits on top of the perlite? I'm a little confused as to what I should use as the substrate, I've heard perlite works well because it has a high surface area that helps with the humidity, and I really don't want to mess with manure.
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Re: Pf tek done right [Re: Tuvlek]
#14873995 - 08/04/11 08:53 PM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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Tuvlek said: excellent thread, I'll be sure to use it once I commence my cultivation 
I have some questions for clarification purposes;
After you dunk and roll the cakes, you place them in your fruiting chamber that has a substrate with a five inch bed composed of purely perlite covering the 'floor' of the chameber, but you place the actual cakes on a piece of tinfoil/(seperator from the perlite) that sits on top of the perlite? I'm a little confused as to what I should use as the substrate, I've heard perlite works well because it has a high surface area that helps with the humidity, and I really don't want to mess with manure.
Correct.
The substrate is the medium from which the culture/mycelium grows upon.
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Tuvlek
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Quote:
Doctor_Inoc said:
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Tuvlek said: excellent thread, I'll be sure to use it once I commence my cultivation 
I have some questions for clarification purposes;
After you dunk and roll the cakes, you place them in your fruiting chamber that has a substrate with a five inch bed composed of purely perlite covering the 'floor' of the chameber, but you place the actual cakes on a piece of tinfoil/(seperator from the perlite) that sits on top of the perlite? I'm a little confused as to what I should use as the substrate, I've heard perlite works well because it has a high surface area that helps with the humidity, and I really don't want to mess with manure.
Correct.
The substrate is the medium from which the culture/mycelium grows upon.
I thought the cakes were the growing medium, while the perlite merely provided the humid environment that the mushrooms flourish in?
so you put the individual cakes atop foil squares that rest atop the perlite substrate?
also, are BRF cakes legit? I was going to use that tek, but recently I've heard they're the least legit fashion of making cakes. sorry for the extensive questions, I'm just trying to clarify things so I make sure I do it right
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Re: Pf tek done right [Re: Tuvlek]
#14874365 - 08/04/11 10:13 PM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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cakes = substrate
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perlite substrate?
No, for fruiting chamber only.
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are BRF cakes legit? I was going to use that tek, but recently I've heard they're the least legit fashion of making cakes
youve heard wrong, BRF PF tek is the best.
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Tuvlek
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Re: Pf tek done right [Re: eLShaMukO]
#14874396 - 08/04/11 10:19 PM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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eLShaMukO said: cakes = substrate
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perlite substrate?
No, for fruiting chamber only.
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are BRF cakes legit? I was going to use that tek, but recently I've heard they're the least legit fashion of making cakes
youve heard wrong, BRF PF tek is the best.
ah, so the cakes are the substrate, and the perlite is the....environment?
and good to know, I was planning on using BRF since it seemed the simplest
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eLShaMukO



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Re: Pf tek done right [Re: Tuvlek]
#14874426 - 08/04/11 10:24 PM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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ah, so the cakes are the substrate, and the perlite is the....environment?
and good to know, I was planning on using BRF since it seemed the simplest
you have right this time my friend, follow the tek and you have mushrooms in your hands
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Tuvlek
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Re: Pf tek done right [Re: eLShaMukO]
#14874575 - 08/04/11 10:54 PM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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eLShaMukO said:
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ah, so the cakes are the substrate, and the perlite is the....environment?
and good to know, I was planning on using BRF since it seemed the simplest
you have right this time my friend, follow the tek and you have mushrooms in your hands
haha, one can only hope! thanks for all the help
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spuzzchukka
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Re: Pf tek done right [Re: Tuvlek]
#14955466 - 08/21/11 04:55 AM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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spuzzchukka!
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matukuul
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does a 12/12 light schedule mean 12 hours with light and 12 hours in darkness?
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SuperMetroid
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Re: Pf tek done right [Re: matukuul]
#14968323 - 08/23/11 09:50 PM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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matukuul said: does a 12/12 light schedule mean 12 hours with light and 12 hours in darkness?
yup
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