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    #11565125 - 12/01/09 06:52 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: debating value of grow kit purchase [Re: Keeky Toe]
    #11565175 - 12/01/09 06:58 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

dude first off never buy something from someone that you can do or build better yourself, second all those fancy ass do this and it will grow that shit is junk and overpriced and anyone selling that shit is a scam artist... just do a little research... on here...


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Re: debating value of grow kit purchase [Re: Keeky Toe]
    #11565190 - 12/01/09 06:59 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

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Hi. I'm newish. I know some stuff, not much, and my concern at the moment is fruiting chamber-orientated (wink). I bought a kit online that has no humidifyer. It's a deal where you float one plastic container on top of another thats filled with water heated with an aquarium heater. It seems like they were raving about it. But then later I read other people online talking about how a humidifyer is necessary for good CO2 exchange.  I got confused. That happens a lot.
Anyway, to get to the point there is water dripping on the cakes and the mushrooms and that f's them up. It didn't seem like this was happening when I opened the container daily but when I went out of town for a few days the shrooms looked water-logged by drippings when I got back. You shouldn't have to open it daily, right?
what do you think about this kind of fruiting chamber set up? Is it a good one or not?




first of all, kit suck. you dont need any heat of any kind if your house is over 70f. The water that drip on the shroom is fine cus it should dry out when you fan then.

And yes I fan and mist mine like 7-8 time per day and thats when im working.

as for the humidity, perlite is the thing.


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Re: debating value of grow kit purchase [Re: Keeky Toe]
    #11565192 - 12/01/09 06:59 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

ah the myco dome:facepalm:
your best bet is to toss it
watch these
http://www.mushroomvideos.com/
BRF tek 1-4
put your cakes in the shotgun fruiting chamber
and hope for the best
sorry its not what you wanted to hear
but ist your best bet

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CapZilla said:
not sure what GE and FAE are but i should probably get some.

Citric said:
Your signature is wrong on colonization temps!

GOOD JUDGMENT COMES FROM EXPERIENCE
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ROOM TEMP 70-75 IS BEST FOR COLONIZATION
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Re: debating value of grow kit purchase [Re: noobieshroomie]
    #11565230 - 12/01/09 07:03 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

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noobieshroomie said:
ah the myco dome:facepalm:
your best bet is to toss it
watch these
http://www.mushroomvideos.com/
BRF tek 1-4
put your cakes in the shotgun fruiting chamber
and hope for the best
sorry its not what you wanted to hear
but ist your best bet

        -noobie-



there should be a post-it that say don't buy kit they suck, lol


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Re: debating value of grow kit purchase [Re: Thyrax]
    #11565295 - 12/01/09 07:10 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

agreed

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CapZilla said:
not sure what GE and FAE are but i should probably get some.

Citric said:
Your signature is wrong on colonization temps!

GOOD JUDGMENT COMES FROM EXPERIENCE
EXPERIENCE COMES FROM BAD JUDGMENT

ROOM TEMP 70-75 IS BEST FOR COLONIZATION
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Re: debating value of grow kit purchase [Re: noobieshroomie]
    #11565724 - 12/01/09 07:58 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks I appreciate it.  OK so to take things in order, first I buy kit online. Later I discover cool website that tells me kit is a waste of time.  D'oh!!
Now I have to start all over.. I'm going to need a heater though it is cold in my house, not above 70. OK I'm going to watch all the videos and stuff and go to shroom school
Love ya

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Re: debating value of grow kit purchase [Re: Keeky Toe]
    #11565758 - 12/01/09 08:02 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

how cold is it in your house? a small heater from wally world in your grow room/incubation room is more than enough to put it up to 70 usually. I use oscilating heaters hooked up to a third party temp control devices originally designed for a reptile terrarium, with a little bit of tweaking ive got it down to where my closets and room are at an ambeint 75 anywhere in the room. (except directly infront of the heater:=)


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Re: debating value of grow kit purchase [Re: Montock]
    #11565862 - 12/01/09 08:13 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

My room temperature is 66 and I have absolutely no problem at all.  You can also buy spores here, I recommend ralphsters and if you mention the strain of the month you get a free syringe.

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Re: debating value of grow kit purchase [Re: Montock]
    #11565994 - 12/01/09 08:29 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

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how cold is it in your house? a small heater from wally world in your grow room/incubation room is more than enough to put it up to 70 usually. I use oscilating heaters hooked up to a third party temp control devices originally designed for a reptile terrarium, with a little bit of tweaking ive got it down to where my closets and room are at an ambeint 75 anywhere in the room. (except directly infront of the heater:=)




yeah honestly you'd better invest in some kind of way to heat your house or at least the room where you grow. So that way all you colonizing jar and all you fc are at the right temp.

