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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: badman]
    #12452554 - 04/25/10 06:34 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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http://www.barnitts.co.uk/products/details/9382.html
Im thinking of these any one used them for cake making.




I bought a bunch of those (mine are a less tapered but same size, from the same shop).  I found them to be a bit too small for cakes.  I'm sticking with Sainsbury half-pint drinking glasses with foil lids, though the Bonne Maman jars look good too.

These jars are OK for making grain LCs though.  I could probably give you a few (unused) to try out as I bought 2 dozen and it's too many.


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: andymc]
    #12452571 - 04/25/10 06:49 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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When the go all white, you gotta wait a week anyway :thumbup:

That verm is probably from the dry verm barrier, try not to more the jars too much as disturbance of the barrier leads to unhappiness. A few drops of water are fine, its a minor.


http://www.barnitts.co.uk/products/details/9382.html
I'm thinking of these any one used them for cake making.




Well I have a few that are mostly all white except for a bit on the bottom center. Almost thought about turning the jar over to let it get off the glass and maybe dry a tiny bit. Not so much dry, but more like get standing water off of it. And Yeah I already lost one to contam, so I try to move as little as possible.

And I almost bought those jars, then went around the shops and found jam at Morrison's for £1.59 a jar. Jars just like the Bonne Maman jars, except they have a black lid. Its even organic and fair trade, Right up my alley :wink::thumbup:
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http://www.barnitts.co.uk/products/details/9382.html
I'm thinking of these any one used them for cake making.




I bought a bunch of those (mine are a less tapered but same size, from the same shop).  I found them to be a bit too small for cakes.  I'm sticking with Sainsbury half-pint drinking glasses with foil lids, though the Bonne Maman jars look good too.

These jars are OK for making grain LCs though.  I could probably give you a few (unused) to try out as I bought 2 dozen and it's too many.




Your a proper nice guy Andymc.

I'm going to do a grain LC in 250 ml salsa jars. fit nice in the mini fridge :P Just trying to decide on some lids now. I got silicone but no filter material. Thinking I might just go B and Q  and get a tyvek suit, and use that.


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: Base Icks]
    #12454547 - 04/25/10 03:45 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks for the offer, Ill try sainsburys, pints are taking longer than i remember. I dont know what i was thinking with jars
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glasses FTW

If the B&Q ones are Du pont tyvek then get them if not i personally wouldnt trust them :shrug:


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: badman]
    #12454673 - 04/25/10 04:07 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

These are the ones I use, I think (very similar, anyway).  4 for £5, and with a decent dry verm layer they still give you a nice-sized cake:

http://www.sainsburys.co.uk/sol/shop/home_and_garden/dining_room/117459923_tu_tumblers_4pack.html?hnav=4294960482


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: andymc]
    #12457972 - 04/26/10 03:12 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Those look pretty posh andymc :wink:
Cant you get the like "smart Price" ones for like 80p or something?


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: Base Icks]
    #12458004 - 04/26/10 03:31 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Only the very best for my PF cakes, man :lol:


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: andymc]
    #12458024 - 04/26/10 03:44 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Hey guys, bit off topic again but how do you guys feel about growing outdoors with cyan's or az's? Seems like its possible? They're wood lovers though. I got piles of horse poo mixed with straw and wood shavings. Was wondering if there's any opportunity to use it? Would be wicked!! Seems like when using poo you have to at least pasteurize it though?

Thoughts?


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: Base Icks]
    #12458359 - 04/26/10 07:24 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

So i think I'm gonna get a proper tyvek xl suit on ebay, £3.50 doesn't sound too bad :laugh:. Was wondering about filter disks or patches, and injection ports. Think I've seen others use them. I think they're made out of rubber? Any one have any leads on them?


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: Base Icks]
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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: Base Icks]
    #12463533 - 04/27/10 02:52 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

for the ultra cheap I made BRF cakes with dry verm barrier in plastic party cups. You need the slightly more heavy duty ones with a number 6 in the recycle logo. These do not melt in a PC, they distort slightly but dont melt. You can pick up 50 or so in tesco for a few pounds.

Ive also used kids tuppaware type cups without any probs other then the lids melted but the cups didnt.

And standard cheapo glasses, they work fine also.





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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: Fleadh]
    #12469742 - 04/28/10 02:04 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

the half pint glasses you get from most pubs are the best ive found,and you can get them from most cheap shops like poundstracher or morrissons or asda,seriously ther like £2 for 4 and they are wide at the top,ive fount my cakes colonise realy quick in them(althow the type of glass may not be the reason)pluss the cakes just fall out of them with no trouble at all.

i used to think the tin foil on top would let in contams but non of my glasses has ever contamed,ive only ever had problems when using horse dung in plastic tubs.

even better than the half pint glasses tho ive found are ones i have that hold about a 3rd of a pint,they are origonaly whiskey glasses,these babys colonise in no time,pluss i get 3 flushes and they seem to produce not that mutch less than the half pint ones.


