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OfflineAgent MadHatter
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Why do drug dealers pay for lawyers?
    #11572247 - 12/02/09 07:44 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

This question was sparked from my thread in the pub.

Why would a drug dealer pay for a lawyer WHILE he deals? and how would he get away with this...wouldnt the lawyer know?


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Re: Why do drug dealers pay for lawyers? [Re: Agent MadHatter]
    #11572663 - 12/02/09 08:35 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

People have retainers on lawyers if they have money, so if anything happens their already squared away with a good lawyer.If you really have to ask? Don't you know anything about attorney client privilege? The attorney cannot divulge any information a client discloses to him even if he could why would he? Its his customer.

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Re: Why do drug dealers pay for lawyers? [Re: Agent MadHatter]
    #11573145 - 12/02/09 09:34 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

lawyers can help the higher level dudes steer clear of trouble, point out possible holes and weak points.

havent you ever seen the wire?


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Re: Why do drug dealers pay for lawyers? [Re: 2859558484]
    #11573773 - 12/02/09 10:58 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Nope. Obviously not since I'm asking.

I really never paid much attention to the whole drug trafficing ideals before now.


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Re: Why do drug dealers pay for lawyers? [Re: Agent MadHatter]
    #11574446 - 12/03/09 12:51 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

download some seasons of the wire, it shows a lot about this.


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Re: Why do drug dealers pay for lawyers? [Re: 2859558484]
    #11574465 - 12/03/09 12:56 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Also Mr. White gets a lawyer in Breaking Bad. He gives him tips on money laundering and steering clear of the po po

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Re: Why do drug dealers pay for lawyers? [Re: QuantumMeltdown]
    #11578499 - 12/03/09 05:38 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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Also Mr. White gets a lawyer in Breaking Bad. He gives him tips on money laundering and steering clear of the po po




One of my favorite shows right now. Malcom's dad making meth...who knew?

And yeah, if you are doing something illegal on a large scale then it is advisable to have a good lawyer on retainer; because once the shit hits the fan it would be nice to know that the lawyer issue is already taken care of.


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Re: Why do drug dealers pay for lawyers? [Re: 2859558484]
    #11589168 - 12/05/09 10:19 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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download some seasons of the wire, it shows a lot about this.




More so in the third, fourth, and fifth seasons, particularly the third and fifth if memory serves.

However, the whole series is worth watching, as the show is the single best fictional drama ever to hit television. Taken as a whole, as a fifty-some hour movie, it would easily be one of the best films ever made, and is dead on in almost every respect.

Worth checking out. :yesnod:


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Re: Why do drug dealers pay for lawyers? [Re: numonkei]
    #11592492 - 12/05/09 07:49 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Is it about organized crime? It's not a lot like law and order is it? I hate that show.

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Re: Why do drug dealers pay for lawyers? [Re: QuantumMeltdown]
    #11604658 - 12/07/09 04:16 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

yeah like protected by law the lawyer cant reveal where he/she is receiving funding from.

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Re: Why do drug dealers pay for lawyers? [Re: all_for_war]
    #11625211 - 12/10/09 06:00 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

I would not rely on a tv show for legal info. It just so happens that lawyers are barred from aiding or abetting a crime. They can not directly give tips on money laundering or anything else illegal. It's possible to get around it by carefully wording the questions like "is xyz illegal?" and the lawyer can answer but can't tell the client how to get away with illegal stuff. He can sometimes tell how to do it so it is legal, assuming the cash is really from aunt milly before she died or that you found it in a box buried on your property. But if you say you made it dealing drugs and ask the lawyer to help launder it, if he does he is committing a  crime along with you.

Lawyers are required to inform authorities if their clients plan to commit crimes under certain circumstances. There was a thread about that not too long ago.


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Re: Why do drug dealers pay for lawyers? [Re: Stonehenge]
    #11633036 - 12/11/09 09:24 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Your question was pretty silly. Why do drug dealers pay for lawyers? Probably so when they get in trouble they have a lawyer.

My job offers prepaid legal services too, it's not a bad thing to have just incase anything bad happens. Usually if you wait till it happens its too late or you're money is taken away


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Re: Why do drug dealers pay for lawyers? [Re: Stonehenge]
    #11633785 - 12/11/09 11:54 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

thats why you get a crooked jew lawyer


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Re: Why do drug dealers pay for lawyers? [Re: 2859558484]
    #11636514 - 12/12/09 01:10 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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thats why you get a crooked jew lawyer




Hell yea! Greedy basterd kept my ass out of jail.


