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Help with oral DMT freebase dosage
    #11540916 - 11/28/09 01:54 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Hallo all.

I am now rather interested in oral DMT freebase. What is a good dose? I am using syrian rue as an MAOI. I want a strong visual trip, but one in which I will be able to move if I have to.

I have tried oral DMT twice so far, the first time was a waste of DMT (I think I screwed up the MAOI) and the second I don't remember.

How much rue should I take?(I'm looking for the minimum!) Any good preparations?


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Re: Help with oral DMT freebase dosage [Re: arekusu]
    #11541067 - 11/28/09 03:04 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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arekusu said:
Hallo all.

I am now rather interested in oral DMT freebase. What is a good dose? I am using syrian rue as an MAOI. I want a strong visual trip, but one in which I will be able to move if I have to.

I have tried oral DMT twice so far, the first time was a waste of DMT (I think I screwed up the MAOI) and the second I don't remember.

How much rue should I take?(I'm looking for the minimum!) Any good preparations?




I'm not too familiar with oral DMT dosage levels. I just want to point out the fact that DMT freebase is very insoluble in water. What you should do is, weigh out the amount of freebase DMT you plan on consuming and then turn it into a water soluble form, such as DMT acetate. This is probably the reason why your other oral DMT attempts didn't work out. DMT should be in a water soluble salt form for oral consumption. You can turn freebase DMT into DMT acetate with plain white vinegar (acetic acid). Just weigh out a dose of DMT and mix it with a small amount of vinegar until the DMT fully dissolves. Add more vinegar to the solution if needed. I would let the DMT sit in the vinegar for an hour or two before ingesting. You'll probably want to mix the DMT/vinegar with some other drink to cover up the taste.


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Re: Help with oral DMT freebase dosage [Re: arekusu]
    #11541245 - 11/28/09 05:38 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

You want your Freebase to be a salt, and this can be done by adding it to a citric acid, such as fruit juice... Orange Juice, Lemon Juice, Lime Juice, most of those juices with citric acid are good.

Use like a shot glass of it. Just dissolve the DMT into the juice.

This will turn it into DMT Citrate. Which will be easier and faster absorbed.

And for some reason.. the dosage varies. SOme people can take 50 mg and be completely immersed in the experience. Other require upwards of 250 mg.

I would suggest taking 50 mg to start with, and if you're not where you want to be take 50 more.

As far as the MAOI goes, 3 grams of Syrian Rue should be efficient. I would either brew a tea with it by crushing the seeds... or some people actually consume the seeds, but I hear this causes much nausea.


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Re: Help with oral DMT freebase dosage [Re: I 3nj0y Pi3]
    #11541491 - 11/28/09 08:08 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

how long does dmt experiance last?? if smoked ?if injested orally ??


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Re: Help with oral DMT freebase dosage [Re: nachohippie]
    #11541543 - 11/28/09 08:28 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

If smoked, anywhere between 5 to 20 minutes depending on dose.

Oral, depends on how you take it...

Pharmahuasca lasts like maybe an hour or so, maybe longer.
Ayahuasca can last, I hear, anywhere from 3 hours to a total of like 12 hours... depending on dose. For the most part, people say about 6 hours.


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Re: Help with oral DMT freebase dosage [Re: I 3nj0y Pi3]
    #11541900 - 11/28/09 09:59 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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NlightNd1 said:
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arekusu said:
Hallo all.

I am now rather interested in oral DMT freebase. What is a good dose? I am using syrian rue as an MAOI. I want a strong visual trip, but one in which I will be able to move if I have to.

I have tried oral DMT twice so far, the first time was a waste of DMT (I think I screwed up the MAOI) and the second I don't remember.

How much rue should I take?(I'm looking for the minimum!) Any good preparations?




I'm not too familiar with oral DMT dosage levels. I just want to point out the fact that DMT freebase is very insoluble in water. What you should do is, weigh out the amount of freebase DMT you plan on consuming and then turn it into a water soluble form, such as DMT acetate. This is probably the reason why your other oral DMT attempts didn't work out. DMT should be in a water soluble salt form for oral consumption. You can turn freebase DMT into DMT acetate with plain white vinegar (acetic acid). Just weigh out a dose of DMT and mix it with a small amount of vinegar until the DMT fully dissolves. Add more vinegar to the solution if needed. I would let the DMT sit in the vinegar for an hour or two before ingesting. You'll probably want to mix the DMT/vinegar with some other drink to cover up the taste.




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I 3nj0y Pi3 said:
You want your Freebase to be a salt, and this can be done by adding it to a citric acid, such as fruit juice... Orange Juice, Lemon Juice, Lime Juice, most of those juices with citric acid are good.

Use like a shot glass of it. Just dissolve the DMT into the juice.

This will turn it into DMT Citrate. Which will be easier and faster absorbed.

And for some reason.. the dosage varies. SOme people can take 50 mg and be completely immersed in the experience. Other require upwards of 250 mg.

I would suggest taking 50 mg to start with, and if you're not where you want to be take 50 more.

