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Re: How on Earth is aspartame legal?? [Re: future primitive]
    #11602560 - 12/07/09 11:30 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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I haven't insulted anyone. the fact that you're defending these substances speaks volumes about what kind of person you are. a) you're not very smart or b) you feel threatened by discussion and free thought.



zomg! :omgz:

Defending civil liberties = feeling threatened by discussion and free thought ?

Now don't get me wrong, I'm just a barely-functioning imbecile who has difficulty keeping the drool off my chin so I might fall into the former category, but Decypher and DieCommie are are pretty smart dudes.

(also, it's kind of funny to insult people right after you say you haven't insulted anyone... just sayin')


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Re: How on Earth is aspartame legal?? [Re: deCypher]
    #11602588 - 12/07/09 11:35 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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it's not a restriction of freedoms, it's refraining from putting known poisons in foods.




Foods are sold without aspartame.  You are free to purchase these.  Foods are sold with aspartame.  You are also free to purchase these.

You're trying to restrict my freedom to purchase something, clear and simple.  Advocate putting warning labels on foods that contain toxic substances if you want but don't prevent me from buying something if I want to.




you really don't have to keep repeating the same argument over and over. actually, what you're giving us isn't even an argument. what you are giving us is an asinine comeback.

do I think that people should raise their own food to avoid aspartame? yes. will they? no, because they're lazy.

maybe you're right. maybe this is needed to teach people to boycott corporation who use these things.

AGAIN, asking the gov to do anything is NOT the solution. the solution is to get RID of the hierarchical gov system of authority extravaganza.


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Re: How on Earth is aspartame legal?? [Re: future primitive]
    #11602597 - 12/07/09 11:36 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

You're plenty welcome to boycott food companies that put aspartame in their product if you want.  Just don't try to make my purchasing food with aspartame illegal.  :shrug:


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Re: How on Earth is aspartame legal?? [Re: future primitive]
    #11602602 - 12/07/09 11:36 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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will they? no, because they're lazy.



1.) They have the right to be if they so choose
2.) An appeal to mass laziness is no better a justification for infringing on my civil liberties than an appeal to mass stupidity.

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AGAIN, asking the gov to do anything is NOT the solution. the solution is to get RID of the hierarchical gov system of authority extravaganza.



So you're saying that no regulatory agency should have the authority to tell me what foods I can and cannot buy? Sounds like we may have reached common ground
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Re: How on Earth is aspartame legal?? [Re: Entropymancer]
    #11602613 - 12/07/09 11:38 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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Entropymancer said:
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future primitive said:
I haven't insulted anyone. the fact that you're defending these substances speaks volumes about what kind of person you are. a) you're not very smart or b) you feel threatened by discussion and free thought.



zomg! :omgz:

Defending civil liberties = feeling threatened by discussion and free thought ?

Now don't get me wrong, I'm just a barely-functioning imbecile who has difficulty keeping the drool off my chin so I might fall into the former category, but Decypher and DieCommie are are pretty smart dudes.

(also, it's kind of funny to insult people right after you say you haven't insulted anyone... just sayin')



it was more of an observation than an insult. an observation that would not have been made if this complete stranger didn't come to ME and say that the shroomery doesn't need me.

this I would expect from my bible, church, gigantic brain washing screen & football obsessed neighbors, but not from people on a website called the "shroomery". lulz.

just saying.


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Re: How on Earth is aspartame legal?? [Re: future primitive]
    #11602652 - 12/07/09 11:44 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

I can't say I disagree with him. People passionately arguing for taking my civil liberties into a cold dark alley and gangraping them are not really people I like to associate with. Considering the number of people on this site who use or have used scheduled drugs, I'd expect much of the shroomery agrees.

And yet there's always a fresh crowd of prohibitionists cropping up like gnats here, telling people that they shouldn't have the freedom to decide what they put in their own body.

I have no objection to ignorance in principle. But when a specific incidence of ignorance wants to declare me a de facto criminal, you bet your ass I'm gonna object!


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Re: How on Earth is aspartame legal?? [Re: future primitive]
    #11602657 - 12/07/09 11:45 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

do I think that people should raise their own food to avoid aspartame? yes. will they? no, because they're lazy.


it's a lot simpler than that, just don't buy food with aspartame in it. simple isn't it?


AGAIN, asking the gov to do anything is NOT the solution. the solution is to get RID of the hierarchical gov system of authority extravaganza.

explain how you could do that? get rid of authority?

i believe in personal freedom, getting rid of aspartame is doing the opposite.


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Re: How on Earth is aspartame legal?? [Re: Entropymancer]
    #11602672 - 12/07/09 11:48 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

get this through your dense skull. it's not a drug, therefore prohibition does not apply.

I am telling people that they should eat rat poison if they would like. but it shouldnt be in food deceptively packaged and advertised as healthy, when it's basically the opposite.

if you can't understand that you may be slightly retarded.


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Re: How on Earth is aspartame legal?? [Re: elementswrath]
    #11602684 - 12/07/09 11:50 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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do I think that people should raise their own food to avoid aspartame? yes. will they? no, because they're lazy.


it's a lot simpler than that, just don't buy food with aspartame in it. simple isn't it?


AGAIN, asking the gov to do anything is NOT the solution. the solution is to get RID of the hierarchical gov system of authority extravaganza.

explain how you could do that? get rid of authority?

i believe in personal freedom, getting rid of aspartame is doing the opposite.



it's in thousands of products, an depending on the product, there is no choice. it's in every option available.