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Re: Why do drug dealers pay for lawyers? [Re: Stonehenge]
    #11650031 - 12/14/09 04:45 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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I would not rely on a tv show for legal info. It just so happens that lawyers are barred from aiding or abetting a crime. They can not directly give tips on money laundering or anything else illegal. It's possible to get around it by carefully wording the questions like "is xyz illegal?" and the lawyer can answer but can't tell the client how to get away with illegal stuff. He can sometimes tell how to do it so it is legal, assuming the cash is really from aunt milly before she died or that you found it in a box buried on your property. But if you say you made it dealing drugs and ask the lawyer to help launder it, if he does he is committing a  crime along with you.

Lawyers are required to inform authorities if their clients plan to commit crimes under certain circumstances. There was a thread about that not too long ago.



didnt see this on a tv show. and no lawyers arn't required to report to police if there clients are planning to commit a crime unless soemones life is in danger. And it is near impossible to prosecute a lawyer that is giving there client advise on how to commit crimes unless the client turns on the lawyer and even if that happens who is the court gonna believe, a known criminal or a respected lawyer?

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Re: Why do drug dealers pay for lawyers? [Re: all_for_war]
    #11654020 - 12/15/09 09:00 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Good point about it being hard to prove. I was just saying that it was technically illegal and most lawyers won't participate in illegal things. Every once in a while they send in a ringer with a hidden wire to catch crooked lawyers. Don't tell your attorney anything you don't want to come back to you. There are more exceptions to attorney-client privilege than most people realize.


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Re: Why do drug dealers pay for lawyers? [Re: Stonehenge]
    #11654541 - 12/15/09 11:05 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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Every once in a while they send in a ringer with a hidden wire to catch crooked lawyers.




Got a citation for that or are you just talking out your ass AGAIN?

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Don't tell your attorney anything you don't want to come back to you. There are more exceptions to attorney-client privilege than most people realize.




There are probably less than most people realize.  And you should tell your lawyer everything.

If you're dumb enough to discuss planned murders then you really deserve to get caught.


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Re: Why do drug dealers pay for lawyers? [Re: fastfred]
    #11654722 - 12/15/09 11:37 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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Good point about it being hard to prove. I was just saying that it was technically illegal and most lawyers won't participate in illegal things. Every once in a while they send in a ringer with a hidden wire to catch crooked lawyers. Don't tell your attorney anything you don't want to come back to you. There are more exceptions to attorney-client privilege than most people realize.



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Stonehenge said:
Every once in a while they send in a ringer with a hidden wire to catch crooked lawyers.




Got a citation for that or are you just talking out your ass AGAIN?

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Don't tell your attorney anything you don't want to come back to you. There are more exceptions to attorney-client privilege than most people realize.




There are probably less than most people realize.  And you should tell your lawyer everything.

If you're dumb enough to discuss planned murders then you really deserve to get caught.


-FF



if you really want to ask a lawyer about something illegal and how to get around some laws and what the consenquences of criminal activities, you can just call in anonomously(give fake name) in to a local 24 hour law line or whatever its called that give legal advise. Or you can just call a law office during the day and ask for a lawyer and start asking questions.

But of course make sure you call from a payphone or a prepaid cellhpone

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Re: Why do drug dealers pay for lawyers? [Re: all_for_war]
    #11655747 - 12/15/09 01:58 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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you can just call in anonomously(give fake name) in to a local 24 hour law line or whatever its called that give legal advise.




That's really bad advice for a number of reasons.  For one cops and dispatchers usually don't know jack shit about the law.  Most of what they do know comes from the "crib notes" type pamphlets they give out to cops.

For another it's like asking a crooked gambler what cards to play.


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Re: Why do drug dealers pay for lawyers? [Re: fastfred]
    #11655990 - 12/15/09 02:37 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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you can just call in anonomously(give fake name) in to a local 24 hour law line or whatever its called that give legal advise.




That's really bad advice for a number of reasons.  For one cops and dispatchers usually don't know jack shit about the law.  Most of what they do know comes from the "crib notes" type pamphlets they give out to cops.

For another it's like asking a crooked gambler what cards to play.


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what about dispatchers and cops? wtf? who said anything about that?

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