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Invisible1stimer
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catholicism
    #1152726 - 12/18/02 07:21 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

recently the catholic church has backed down from its hard line stance that all non catholics will go to hell and said that jew can go to heaven too. so if you go to hell or not is in the hands of the church? also if jew can go to heaven and jews say that you dont have to be jewish to go to heaven then does that mean all the people that jews deam go to heaven go to catholic heaven? Also if religious text isnt to be taken literally then whats the point of listening to god if hes just joking all the time?


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Anonymous

Re: catholicism [Re: 1stimer]
    #1152857 - 12/18/02 08:11 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

organized religion is stupid
whatever happens to people, is exactly what would have happened to them before the catholic church changed its official position


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OfflineMurex
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Re: catholicism [Re: 1stimer]
    #1152863 - 12/18/02 08:14 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Also if religious text isnt to be taken literally then whats the point of listening to god if hes just joking all the time?

Because it's funny.  :grin:


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What if everything around you
Isn't quite as it seems?
What if all the world you think you know,
Is an elaborate dream?
And if you look at your reflection,
Is it all you want it to be?



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Re: catholicism [Re: 1stimer]
    #1153235 - 12/18/02 11:43 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Actually, I believe the Pope said (semi?)recently that ALL Jews go to Heaven, because they are God's chosen people.


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Re: catholicism [Re: 1stimer]
    #1153268 - 12/19/02 12:26 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

The Catholic religon has got to be the CLOSEST thing to a cult in todays society of "accepted organized religons". Fuck religon, and especially fuck the catholics.

I'm sorry if I've offended anyone - to each their own, but I don't agree with religon.


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Re: catholicism [Re: nubious]
    #1153280 - 12/19/02 12:43 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Catholicism IS a cult, lol. imagine if they introduced it now. would it become such a popular religion? No. It would be an underground terrorist cult. The only different between Catholocism and an underground terrorist cult is that Catholocism is legal.
Maybe the current fukt up state of the church is just because of politics and crap from way back in the day, and its carried on forever.... i'm sure when they introduced christianity, it wasnt about blowing up abortion centers


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Children, What's the sound,
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Re: catholicism [Re: SnuffelzFurever]
    #1153292 - 12/19/02 12:59 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Sadly, you said it!
I was just going to say the same thing, IS a cult.

And if god has chosen people, he is too cool to choose the pope and his minions. They would make heaven a dull ass place.


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Anonymous

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    #1154380 - 12/19/02 09:40 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: catholicism [Re: ]
    #1155455 - 12/19/02 04:04 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

its not a cult



All organized religion is a "cult"


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Re: catholicism [Re: ]
    #1155631 - 12/19/02 05:08 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

In reply to:

its not a cult





Cult:

A system or community of religious worship and ritual.

And the answer is yes it is just as much a cult as the Israelis are terrorists. It all depends on who is distorting the truth enough to convince the majority.


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Re: catholicism [Re: 1stimer]
    #1155656 - 12/19/02 05:34 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

In reply to:

recently the catholic church has backed down from its hard line stance that all non catholics will go to hell and said that jew can go to heaven too.



Hmmm, I went to Catholic school from 5 years of age to 18 years of age, that is not what I was taught (that all non Catholics will go to hell). Rather, I was told it was more important what kind of life a person lived, how he/she treated other people, for this is the essence of Christ's teachings.


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To call humans 'rational beings' does injustice to the term, 'rational.'  Humans are capable of rational thought, but it is not their essence.  Humans are animals, beasts with complex brains.  Humans, more often than not, utilize their cerebrum to rationalize what their primal instincts, their preconceived notions, and their emotional desires have presented as goals - humans are rationalizing beings.


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Re: catholicism [Re: Evolving]
    #1156745 - 12/20/02 03:08 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

(from NPR: priest speaking to assembly at a catholic girls' school in austria quite a few years ago)
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"girls, heaven is something like this auditorium:
the good catholics have the good seats in the front rows, the so-so catholics fill up the rest of the seats, and the good lutherans have the standing room only at the back."
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:wink:
~


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old enough to know better
not old enough to care


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Re: catholicism [Re: 1stimer]
    #1157386 - 12/20/02 08:34 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

when i think of catholicism, 1 thing comes to mind

1. priests molesting innocent boys whos only crime was their fucking parents forcing 'their' religion. makes me fucking sick, you here storys all the time, to where its so common it is in jokes, its written off as 'another one'



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Re: catholicism [Re: ribbit]
    #1157602 - 12/20/02 10:27 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

when i think of catholicism, 1 thing comes to mind

1. priests molesting innocent boys whos only crime was their fucking parents forcing 'their' religion. makes me fucking sick, you here storys all the time, to where its so common it is in jokes, its written off as 'another one'

I couldn't have put it better myself.


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Re: catholicism [Re: 1stimer]
    #1157731 - 12/20/02 11:36 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

i know some cathloic people, and there not all bad, sure we have our differences, but thats teh way people are right?
even the real hardcore cathloics don't really bother me, tehy can do what they want, i try not to bother with them



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Anonymous

Re: catholicism [Re: ribbit]
    #1157827 - 12/20/02 12:24 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

When I think of Catholicism I think how everyone is basically the same and how easily the press can influence people's opinions.

Please introduce me to the group without fault. :smirk:


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