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: shponglecybin]
    #12469823 - 04/28/10 02:36 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

btw guys i havent started growing this year as my house is still a bit cold(damn scottish weather,lol)anyway im wondering if any of you have any good ideas for keeping the jars at a reasonable temp while colonising.

last year i was in a differant house and had a cupboard where all the hot pipes past thrue wich was permanently at the wright temt for colonising no matter the time of year.

well the house im in now is also gas centeral heating but to keep it on permenantly would cost a small fortune and just wouldnt be worth the while in growing.

any ideas folks?ive heard heat mats are a no no as they dry the cakes out at the bottom.on top of a fridge(wich is recomended in grow guides)is a bit of a waste of time also(go ahead try it,i garentee it wont keep your jars at the write temp,not in this country anyway).

one idea ive had is,now bare with me here as i dont even know if they exist.i was thinking about getting a fish tank with a water heater that the temp can be controled and the jars could be submerged halfway in the water.

can the temp be controled in fish tanks?surely different types of fish need diferent temps?instead of having jars resting on heat mats(which would only provid heat from one angle,i would have a half pint jar submerged in heat controled water up to the bottom of the dry verm barrier,this would provid a nice snug heat all aroun the jar.

just a thaught,what do you all think.

i could just wait a month until the temp heats up naturaly but where would be the fun in that,lol,pluss if it would mean i could grow thrue the winter.

failing the fish tank method i think i will just have to fork outthe doe for an incubator(a bit on the pricey side thow,unless anyone has any good ides for making one on the cheap.

your opinions would be great folks.


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: shponglecybin]
    #12469878 - 04/28/10 03:04 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

The method you are aiming for is widly used but slightly different to what you describe. You put water in one bucket with a fishtank heater and put another bucket into that one on bricks or something. (similar idea to how you melt chocolate). The two buckets are then covered in a blanket or similar whiel colonising. If you search for 'incubator' here you'll find pics.


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: Fleadh]
    #12469976 - 04/28/10 04:36 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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The method you are aiming for is widly used but slightly different to what you describe. You put water in one bucket with a fishtank heater and put another bucket into that one on bricks or something. (similar idea to how you melt chocolate). The two buckets are then covered in a blanket or similar whiel colonising. If you search for 'incubator' here you'll find pics.




nice one fleadh,i know what u mean,its the same methode i use for unsticking the gunk at the bottom of jars of mimosa,only i use a pot and not a bucket.

il have a search tonight and see if i can get some pics of other folks set-ups for insperation.

i think the only problem il have is getting the right heater for the job,it would be good if i could get one where the temp could be controled.

lets say i got one that could raise the temp to say80 for talking sake,by the time the heat radiates thrue the water,bucket,then jars,it may only be radiating the substrate at say 70 for talking sake.obviously this would be to cool and would take forever for the jars to colonise,so i think im gona have to do a bit of shopping around for the right heater.

on another note,i just popped down to my local organic food store ther and got a 3kg bag of brf for £7.19,exelent value for money,this will do plenty jars,i shouldnt have to buy anymore this summer anyway.
i found a shop to that sells bags of verm for a fiver so im gonna hit that after work today,if all goes to plan and i can get a bottle of sterilised water(to save time making my own)i could have a syringe made up and jars inoculated by this eavning,ahh happy days.


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: shponglecybin]
    #12470929 - 04/28/10 11:07 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Think your looking for a tit incubator. Not for sure. I'm assuming its a Tub in Tub incubator. With water in the bottom one with a tank heater in it. Fish tank heaters should be adjustable. Get it to the temp you want it first then put stuff in it I would think. If TiT is tub in tub and works how I guessed let me know :tongue2:


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: Base Icks]
    #12471417 - 04/28/10 12:43 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

cheers for the tips folks,im gonna have a search for pics of these tit incubators to see what type would be best for me.


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: shponglecybin]
    #12472017 - 04/28/10 02:31 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

if anyone has the "Deluxe glass Preserving Jars 1000g" from Barnitts in Ego's first post could you let me know how tall they are and the diameter if you can be bothered pleasssseeeee :thumbup:


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: dicky21]
    #12472118 - 04/28/10 02:47 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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if anyone has the "Deluxe glass Preserving Jars 1000g" from Barnitts in Ego's first post could you let me know how tall they are and the diameter if you can be bothered pleasssseeeee :thumbup:




Assuming it's this one: http://www.barnitts.co.uk/products/details/8390.html then approx 17.5cm tall by 9.5cm wide, 31.5cm diameter.


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: andymc]
    #12472195 - 04/28/10 03:01 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Yea those are the ones. Thanks andy. Too big for my PC me thinks :thumbdown:

Ill have to go with the 500g ones for my grain then


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Re: Presenting-A guide to grow supplies sources in the UK [Re: andymc]
    #12472266 - 04/28/10 03:15 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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31.5cm diameter.




haha thats a pretty big diameter :curbyourenthusiasm:


AAHHHHHH i only want like 4 jars. They want like £1,000,000 postage :oldman:


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