As far as the MAOI goes, 3 grams of Syrian Rue should be efficient. I would either brew a tea with it by crushing the seeds... or some people actually consume the seeds, but I hear this causes much nausea.




Both very wrong. Freebase DMT works absolutely fine when eaten with an MAOI. True some people find other forms to be less nauseating but I really think it makes not much difference having used both DMT Fumarate and DMT Freebase for oral DMT experiences. You can of course throw some DMT freebase into vinegar to get DMT acetate, or some orange juice to get DMT Citrate, or some coca cola to get DMT Phosphate, if you're going to do one, go with the cola as I have heard that DMT Phosphate is the least nauseating of all the salts, just what I heard though.

As far as the MAOI goes, I hate Rue though it is effective that's for sure. Pure harmala alks or Moclobemide is the way to go. For harmala alks, 150mg's Tetrahydroharmine mixed with a 20-30mg mix of harmine and harmaline is a great MAOI, and if you use a pharmaceutical MAOI like Moclobemide you should at least take 150mg's though I hear some people use up to 300mg's.


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Edited by Dr.Myco87 (11/28/09 10:07 AM)


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Re: Help with oral DMT freebase dosage [Re: Dr.Myco87]
    #11543521 - 11/28/09 03:17 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

well I'm not very wrong, since I said you want it to be. i didn't say it had to be. I have never ate DMT Freebase, so I wouldn't know if it's as effective. I simply said that most people say that the salt is easier and faster absorbed.

.. but either freakin' way... it's the same result in the end.
Jesus with the technicalities


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Re: Help with oral DMT freebase dosage [Re: I 3nj0y Pi3]
    #11544138 - 11/28/09 04:51 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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I 3nj0y Pi3 said:
well I'm not very wrong, since I said you want it to be. i didn't say it had to be. I have never ate DMT Freebase, so I wouldn't know if it's as effective. I simply said that most people say that the salt is easier and faster absorbed.

.. but either freakin' way... it's the same result in the end.
Jesus with the technicalities




Your wrong attempting to answer a question for somebody when you dont have any firsthand experience yourself. The question was about oral DMT freebase. You are quoted above saying you have never eaten DMT freebase. Dr.Myco87 always seems to have outstanding input regarding the subject of DMT. Jesus with the technicalities? Technicalities in this arena are very important in extracting and consuming and can mean the difference in under or over dosing or worse yet poisoning yourself or creating an accident where somebody gets injured or killed.

You were not very wrong with regards to a topic where you really NEED to be very RIGHT. You really need to be absolutely right with extraction processes and consumption. Right or WRONG, either freakin way its not the same in the end. If you have no first hand experience, maybe you should get some. first hand experience will help you to understand how you come across to someone who does. 

The most important point to understand here is, accuracy of information to those who seek it. Nothing beats experience, which you dont seen to have allot of regarding this topic.


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Re: Help with oral DMT freebase dosage [Re: Ice House Shaman]
    #11544195 - 11/28/09 04:58 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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Ice House Shaman said:
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I 3nj0y Pi3 said:
well I'm not very wrong, since I said you want it to be. i didn't say it had to be. I have never ate DMT Freebase, so I wouldn't know if it's as effective. I simply said that most people say that the salt is easier and faster absorbed.

.. but either freakin' way... it's the same result in the end.
Jesus with the technicalities




Your wrong attempting to answer a question for somebody when you dont have any firsthand experience yourself. The question was about oral DMT freebase. You are quoted above saying you have never eaten DMT freebase. Dr.Myco87 always seems to have outstanding input regarding the subject of DMT. Jesus with the technicalities? Technicalities in this arena are very important in extracting and consuming and can mean the difference in under or over dosing or worse yet poisoning yourself or creating an accident where somebody gets injured or killed.

You were not very wrong with regards to a topic where you really NEED to be very RIGHT. You really need to be absolutely right with extraction processes and consumption. Right or WRONG, either freakin way its not the same in the end. If you have no first hand experience, maybe you should get some. first hand experience will help you to understand how you come across to someone who does. 

The most important point to understand here is, accuracy of information to those who seek it. Nothing beats experience, which you dont seen to have allot of regarding this topic.




Thanks for having my back man:thumbup:, and yes first-hand experience is the only way to truly be able to understand something.


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Re: Help with oral DMT freebase dosage [Re: Dr.Myco87]
    #11544288 - 11/28/09 05:09 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

You all are some straight up dick heads on this forum.


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Re: Help with oral DMT freebase dosage [Re: I 3nj0y Pi3]
    #11544611 - 11/28/09 06:00 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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I 3nj0y Pi3 said:
You all are some straight up dick heads on this forum.




No dude, not at all, I actually pride myself on helping as many people as possible, but as Ice House mentioned, details are very important and you really need first hand experience to really be able to understand what you're saying. If you haven't had any experience than how are you going to say this or that works better, it's not really possible. All I was saying was that Freebase DMT will do just as much for you as any of the salts will, you might have a little more nausea but honestly I can't say definitively which is less nauseating, the main thing to worry about is the MAOI you're taking, the DMT will do it's job fine if you just throw it down the hatch.


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