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Re: How on Earth is aspartame legal?? [Re: deCypher]
    #11602705 - 12/07/09 11:54 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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The lack of concern of other people for their own well-being is not my problem.  Let natural selection work things out.



yeah right on before long we will have a whole species of dietists.


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Re: How on Earth is aspartame legal?? [Re: future primitive]
    #11602707 - 12/07/09 11:54 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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get this through your dense skull. it's not a drug, therefore prohibition does not apply.




Get this through yours: I don't give a fuck if it's a drug or not.  You want to PROHIBIT me from purchasing certain products with no legitimate justification. That makes it PROHIBITION. Geddit?

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I am telling people that they should eat rat poison if they would like. but it should be in food deceptively packaged and advertised as healthy, when it's basically the opposite.



No one has argued that rat poison should be misconstrued as healthy. Your point is invalid. (read back over the last page or two and see what people have had to say about accurate labelling)

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if you can't understand that you may be slightly retarded.



I may be mildly retarded, but you are a fascist.  I'll take a mental handicap over grand-scale delusion (believing one has the moral authority to dictate what other people choose to put in their own bodies) any day.


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Re: How on Earth is aspartame legal?? [Re: Entropymancer]
    #11602719 - 12/07/09 11:56 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

you are EXTREMELY confused. have fun with that.


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Re: How on Earth is aspartame legal?? [Re: future primitive]
    #11602735 - 12/07/09 11:58 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

yes. but even so, the company's don't cram diet coke down your throat.
your choice in the end.
besides, aspartame is mostly in sugary junk foods that try to cut down sugar for commercial interest.

even the alternatives with sugar should be avoided anyways if health is an issue, but we don't go banning sugar. why? because we choose what we eat.

none has the right to ban something because it's just a personal issue.


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Re: How on Earth is aspartame legal?? [Re: future primitive]
    #11602737 - 12/07/09 11:59 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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it's in thousands of products, an depending on the product, there is no choice. it's in every option available.



Then make a product without it and use that fact as the launching pad for an advertising scheme. Demand is the main factor dictating what products are on the market. If you object to that, you're free to move to a fascist or socialist dictatorship, where the distribution of products on the marketplace is determined by the government rather than the consumer.

No one's telling you that you have to buy aspartame-laced products. That's not impinging on your freedom, it's upholding it.

YOU are telling everyone else that they absolutely should NOT be able to. That IS impinging on our freedoms.


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Re: How on Earth is aspartame legal?? [Re: future primitive]
    #11602766 - 12/07/09 12:04 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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you are EXTREMELY confused. have fun with that.



Excellent rebuttal! :hi5:

Let us know if you change your opinion if you're ever convicted of a victimless crime :smirk:


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Re: How on Earth is aspartame legal?? [Re: Entropymancer]
    #11602843 - 12/07/09 12:17 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

FUCK THIS FUCKING THREAD!

You're arguments are convoluted and evasive, and at this point I am going to say good bye to this fucking exercise in tedium!

This is some fucking mushroomtrip shit.

FUCK.

Enjoy the insufferable lack of choices and ways for poisoning yourself in this regulated food market, which does not fit the model for prohibition of drugs, whatsoever.

I am not reading any more bullshit. :bye:


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Re: How on Earth is aspartame legal?? [Re: Epigallo]
    #11602927 - 12/07/09 12:32 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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FUCK THIS FUCKING THREAD!



Don't mind if I do :derfase:

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You're arguments are convoluted and evasive, and at this point I am going to say good bye to this fucking exercise in tedium!




I have no objection to your abstaining from the thread, but I'd hate for you to think my argument is convoluted.  It's actually about as straightforward as they come:  I believe in individual liberty to whatever extent that it does not harm others. That's all.

That seems much less convoluted than appealing to mass ignorance and proposing that the government protect people from themselves (a very slippery slope, that is)

In order to convince me to support food prohibition, you'd first have to convince me that impinging on a person's liberty when they are harming no one can be justified. I don't believe that it can.


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Re: How on Earth is aspartame legal?? [Re: P-O]
    #11603330 - 12/07/09 01:21 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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$ > everything and everyone ...is there moto


This is true. Anything>Diet and exorcise.


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Re: How on Earth is aspartame legal?? [Re: Entropymancer]
    #11603409 - 12/07/09 01:32 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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Entropymancer said:
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bradley said:
FUCK THIS FUCKING THREAD!



Don't mind if I do :derfase:

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You're arguments are convoluted and evasive, and at this point I am going to say good bye to this fucking exercise in tedium!




I have no objection to your abstaining from the thread, but I'd hate for you to think my argument is convoluted.  It's actually about as straightforward as they come:  I believe in individual liberty to whatever extent that it does not harm others. That's all.

That seems much less convoluted than appealing to mass ignorance and proposing that the government protect people from themselves (a very slippery slope, that is)

In order to convince me to support food prohibition, you'd first have to convince me that impinging on a person's liberty when they are harming no one can be justified. I don't believe that it can.



this guy be telling truth, punk ass fool.


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Re: How on Earth is aspartame legal?? [Re: FlickeryVision]
    #11603581 - 12/07/09 01:51 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

so should we let old crazy people eat rat poison then?  or young crazy people?  were does crazy and stupid and sane have the line drawn


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