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OfflineLiquidSmoke
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World War 3???
    #1154921 - 12/19/02 12:14 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

You know, I usually don't lurk on this forum, but I've decided to read a couple threads and I noticed this entire "Nuking Iraz will lead to WWIII".



Bull shit.


Don't even start. The entire notion of a "WWIII" is just product of media, a term thrown aroudn to catch people's attentions.


WTF is a WWIII anyways???? People said the Coldwar would ultimately lead to a nuclear fallout and a WWIII. Did it happen? No.


They said The Gulf War would lead to a WWIII with nuclear weapons being used by the U.S. and Iraq.


Bull shit.


Now they're saying us nuking Iraz NOW will lead to WWIII. You guys have seen "Terminator 2" once too many times.



And on the topic of war on Iraq, I will say. Yes, it is unnecessary. Yes, it is just a waste of money time and lives.

But just remember. This is the kinda shit we gotta deal with living in a Capitolist society. Yes we ARE going there for oil.

It is a bunch of bullshit, but hey, watchoo gonna do against a legislature and executive that is all GOP.



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Re: World War 3??? [Re: LiquidSmoke]
    #1155642 - 12/19/02 05:20 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

WWIII would just make me think of the environment. It would be uninhabitable.

Of course, if you think about it, at the rate we're going its going to be uninhabitable soon enough...


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Re: World War 3??? [Re: LiquidSmoke]
    #1156217 - 12/19/02 09:11 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

I think you're wrong. Here's why.

The globalization of the world's economy and it's political structure lend towards a possible World War conflict whenever there is a potential for War, no matter where and who is involved.

Examining the definition of a World War, in general, one will find a definition such as this, from www.dictionary.com
In reply to:

A war in which the major nations of the world are involved



This is somewhat of an ambiguous statement. Turning to Merriam-Webster we get:
In reply to:

a war engaged in by all or most of the principal nations of the world.




Examining wars of the past, while some may not fit M-W's definition of a World War, many did in fact involve more than one principal nation. Examining the World, say 300 years ago, reveals the extent, or lack thereof, of globalization. From that one could certainly argue any of the Wars which the then forming United States were involved in, were World Wars.

As globalization progresses from 300 y.a., we see an increase in the interest in which foreign nations take in two warring countries. An example of this would be the American Civil War. It cannot be denied that the French, somewhat the English, and to a lesser extent, the majority of the principal nations of Europe, took an active interest in the Confederate States. Much of Europe relied on Southern cotton, as well as Tobacco. Furthermore, England and France more easily identified with the aristocratic South, rather than the lower class industrial North. While neither France nor England ever took part in the war itself, due potentially to the fact that both nations had outlawed slavery, their interest and near involvement in the Southern war effort is significant.

Jumping ahead 137+ years we see a highly globalized world. I received this email the other day, which I believe is certainly representational of things today.

"Question: What is the height of globalization?

Answer: Princess Diana's death

Question: How come?

Answer: An English princess with an Egyptian boyfriend crashes in a French tunnel, driving a German car with a Dutch engine, driven by a Belgian who was high on Scottish whiskey, followed closely by Italian Paparazzi, on Japanese motorcycles, treated by an American doctor, using Brazilian medicines! And this is sent to you by a Malaysian, using Bill Gates' technology which he stole from the Japanese. And you are probably reading this on one of the IBM clones that use Taiwanese-made chips, and Korean made monitors, assembled by Bangladeshi workers in a Singapore plant, transported by lorries driven by Indians, hijacked by Indonesians and finally sold to you by Chinamen!
That, my friend, is Globalization!!!"


A country's interest are no longer involved in just itself or just a few nations, but all over the world. You can bet that if country A feels that country B's involvement in a war threatens country A's investments and holdings in country B, country A will get involved. This leads to a domino effect of countries jumping in and contributing towards the war efforts of country A or B in some way.

Concidering today's world, George Washington's reasons for beleving in isoationism were not unfounded.


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Re: World War 3??? [Re: LiquidSmoke]
    #1156259 - 12/19/02 09:25 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

IMO World War III won't occur until Russia invades the middle east. And in a new Gulf War it's just not going to happen.


