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Re: Popcorn as grain substrate? [Re: shroomerman]
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might just be a good idea to unplug the heater before sticking your hand in the water with it, just to be safe.
proly no real need for 200 watts, go with 100.


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Re: Popcorn as grain substrate? [Re: Hippie3]
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Yes, I'll be unplugging it from now on. Question: How is it normal to have water condensation in the same section that has the wires and other elecrtical components? This was supposed to be a completely sealed glass tube I thought. There were water dropplets half an inch away from the soldered ends of the cord.

I'l be spending the evening innoculating and tweaking the incubator. Thanks again everyone!!


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Re: Popcorn as grain substrate? [Re: shroomerman]
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>This was supposed to be a completely sealed glass tube I thought.

Is your heater of the "fully submersible" kind?


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Re: Popcorn as grain substrate? [Re: ShroomBoarder]
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Quote:
so you would just use plain popcorn, no verm.? 


did you read the whole thread ? or, just the recent posts . :confused:  go read it again .


i am the dean of mean . :grin: 

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Re: Popcorn as grain substrate? [Re: shroomerman]
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Yes, I'll be unplugging it from now on. Question: How is it normal to have water condensation in the same section that has the wires and other elecrtical components? This was supposed to be a completely sealed glass tube I thought. There were water dropplets half an inch away from the soldered ends of the cord.

I'l be spending the evening innoculating and tweaking the incubator. Thanks again everyone!! 


if the heater was hot when you unplugged it moisture could seep through the seals, and even through glass, when the hot air inside it contracts .
nothing to worry about, unless you have a pool of liquid in there .
in that case the heater would short out, and blow a fuse .
ps, i know just enough about electricity to scar me . :smirk: 

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Re: Popcorn as grain substrate? [Re: shroomerman]
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there really shouldn't be any moisture in there, it's defective. i'd return it for a new fully submersible one.


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Re: Popcorn as grain substrate? [Re: Hippie3]
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Yes everyone it was a fully submersible type. It was just a fucked up one I guess. I ended up getting a new 100w one. I have innoculated the batch already now. It was really easy compared to the BRF jars with the punching holes in the lids and all. I just innoculated through the polyfill filters easy as pie! I had to make my own syringes, so what I did is PC a half pint jar of water with another polyfill filter on it. Then I sucked out 2 syringes of sterile water through the filters and set them aside. Then I removed the lid enough to pour out the rest of the water. After that I slid the lid to the side and scraped in spores. I had a nice print, really dark. I closed the lid tight again and injected the sterile water back in and shook it around. Once I pulled up the sporewater the rest was easy. I injected a cc into each jar through their polyfilters. I sterilized the needle with alcohol in between each action. Before beginning I bleached down every surface in the room(bathroom), then sprayed a bunch of lysol in the air and everywhere. Then took a shower and worked nude with a bandana on my face.

I think I have a good chance of not getting any or few contams (I hope). Only time will tell, so I'll be back to let you know. :grin:

I am growing "PAN" strain, I wonder if pans dig on popcorn well? The incubator is running now, and I will have to monitor the temps every few hours till I know it's set right I suppose.

Thanks for everyone's help! Wish me good karma on my crop please !!:D

Peace!


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Re: Popcorn as grain substrate? [Re: shroomerman] * 1
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My orville was injected on the 14th, no sings of germination yet.

F.Y.I.

CG


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Re: Popcorn as grain substrate? [Re: Curious_George]
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i'm very happy.
the 4 quarts of popcorn i spoke of in my last post are now all fully colonized, the 3 rye made same day will need several more days , as will the batch of rye i did even earlier.
the popcorn colonized much much faster than the rye, inoc'd from the same syringe.
here's a comparison-


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Re: Popcorn as grain substrate? [Re: Hippie3]
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Have any of U folks experienced problem with the popcorn after shaking them? I have 6 jars incubating, and ive had some problems. After i shake the jars the myc seems to dry out.
This results in corn with lots of white on them, but no fyzzy myc at all, the white myc looks all dried out, but there is still condensation in the jars. The myc never seems to recover. Now ive lost 2 jars this way, what im I doing wrong? If anyone else has experienced this or if somone could help me solve this damm problem, please reply


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Re: Popcorn as grain substrate? [Re: Wheedhead!]
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have you broken any kernals open from the jars you lost? hippy said the myc prefers the insides of burst kernals, maybe when your shaking them your putting little fissures on the kernals, and the myc is colonizing the insides.


just a thought


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Re: Popcorn as grain substrate? [Re: ChromeCrow]
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no i have not checked the inside of the kernels, i still have one of the jars in my incubator, i will check them.

Good thought, but there is still a problem with the uncolonised kernels aprox 15%. All growth stalled. The lids on the jars are vented with polyfill.


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Re: Popcorn as grain substrate? [Re: Wheedhead!]
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sounds like either your popcorn didn't get enough water at start, or perhaps it's drying out thru the polyfil, how large a hole do you use ?
of course, most times if one sees growth then it stalls after shaking, there's a hidden contam to blame.


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Re: Popcorn as grain substrate? [Re: Hippie3]
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Ok.. got 3 jars of orville done up on the 14th.

they took 2 days to germinate, and after 4 days of growth, they are working but not any faster than my millet!!! they should be fully colonized in about 2 or 3 more days.. no big differences observed so far!!!

but i shal keep trying!!!

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Re: Popcorn as grain substrate? [Re: Curious_George]
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Update: Half of my popcorn jars have germinated, so far 0 contams. I'll post pics soon. :laugh: Palenique strain, not PAN (I read it wrong.)


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Re: Popcorn as grain substrate? [Re: shroomerman]
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my neighbors iguana knocked up 5 qt last night with malabar.  never seen a damn lizard so excited about trying something new :wink:


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Re: Popcorn as grain substrate? [Re: ChromeCrow]
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I AM an Iguana. :grin:


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Re: Popcorn as grain substrate? [Re: Hippie3]
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After 10 days of incubation, only 1 small uncolonized portion left:



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Re: Popcorn as grain substrate? [Re: Anno]
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lookin good ! i was going to ask how the grits was doing . :tongue:

is this the longest thread in shroomery history ?  :smile: 

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Re: Popcorn as grain substrate? [Re: Curious_George]
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i'm very impressed, blown way actually.
about 4-5 days ago i inoculated another 7 quarts of white popcorn.
i did 2 of the pesa strain with a syringe i got from the hawk's eye.
when i just checked both qts were nearly fully colonized in less than 5 full days.
whoa.
only shook them up once, right at inoculation.
used about 3-4 cc per qt jar.
the other 5 qts don't even show any signs of germination yet, though. they were done with different spore strains from a different source.


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