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Re: Pf tek done right [Re: purpleprint90] * 1
    #12687318 - 06/04/10 06:55 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

should i leave the light on all the time when there pinning?

12/12?  stages is it like growing weed the flower stages and stuff?


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Re: Pf tek done right [Re: santaclausmush]
    #12687441 - 06/04/10 07:21 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

no, you cant trigger pinning by changing the light cycle like weed.
12/12 is good.


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Re: Pf tek done right [Re: santaclausmush]
    #12687486 - 06/04/10 07:30 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Pf tek done right [Re: santaclausmush]
    #12692781 - 06/05/10 04:58 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Pf tek done right [Re: phototropin]
    #12696201 - 06/06/10 09:59 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Pf tek done right [Re: phototropin]
    #12696238 - 06/06/10 10:09 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

is there such thing as too much light? i have my FC with two 6500k watt lights on top of it as close as i can get.     



could more bulbs of light be better?


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Re: Pf tek done right [Re: phototropin]
    #12703294 - 06/07/10 02:04 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

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phototropin said:
I got a spore print and want to make a syringe.

1)For example for 5 cakes how many ML would i need distilled water ?
2)Again for 5 cakes ; i am thinking of getting 1/8 th of print for syringe would it be enough ?
3)And four inoculating ; every jar will have 4 holes.How many ML of syringe i should put to each hole.Total 20 holes.
4)How much PERLIT shoul i put to shotgun.7-14 cm ?
5)Is it water that the guy is spraying in the lets grow mushrooms video ? How often should i spray water ?
6)And about light ; 12/12 is good.But should daylight be direct sun (will do in summer could be too hot) or undirect ? Like putting in a room which gets sunlight but not direct.

Thanks ! !

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1)To make up 5 cakes use 2 cups of verm 1 cup of water and 1 cup of Brown rice flour(you can add 1 tablespoon of gypsum). So that would be 250ml of water. Don't use distilled tap is fine

2) 1/8 of a good sized print can be enough for many spore syringes

3) 1 cc per jar, that's 1/4 cc per hole.

4) 4-5 inches or 10-13 cm

5) yes its water and i mist 3-4 times a day

6) Use indirect.

No offense but if you actually read this from the beginning, EVERY answer besides the Sunlight one  would have been answered for you. I make these teks to be read not ignored  and asked later on when it CLEARLY covers all these questions.


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Re: Pf tek done right TEK [Re: Shea25]
    #12703458 - 06/07/10 02:28 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

How do you get your cakes so evenly coated with verm?


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Re: Pf tek done right TEK [Re: billycorgan55]
    #12703472 - 06/07/10 02:30 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Pf tek done right TEK [Re: billycorgan55]
    #12703475 - 06/07/10 02:31 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

I bust up the verm a little finer with a coffee grinder, Just make sure right after you rinse the cakes roll them asap, you might have to patch some places that did not stick well. I find a really even and nice coating helps


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Re: Pf tek done right TEK [Re: Shea25]
    #12707667 - 06/08/10 07:57 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)





So, I'm weeks into this and have got 12 jars that look like this (thanks all).  In a few days I'm going to birth, dunk and roll, and place them all in a shotgun terrarium with perlite at the bottom.

I have, of course, another dumb question (not the first and I'm sure won't be the last).  Its about misting and fanning.  I found this quote in somebody's post on this site:

"For misting, use a clean spray bottle with a spray nozzle that produces a really fin mist. Spray above your terrarium allow mist to fall inside then fan for 10-20 seconds with the lid of your FC.  Fanning out your terrarium introduces fresh air which is a key pinning trigger, removes stale air which contaminants thrive in and reduces c02.  Misting helps keep your humidity up. You dont have to worry about your cakes getting a bit wet. they like to be moist. Fanning after misting will dry any large droplets of water that may have formed which is a bad thing on pins and fruitbody's."

