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mandrax360
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Re: OFFICIAL U.K CYAN DISTRIBUTION THREAD [Re: hungrygoldfish]
#16041923 - 04/04/12 07:26 AM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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hazel will work well . If you make a small tube at home then spawn outside in 2-4 weeks you will be laughing come autumn . The Forestry Commission is your best friend as they keep adding new woodchip every year or 2 saving you all the time and effort . good luck goldfish .
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Re: OFFICIAL U.K CYAN DISTRIBUTION THREAD [Re: hungrygoldfish]
#16042111 - 04/04/12 08:42 AM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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hungrygoldfish said: Since adding extra woodchip I've had some mega-fuzz growing...I pressure cooked the chips for one hour before adding...
Do not (pressure) cook or boil wood chips. To sterilise wood chips will kill all the beneficial bacteria which help to keep moulds away.
By far the best procedure to prepare wood chips is UNDERWATER FERMENTATION.
Put about 20 kg wood chips in a big tub, fill up with tap water and stir two times a day. After a few days, the chips begin to sink to the bottom of the tub. After about a week, depending on the temperatures, an unpleasant smell will develop caused by bacteria. The bacteria will digest all the soluble sugars from the wood within 3 to 4 weeks, again depending on the temps.
VERY IMPORTANT: The wood chips have to be submerged underwater completely during the fermentation process.
After the bacteria have done their work, just pour away the water and let the wood chips drain for a few hours. The unpleasant smell will disappear and the wood chips are ready for inoculation. Moulds have no chance to grow because all soluble sugars are gone, eaten by the bacteria. Moulds need easily digestible carbohydrates to grow, like dextrose, saccharose etc. They can't break down complex carbohydrates.
The same procedure works also very well for (wheat) straw.
Edited by Sporulator (04/04/12 11:33 PM)
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Re: OFFICIAL U.K CYAN DISTRIBUTION THREAD [Re: Sporulator]
#16042587 - 04/04/12 11:09 AM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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Perfect way to explain what happens when you do this process. I've used this way before, and it works great. Plus it takes very little effort to produce hundreds of pounds of chips.
@ Goldfish: The forestry commission sounds like your friend. After the wood is chipped up and sits outside for a year or so, it doesn't really matter what type of tree it is (as long as you stay away from any species of cedar or wood with lots of sap). Hardwoods are the best to use, but species of fir, pine, spruce and others work just fine (if they are not fresh chips). Another thing to consider, get in contact with some local tree services. Many companies that do storm cleanup will gladly dump a few truck loads of chips at your house for a small fee, and maybe a 12 pack
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Re: OFFICIAL U.K CYAN DISTRIBUTION THREAD [Re: Sporulator]
#16042687 - 04/04/12 11:35 AM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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oopsie. I read a thread from a few years back saying boil your woodchips for an hour then leave them 24 hours to soak... shit I hope that doesn't screw things up for me?
I've just filled a big old pot (with lots of air holes in the sides) with a couple of these
(cyanofriscosas on egg cartons, which they seemed to love!)
and some (unknown hardwood) chips, rhododendron chippings, aspen chips and humus from a forest floor.
another pot I did about 3 weeks ago, using straight grains has quite a bit of myc in it (no pics as it's pissing it down outside) but I'll update this in a bit
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Re: OFFICIAL U.K CYAN DISTRIBUTION THREAD [Re: keeno]
#16044029 - 04/04/12 04:27 PM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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Very interesting and insightful Sporulator, I know I've binned chips that emitted that rancid smell after a few days thinking they were shagged...
Kind of makes me question my 'bring to a fast boil then straight off the heat and steep for an hour' tek, I only do this for uber-quick hydration but could be contributing to that same fuzziness appearing.
I've kept at bay with recent projects by hand scraping off infected top layer -underneath doesn't seem to support it the same, right away at least that is.
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Re: OFFICIAL U.K CYAN DISTRIBUTION THREAD [Re: UK Explorer]
#16046275 - 04/05/12 01:55 AM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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@ Keeno , they will be fine as long as they get plenty FAE and are not over misted . once the MYC takes hold the wobweb does not stand a chance.
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hi im new to shroom hunting. i was wondering if anyone has seen any cyans around london at this time of the year. i know of a spot where they grow but wasnt sure if they would be fruiting at the moment after the recent rain.
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Re: cyans at night [Re: gobbeler]
#16146080 - 04/27/12 08:04 AM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'd wait till late autumn to look.
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There was a thread about Spring actives a couple of days ago, be easy to find with a quick search. I'm exceedinglyh lazy.
It's generally slim pickens' until June/July in the best areas, more likely late Sept-Oct in the London area.