The best Fruiting chamber tek is the shotgun terrarium so make some research on this. Look also for pf-tek wich is a good begginer tek for making tek, good luck!


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Re: debating value of grow kit purchase [Re: Keeky Toe]
    #11566017 - 12/01/09 08:32 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

it looks like the only thing that's different about the shotgun terrarium as oppossed to the one I bought is that the shotgun has a bunch of holes drilled in it.  I'm using perlite also.  And I'm using an air pump.  So if the holes are the only real difference why don't I just drill holes in the terrarium I bought?  And why didn't the people who made it?
also, though like I said I need a heater of some kind this part of the house stays cold in the winter.

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Re: debating value of grow kit purchase [Re: Keeky Toe]
    #11566040 - 12/01/09 08:36 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

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it looks like the only thing that's different about the shotgun terrarium as oppossed to the one I bought is that the shotgun has a bunch of holes drilled in it.  I'm using perlite also.  And I'm using an air pump.  So if the holes are the only real difference why don't I just drill holes in the terrarium I bought?  And why didn't the people who made it?
also, though like I said I need a heater of some kind this part of the house stays cold in the winter.




whats different in the shotgun is the way to use it. air pump can be a good ad-on but you don't realy need it. Just mist and fan you cake at least a few time per day and you'll get good result.


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Re: debating value of grow kit purchase [Re: Breakfast Crew]
    #11566061 - 12/01/09 08:38 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Hey..so I am a Newbie too; I was going to buy a grow kit from magicmushrooms.org (off the sponsor list) its the home grow kit for 99.00 euros (bout 150.00 us). The link is: http://www.mrcashop.org/mushroom_shop/mushroom-home-grow-p-41.html My only question is absolutely ALL homegrow kits including this one just  a rip off? or is it that you can just do it cheaper? money is really not that big of deal for me at the moment so I thought it would be an easier way since all this seems complicated and new to me. Please let me know what you think. Thank you:confused::mushroom2:

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Re: debating value of grow kit purchase [Re: Keeky Toe]
    #11566065 - 12/01/09 08:38 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

So it's not a good idea to float the terrarium on heated water?  What if there were holes in the terraium just not on the bottom?

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Re: debating value of grow kit purchase [Re: Keeky Toe]
    #11566074 - 12/01/09 08:39 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

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why don't I just drill holes in the terrarium I bought?




Use it as-is first, then see what you need to do to make it work. Good practice.

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And why didn't the people who made it?




That would take all the fun out of it.


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Re: debating value of grow kit purchase [Re: Keeky Toe]
    #11566084 - 12/01/09 08:41 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

the hole on the botom are the key of the shotgun. Air flow that will come from under will bring the humidity to the surface wich will give you a good rh as well as enough fresh air. Still need to mist and fan for optimal result


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Re: debating value of grow kit purchase [Re: Keeky Toe]
    #11566085 - 12/01/09 08:41 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

do not buy any kits ever ever ever
make it yourself

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CapZilla said:
not sure what GE and FAE are but i should probably get some.

Citric said:
Your signature is wrong on colonization temps!

GOOD JUDGMENT COMES FROM EXPERIENCE
EXPERIENCE COMES FROM BAD JUDGMENT

ROOM TEMP 70-75 IS BEST FOR COLONIZATION
Thank you mycochef

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Re: debating value of grow kit purchase [Re: noobieshroomie]
    #11566099 - 12/01/09 08:42 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

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noobieshroomie said:
do not buy any kits ever ever ever
make it yourself

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You'll learn about 100x more. And by understanding how it works, you can do it again if you want to instead of buying another kit.


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Re: debating value of grow kit purchase [Re: noobieshroomie]
    #11566178 - 12/01/09 08:51 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

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noobieshroomie said:
do not buy any kits ever ever ever
make it yourself

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Agreed, most kits are sold by scum bags taking advantage of uneducated individuals who wish to be self suffiecient, "cough Creeper from Canada F!@#$%!$#%, cough cough"


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Re: debating value of grow kit purchase [Re: Breakfast Crew]
    #11568494 - 12/02/09 08:15 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Re: Ralphsters. How do you know what is the strain of the month?

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