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Re: debating value of grow kit purchase [Re: Keeky Toe]
    #11568636 - 12/02/09 08:56 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)



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CapZilla said:
not sure what GE and FAE are but i should probably get some.

Citric said:
Your signature is wrong on colonization temps!

GOOD JUDGMENT COMES FROM EXPERIENCE
EXPERIENCE COMES FROM BAD JUDGMENT

ROOM TEMP 70-75 IS BEST FOR COLONIZATION
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Re: debating value of grow kit purchase [Re: noobieshroomie]
    #11568955 - 12/02/09 10:07 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

I recently decided to buy my own supplies at the local wally-world and ended up spending about $300 (so im comulsive...) with a pressure cooker, hepa filter and bunch of stuff I thought I might need (Jars, cleaning/sterilization supplies, lighting, tank heater/air pump, several bins ect.). So in a sense I probably could have used a little direction, but all the supplies are available at walmart and youre probably going to have to stop by there to get a few odds and ends anyway. My advice is to find a kit you like, make a product list and check prices at WM or Ebay.


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Re: debating value of grow kit purchase [Re: jlleeuga]
    #11569137 - 12/02/09 10:46 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

A lot of people just don't care to learn the science of growing.  They want everything provided to them with step-by-step, idiot-proof instructions.

For the life of me, I don't know what they'd be so busy doing that learning a little would be too much work... but for whatever reason, those people do exist, and they're willing to pay more for a kit than to save money and learn.

Kits aren't there to take advantage of the uneducated.... they're there to make money from those who prefer laziness.

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Re: debating value of grow kit purchase [Re: jlleeuga]
    #11569170 - 12/02/09 10:53 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

OK I have everything I need at this point and I'm going to try the shotgun terrarium. Lucky for me I also have a dozen jars nearing full colonization. I have 2 concerns. 
1. I go out of town a lot. So, instead of airing out the terrarium a couple times a day how about if I hook up my air pump thingie. Will that suffice for a few days if I'm not there to tend terrarium?
2. I live in a funky small house only part of the house can be heated in the wintertime. The best place to put the terrarium is on this rack which is like 4 or 5 feet above the floor vent where heat comes out. Would you say this is exceptable? I'm concerned about dry, hot air from a dusty floor vent wafting up from below the terrarium.

MUCH THANKS!!!

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Re: debating value of grow kit purchase [Re: Keeky Toe]
    #11569185 - 12/02/09 10:56 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

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? I'm concerned about dry, hot air from a dusty floor vent wafting up from below the terrarium.




Completely non-optimal, especially if you leave for days at a time.


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Re: debating value of grow kit purchase [Re: Doc_T]
    #11569247 - 12/02/09 11:08 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Non-optimal. Sorry for being a simpleton, did you just say this location for my shotgun is a bad idea?

And what about the air pump on days I can't tend the terrarium, is that a good idea?

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Re: debating value of grow kit purchase [Re: Sillicybin]
    #11569263 - 12/02/09 11:11 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

i'm new...been at this 3 months. have done every combination of TEC aside from augar and building a flo hood...lol. so far i'm about 60 bucks deep for hardwere and 35 in for verm and perl and moss, couple bags of rice, rhy from the brew store and bird seed. PC and jars and i was off...with ideas from here, as i herd said "if you dont know how to drive, don't borrow a car by yourself"
point being, make your own thing...much is not said in TEK that is designed for modification. they are that way for a reason. pony up and do 1 TEC to compleation. then mix and match and fiddle. conditions are different and people too. be the thing you are growing.
like i say, been here 3 months and have had astounding success due to the calm and understanding folks. a lot of the important things i read were years old, thanks to the mods for keeping it available.

just my cent and a half from one learning person to another. good fortune


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it wants me to get involved, but i won't. if i get involved why would i come back? I'll just set here and watch. it will be better for now to stay here. but i sure would like to get involved...

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Re: debating value of grow kit purchase [Re: Keeky Toe]
    #11569353 - 12/02/09 11:31 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

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Non-optimal. Sorry for being a simpleton, did you just say this location for my shotgun is a bad idea?



I was saying it would totally suck. Sorry.

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And what about the air pump on days I can't tend the terrarium, is that a good idea?



Sub-optimal. By which I mean, it's better than nothing.

Edit- if the airflow in the room is good, then the pump really is only there to help provide humidity. Which the perlite should do by itself.
So you'd probably be better off to run a humidifier in the room vs an airpump under the perlite.
You'd be more comfortable too- moist air is warmer and feels nicer.


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Re: debating value of grow kit purchase [Re: Sillicybin]
    #11622067 - 12/10/09 08:44 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

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A lot of people just don't care to learn the science of growing.  They want everything provided to them with step-by-step, idiot-proof instructions.

For the life of me, I don't know what they'd be so busy doing that learning a little would be too much work... but for whatever reason, those people do exist, and they're willing to pay more for a kit than to save money and learn.

Kits aren't there to take advantage of the uneducated.... they're there to make money from those who prefer laziness.




I rather think your generalization to be inaccurate. I don't think that it is from laziness, but more for the sake simplicity. If someone where to say "heres a kit that will help you be more successful in earlier stages of your life..."; would you not accept it? Granted I concede to the fact that many online places rip off the under educated. The kit is not the crutch; its the people.

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Re: debating value of grow kit purchase [Re: Srching4Reality]
    #11628428 - 12/11/09 07:16 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

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I rather think your generalization to be inaccurate. I don't think that it is from laziness, but more for the sake simplicity.




It is very much a generalization;  I also do concede that not everyone would actually think that growing is as enjoyable as I and many others here think it is...  But those who choose to do the minimum possible amount of learning and choose to seek the shortest possible path to getting high are the ones that I would call lazy.

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Re: debating value of grow kit purchase [Re: Sillicybin]
    #11680604 - 12/19/09 12:37 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Yet perception is not reality.:grin:

But thanks to this thread I've decided to start out simple and get some education.

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