It's grim up North... but they get Libs about 3-4 months before the rest of us!
P. Cubensis is easily cultivated.
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PoundStretcher has bag of woodland bark 40l bags for Ā£2.50 got some for the garden and found 90% of the bag was wood chippings and small twigs . Got some soaking now to add to my tub to see if the myc likes it .A lot cheaper than the alder chip i use so I'll give it a go.
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keeno
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yeah I saw that too but wasn't sure if bark was any good. I'l keep them peeled to see if they take to it
Aldi has bags of bark too for about the same price, so has anyone had experience with that at all?
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Re: cyans at night [Re: keeno]
#16200984 - 05/08/12 06:13 PM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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Don't you guys have any hardwood trees you can cut some logs from and chip up with an axe or something? Paying for wood chips for projects is one thing, but bark? I'm sure you guys have some local tree crews that clean up after storms and chip up all the branches and what not. I would try to contact somebody along those lines if you guys are resorting to buying bagged bark. Just my
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Re: cyans at night [Re: NeoSporen]
#16203329 - 05/09/12 02:52 AM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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bfogg8706 said: Don't you guys have any hardwood trees you can cut some logs from and chip up with an axe or something? Paying for wood chips for projects is one thing, but bark? I'm sure you guys have some local tree crews that clean up after storms and chip up all the branches and what not. I would try to contact somebody along those lines if you guys are resorting to buying bagged bark. Just my
Yes, I am sure in the UK there are places like this:
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yeah, I think your option is probably best. personally I contacted 6 or 7 tree crews here and the best I could get from them was "i'll drop off a hundred weight of chips for you" but since I only wanted 3 or 4 pots worth, that'll end up with my whole garden swamped (it's concreted over unfortunately, so I couldn't even put the excess on my borders or anything) and also, I travel by bike/ public transport, so getting to mountains of chips (if I could find the buggers) isn't so easy Perhaps purchasing a god stout axe isn't a bad idea though...
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keeno said: yeah, I think your option is probably best. personally I contacted 6 or 7 tree crews here and the best I could get from them was "i'll drop off a hundred weight of chips for you" but since I only wanted 3 or 4 pots worth, that'll end up with my whole garden swamped (it's concreted over unfortunately, so I couldn't even put the excess on my borders or anything) and also, I travel by bike/ public transport, so getting to mountains of chips (if I could find the buggers) isn't so easy Perhaps purchasing a god stout axe isn't a bad idea though...
A backpack full of good mulch goes a long way (so does a 6 pack of beer when you give it to the tree crew guys), so it might be worth getting some. But, a stout axe or hatchet can make short work of a half rotten log and give you a nice mulch bed out in the forest to play with. Quote:
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bfogg8706 said: Don't you guys have any hardwood trees you can cut some logs from and chip up with an axe or something? Paying for wood chips for projects is one thing, but bark? I'm sure you guys have some local tree crews that clean up after storms and chip up all the branches and what not. I would try to contact somebody along those lines if you guys are resorting to buying bagged bark. Just my
Yes, I am sure in the UK there are places like this:
That's what I hoped to see
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mandrax360
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Re: cyans at night [Re: NeoSporen]
#16223099 - 05/13/12 05:17 AM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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Any one in the UK have luck with there Oviod patch's ?
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Re: OFFICIAL U.K CYAN DISTRIBUTION THREAD [Re: libs]
#16223516 - 05/13/12 09:36 AM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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Finally managing to make my contribution to the local Cyan population:
About 2 weeks, the rye grains seem to promote much more aggressive growth than WBS (although the WBS jar was shaken 2 days ago).
Edited by ACorvus (05/13/12 09:45 AM)
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Re: OFFICIAL U.K CYAN DISTRIBUTION THREAD [Re: ACorvus]
#16258168 - 05/20/12 12:58 PM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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6 pint jars now mixed into 3 tubs with 2L of mixed Chipsi M/L/XL. When that 6L is done the next step is to expand to about 60L (maybe in 2 steps)
2 pint jars left for GLC. I know a couple of spots that might benefit from some mycelial assistance ;-).
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mandrax360
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Re: OFFICIAL U.K CYAN DISTRIBUTION THREAD [Re: ACorvus]
#16261613 - 05/21/12 06:19 AM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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Once the myc gets a taste for them chipsi , there is no stopping it .
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Re: OFFICIAL U.K CYAN DISTRIBUTION THREAD [Re: mandrax360]
#16286314 - 05/26/12 12:27 AM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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Shit guys, my Ovoid and Cyan woodchip tubs have recently sprouted these little white insect things. Are they mites that'll eat the mycelium? What do I do??
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