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Re: World War 3??? [Re: I_Fart_Blue]
    #1156367 - 12/19/02 10:10 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

My question to you.



WHO THE HELL GETS "HIGH" OFF OF ALCOHOL???


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Re: World War 3??? [Re: LiquidSmoke]
    #1156386 - 12/19/02 10:16 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

I have been high on alcohol many a time.

And as for world war 3, who know? none of us do for sure. But id have to say the potential for a massive escalation of the situation is definitely there.

It wont take much to trigger it, just an obscene act of terrorism.


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Re: World War 3??? [Re: LiquidSmoke]
    #1156658 - 12/20/02 01:14 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

truth is stranger than fiction ya know.


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Re: World War 3??? [Re: LiquidSmoke]
    #1156721 - 12/20/02 02:42 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Several countries opose our actions in Iraq and Several others like Japan, Russia and China have lots of money vested in programs to better Iraq and the Iraqi people... If we go in and nuke then and destroy the years of hard work waste the billions of dollars that these countries have put into Iraq then were slitting our own throat and making enemies that we dont need...

I wish I could find it but about 4 months ago a GREAT La Times article came out about the REAL cost of the war with Iraq... It laid out the investments that other countries, even our allies have put into the region and what it would really cost us in the long run if we destroyed it all...

It was an artical that made one think that were the only ones wanting to destroy the place out of a world full of countries trying to make it better and we would be in debt to them for decades if we decide to gon in shooting....


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Re: World War 3??? [Re: GabbaDj]
    #1156746 - 12/20/02 03:09 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

****Several others like Japan, Russia and China have lots of money vested in programs to better Iraq and the Iraqi people... ****

I'm not saying you're wrong but what are these programs?


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Re: World War 3??? [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1156864 - 12/20/02 04:28 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Im not sure but if I remember right, Russia has a nuclear power program going on. (which troubles us ALOT). Much of the other programs are agricultural and social. Desalinization plants are being built and entire cities are being funded by some countries. then theirs all the training and time invested by other countries....

You know, the things that we do to thirds world countries that we support...

the US and Britain seem to be the only people oposeing doing something positive in the region to try and make thing better before going in with the bomb...

I guess its because only the US knows just exactly we sold them over the past decades that they might use against us...


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Re: World War 3??? [Re: LiquidSmoke]
    #1157049 - 12/20/02 06:07 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

The first world war happened, so did the second one, doesn't seem like that much of a stretch for a third one to occur. I'm not sure if the balance of power is such that a world war could be caused as a result of the current situation, but it is plausible.


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Re: World War 3??? [Re: Phluck]
    #1158405 - 12/20/02 04:58 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

No, it isn't.


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Re: World War 3??? [Re: LiquidSmoke]
    #1159614 - 12/21/02 07:26 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

I think your wrong dude!

A: World War III has been planned for a long time! Its comeing and will happen!

B: I think its nessisary for WWIII to happen, because it going to be ONE HELL OF A SHOW!

Here's WWIII :

UFO's, Anti-christ, racism, pure evil/hate, hitler, stalin, roman empire, all religon, mind control, corperate enslavment of the world, New World Order, the most unbelieveable advanced technologys humans ever saw will be pulled out in this war, drugs, spirituallity, weather control.

Take all that and mix it up, and you have World War III

After this one, humans will finally live free!!!!!!


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Re: World War 3??? [Re: Phluck]
    #1159640 - 12/21/02 07:58 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

The difference between the first two world wars and a nuclear one is economic. Conventional wars are usually fought for economic reasons. It's doubtful a nuclear war could make much profit for the elite, therefore it's pretty unlikely.


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Re: World War 3??? [Re: Xlea321]
    #1159964 - 12/21/02 11:15 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

We won't have a global nuclear war cus, we have technology so advanced we could stop it.

Ever heard of HAARP? So basically if we wanted to nuke a city, we could just do it, and if they wanted to retailate, we a have global sat system that could stop it!

It doesn't matter if they launch ever fucking thing they got, haarp tech, is soo profound, we would zap everyone of them, and not a one would make it here!!!!!


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