Does that quote seem correct to you all?  My real question here involves the last part, about water on the actual pins.  I assume that when I get pins and I mist that they will get wet.  I would also imagine that them getting wet would pretty much mimic a state of nature, so I assume I shouldn't be concerned about ANY wetness of the pins.  The quote seems to say just worry about LARGE DROPS of water on the pins but not about anything else.  Is that correct?  Another way to ask this is how worried do I need to be about getting pins (or mushrooms themselves) wet by misting?

Regarding fanning, I assume I'm not doing it to "dry off and evaporate" the water I just misted but really just to circulate air -- is that correct?

By the way, I recognize how compulsive this all sounds ("dude, just mist and fan, OK?") but the cakes are going good, I've never done this before and I don't want to blow it at the fruiting stage. 

Thanks


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Re: Pf tek done right TEK [Re: spyrelx]
    #12707814 - 06/08/10 08:44 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Mist 3-4 times a day and fan after always, fan 5-6 times a day. Mist the cakes directly it's fine and wont cause the pins to abort.


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Re: Pf tek done right TEK [Re: spyrelx]
    #12707835 - 06/08/10 08:49 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Yes, an excess of water on pins and knots can cause them to abort.

Fanning circulates fresh air mainly but can also knock off large collected water droplets.


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Re: Pf tek done right TEK [Re: ModularMind]
    #12710469 - 06/08/10 04:55 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Thanks guys, I appreciate it.


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Re: Pf tek done right [Re: santaclausmush]
    #12711223 - 06/08/10 07:27 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

santaclausmush said:
is there such thing as too much light? i have my FC with two 6500k watt lights on top of it as close as i can get.     



could more bulbs of light be better?




no answer?

shea i have another question also.

my brf cakes are 100% colonized. i dont have room in my FC. so the jars are colonized but just sitting there.

1. how long can i leave them in the jars?
2. can i put them in the fridge to slow down the myc?
3. the question above. could there be such a thing with too much light?


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Re: Pf tek done right [Re: santaclausmush]
    #12711318 - 06/08/10 07:41 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

1. as long as they dont start to fruit.
2. yes put them in the fridge for long term(a week+)
3. not too sure, check the nptes over light in my sig.


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Re: Pf tek done right [Re: santaclausmush]
    #12712264 - 06/08/10 10:07 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

The 6500k bulb puts off a significant amount of heat and a close proximity will raise your FC's temp. Having it right on top is not necessarily beneficial. 

If you can see, you have sufficient light.


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Re: Pf tek done right [Re: ModularMind]
    #12712534 - 06/08/10 11:01 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

very nice write up, i have done the pf tek three times now, the first time i failed, the second time i did three cakes and fruited them all, and now i have 12 jars colonizing 6 PR's from Ralph and 6 Cambo's from a home made syringe. Needless to say i am still a bit of a noob and write ups like this greatly help.


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Re: Pf tek done right [Re: aamon]
    #12719839 - 06/10/10 10:16 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Hello again,

I've birthed my cakes and they're sitting in water in the fridge (it's pretty hot here). 

They all look good and I don't think this what I'm about to describe is a problem but I wanted to double check.  Three of my cakes (the ones with PE spores) have one or two slight patches of yellow, like this (on the right):



And one of them has a patch of very light blue, like this (on the right):



and up top:



I'm thinking that this is fine but just wanted to double check.  All three are soaking in water separated from the other cakes.

Your prognosis welcome.  Thanks.


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Re: Pf tek done right [Re: spyrelx]
    #12719913 - 06/10/10 10:39 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

spyrelx said:
Hello again,

I've birthed my cakes and they're sitting in water in the fridge (it's pretty hot here). 

They all look good and I don't think this what I'm about to describe is a problem but I wanted to double check.  Three of my cakes (the ones with PE spores) have one or two slight patches of yellow, like this (on the right):



And one of them has a patch of very light blue, like this (on the right):



and up top:



I'm thinking that this is fine but just wanted to double check.  All three are soaking in water separated from the other cakes.

Your prognosis welcome.  Thanks.




Picture 1) Metabolites:shrug: I'm not sure, keep an eye on it
picture 2) Bruising


Edited by Shea25 (06/10/10 10:39 AM)


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