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OfflineBaby_Hitler
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Kurdistan / Israel... Good idea / Bad idea?
    #1152513 - 12/18/02 03:49 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

Hey all you people who have an opinion on Israel, how do you feel about giving the Kurds a country.

Where should it go? Turkey? Iraq?

Don't they deserve a country as much as the Israelites?


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Re: Kurdistan / Israel... Good idea / Bad idea? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1152673 - 12/18/02 04:59 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

Where should it go?

Palestine.. uh, Isreal. No wait... Antarctica, no Saudi Arabia. Ah shit, I don't know.


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Re: Kurdistan / Israel... Good idea / Bad idea? [Re: Evolving]
    #1152708 - 12/18/02 05:13 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

Actually, I'm kind of partial to Northern Iraq.


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Re: Kurdistan / Israel... Good idea / Bad idea? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1152772 - 12/18/02 05:40 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

I still don't understand why nobody likes Kurds. That has not once been explained anywhere I've seen. Granted, I haven't really looked..


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Re: Kurdistan / Israel... Good idea / Bad idea? [Re: PjS]
    #1152801 - 12/18/02 05:49 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

Generally the people who do not like Kurds dislike them because they themselves are not Kurdish.


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Re: Kurdistan / Israel... Good idea / Bad idea? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1153148 - 12/18/02 08:08 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: Kurdistan / Israel... Good idea / Bad idea? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1153316 - 12/18/02 11:25 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

give them california...


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Re: Kurdistan / Israel... Good idea / Bad idea? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1153328 - 12/18/02 11:43 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

They should get part of Turkey and part of Iraq. But what is fair was never important in politics.

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Re: Kurdistan / Israel... Good idea / Bad idea? [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1154020 - 12/19/02 05:55 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

Too late. The Mexicans are already here.


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Re: Kurdistan / Israel... Good idea / Bad idea? [Re: silversoul7]
    #1155616 - 12/19/02 03:02 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

they'll have to learn to share then...............


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Re: Kurdistan / Israel... Good idea / Bad idea? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1169092 - 12/25/02 06:05 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

What constitutes a Kurd? Are we talking about people using the kurdish language, or are we to add those who have lost their language due to Turkish school policy? Would iraqi, iranian and turkish kurds be able to get along if they had a country to share? What about the arabs, persians, christian... whatever minorities that already live in the Kurdistan to be?
Shall all ethnic groups be given countries of their own? Is there an end to the number of countries we (UN, EU, US... who would make the decisions?) would need to create?
Maybe my country should be divided between Swedes, Samish, Finnishspeaking and Gypsies. Should the finnishspeaking gypsies be placed among the finnishspeaking up north or with the other (romani speaking) gypsies (...of whom many don't consider the finnishspeaking gypsies as "real gypsies")?
I think that instead of creating new countries, that energy should be used to improve the situation for minorities in their current countries. example: Improving the Kurds situation (among other human rights issues) should be set as a condition for Turkeys entry into the EU.

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Re: Kurdistan / Israel... Good idea / Bad idea? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1176139 - 12/28/02 08:07 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

Why should the United States decide where the boundries of other countries on the other side of the world are drawn? I think we should butt out.

Now with that said. If we're going to be determining these things for the unwashed massed in the middle east then I have an opinion too!

Expand the territories of Israel to the boundries Solomon's Kingdom.


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