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Re: How on Earth is aspartame legal?? [Re: deCypher]
    #11596581 - 12/06/09 02:38 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah,but that's the thing with living in a community...you have to take the good with the bad...of course there are going to be people who benefit from it more then others, without even being aware of it,but we are here to help each other out even if we'd like to forget about it or if other people make us ashamed for it.We just have to do our part in it and try to better the community however we can.This being said it would be only logical to add some kind of tax to items such as fast-food and tobacco that goes directly to the health-care system to pay for the damage such a lifestyle does.


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Re: How on Earth is aspartame legal?? [Re: 13.step]
    #11596614 - 12/06/09 02:41 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

They already tax the fuck outta tobacco for that. If they need more public health care money, a small tax on fast food and soda would go a long way


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Re: How on Earth is aspartame legal?? [Re: Entropymancer]
    #11596842 - 12/06/09 03:08 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

yeah, why is there not a huge tax on soda?  It's completely void of any nutrition and extremely detrimental to your health.


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Re: How on Earth is aspartame legal?? [Re: sirdonut]
    #11596850 - 12/06/09 03:09 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Yea lets just tax the fuck out of everything we don't like!!! Sounds like an awesome idea. More money for weapons! :rolleyes:


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Re: How on Earth is aspartame legal?? [Re: Entropymancer]
    #11596872 - 12/06/09 03:12 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

It's not that bad...it just ain't good...a small tax would indeed go a long way,also just selling it in small containers would be a good idea...so maybe banning everything over a liter would be a smart.It's tasty but there is really no need to drink liters of the stuff.


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Re: How on Earth is aspartame legal?? [Re: 13.step]
    #11596882 - 12/06/09 03:14 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

It's not like taxing it would guarantee the money would go towards health care...


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Re: How on Earth is aspartame legal?? [Re: Tangerines]
    #11596884 - 12/06/09 03:14 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

I'm not saying to tax soda because I don't like it. I'm saying to tax soda to help equitably distribute health care costs. I don't have a problem with taxing tobacco to cover the healthcare costs of smokers (though truthfully it seems you'd save money since less smokers survive into their nineties, clinging to life and racking up medical bills left and right as their body slowly shuts down)... but tobacco shouldn't be the only thing being taxed in this way. That's discrimination.  Other major contributing factors to healthcare costs ought to be taxed similarly if tobacco is. And frankly, it doesn't sound like a bad idea to me, since it places a larger amount of the burden of healthcare costs on the groups who are disproportionately apt to incur the increased cost.


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Re: How on Earth is aspartame legal?? [Re: Tangerines]
    #11596887 - 12/06/09 03:15 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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It's not like taxing it would guarantee the money would go towards health care...



Yup, there's no guarentee at all... unless it's written into the legislation :foreheadslap:


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Re: How on Earth is aspartame legal?? [Re: Entropymancer]
    #11596903 - 12/06/09 03:17 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Even if it was written in the bill I would not believe it.  It just takes some sneaky 'legal' embezzlement.


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Re: How on Earth is aspartame legal?? [Re: 13.step]
    #11596905 - 12/06/09 03:18 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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so maybe banning everything over a liter would be a smart.




No.

What the hell is with all these shroomerites wanting to make shit illegal?

Once and for all:
Prohibition is not, has never been, and will never be a viable model in any society that gives a rats ass about civil rights


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Re: How on Earth is aspartame legal?? [Re: Entropymancer]
    #11596916 - 12/06/09 03:20 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Are you pissed trans fat is going to be illegal in restaurants in Cali?


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Re: How on Earth is aspartame legal?? [Re: Entropymancer]
    #11596959 - 12/06/09 03:26 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

My head hurts...

It's not like banning soda,maybe I worded it a bit awkwardly,sorry but my English is a bit rusty.It's more like regulating it,you'd still have what you wanted and be able to get it anytime you wanted it it just would be in a way that would be harder to consume large quantities of.That's what I am doing,I stopped buying 2 liter bottles of coke and Pepsi and just buy a small can of it whenever i want a taste,my stomach thanks me.

I am not for banning anything but i don't consider limiting the amount you can buy soda in to be prohibition in any form.Anyway...it's just what works for me.


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Re: How on Earth is aspartame legal?? [Re: 13.step]
    #11596969 - 12/06/09 03:28 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Limiting peoples supply of soda directly interferes with their personal freedoms. I am not down with that.  They may as well limit cigarettes to one pack a week per person according to you.


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Re: How on Earth is aspartame legal?? [Re: Tangerines]
    #11596972 - 12/06/09 03:28 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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Are you pissed trans fat is going to be illegal in restaurants in Cali?



Obviously. It's fucking absurd that people are denied the choice of eating trans-fats.

I'm all for proper labelling, having menus indicate which dishes include trans-fats. But to outright ban them is bass-akwards and asinine.


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Re: How on Earth is aspartame legal?? [Re: Entropymancer]
    #11596980 - 12/06/09 03:29 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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13.step said:
so maybe banning everything over a liter would be a smart.




No.

What the hell is with all these shroomerites wanting to make shit illegal?

Once and for all:
Prohibition is not, has never been, and will never be a viable model in any society that gives a rats ass about civil rights





this thread is retarded

Prohibition is not a viable model to control things which people desire like drugs

If you banned aspartame do you think a black market for it would spring up? No

Anyway the above point is moot since aspartame is a harmless additive,:tongue2:

you guys should be far more worried about your tobacco, alcohol and car exhaust fume intake than your aspartame intake :rolleyes:


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Re: How on Earth is aspartame legal?? [Re: Entropymancer]
    #11596985 - 12/06/09 03:30 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

I agree.  I can see the banning in regards to THE GREATER HEALTH OF THE PEOPLE, but I still do not agree with it as it is just another right they are stripping away from us.


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Re: How on Earth is aspartame legal?? [Re: Redstorm]
    #11596995 - 12/06/09 03:32 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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Why make it illegal? Do you like to tell people what they can and can not consume? Maybe we should just let people make their own choices instead of making it for them.




Seriously.  Its sad how many people on the shroomery jump on the bandwagon in favor of banning things and expanding prohibition when its something they dont like to do.  Hypocrites who would gleefully infringe on my rights.


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Re: How on Earth is aspartame legal?? [Re: Tangerines]
    #11597000 - 12/06/09 03:33 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Dude,chill and go back and read my post.I never said anything about limiting the amount of soda per person,sorry if it got out like that,as i said my english is not that good.What I said was to limit the size of the recipients it comes in so as to make drinking tons of it a bit harder.


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Re: How on Earth is aspartame legal?? [Re: DieCommie]
    #11597004 - 12/06/09 03:34 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

It is very funny how similar so many shroomerites are to the people they claim to 'hate' for infringing on the basic drug user's rights.  Ahhh reflection is a bitch.


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Re: How on Earth is aspartame legal?? [Re: Entropymancer]
    #11597005 - 12/06/09 03:34 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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Are you pissed trans fat is going to be illegal in restaurants in Cali?



Obviously. It's fucking absurd that people are denied the choice of eating trans-fats.

I'm all for proper labelling, having menus indicate which dishes include trans-fats. But to outright ban them is bass-akwards and asinine.




I see I need not have chimed in since the intelligent people are already making the case.  Its good that not everyone jumps on naive emotionally driven 'ban what I dont like' bandwagon.


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