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OfflineCultyVader
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Re: Popcorn as grain substrate? [Re: fugu]
    #1480974 - 04/21/03 11:59 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

Fugu i hate to say this But maybe you should write somewhere on your avatar or right below it that you are posting through a translator. I think people would be much more understanding. Being unable to communicate properly can be very frustrating at times, and i imagine the majority of people who complain do not understand what you have to work with here. Just a thought. People think you are crazy because they dont know. And yes that is their fault, but at the same time i think it would be easier for you if people knew you were serious about what you are trying to say, i know i would be.

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Re: Popcorn as grain substrate? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #1481639 - 04/22/03 06:17 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

As has been mentioned before in this thread, different popcorn soaks up different amounts of water, that's why there is no specific ratio set.

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Re: Popcorn as grain substrate? [Re: ExtravagantDream]
    #1481709 - 04/22/03 07:11 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

whoa, this thread has really grown in my absence.
far out.
nice pix too.
i have to say that popcorn grown shrooms not being potent is nonsense.
i've tested myself and with several friends and found that my popcorn-grown SA's were every bit as potent as one could hope for, with a dry gram being sufficient to give folks the giggles for hours on end.
but i do think i over-did the time on the direct pc'ing of popcorn to hydrate it, 60 minutes made it a bit over wet so i'd just go 30-45 minutes instead, just boil/pc the popcorn directly in the pc at 15 psi for 30-45 minutes to fully hydrate before draining and loading into jars.
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Re: Popcorn as grain substrate? [Re: Hippie3]
    #1481729 - 04/22/03 07:25 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

Have you noticed any lack of potency of cased pcrn shrooms?


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Re: Popcorn as grain substrate? [Re: no-tone]
    #1481744 - 04/22/03 07:39 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

nope.
we just had a big party last weekend,
about a dozen of us over at a friend's house,
out in back grilling and chilling.
brought about a half ounce of popcorn-grown Sa's that had been sitting around a couple months at room temp and split it between everyone, so about a gram each and we all sat around grinning and laughing our asses off all night, one lady friend got to laughing so hard she felt self concious and left because she just could not stop laughing for more than a few seconds.
simple truth is that one can get a batch of low potency shrooms every now and then on ANY substrate, it's just random flux in genetics.
but i've not seen nor heard on any consistently low potency on popcorn, i think we'd have known by now alot more than one report, many folks are using and liking it.


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Re: Popcorn as grain substrate? [Re: Hippie3]
    #1481759 - 04/22/03 07:50 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks for the info  :smile:


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Re: Popcorn as grain substrate? [Re: TheWhiteRavens]
    #1482052 - 04/22/03 10:36 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

I'm editing your posts, they are nothing more than spam and flame. Not to mention, aren't you the guy posting your grows on a public IP forum that has more hits on avg daily than practically any forum on earth? you're begging for trouble.


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Re: Popcorn as grain substrate? [Re: Hippie3]
    #1482154 - 04/22/03 11:26 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

hippie,

thanks for the update on pc'ing times. i'm going to give it a whirl tonight. it's people like you that have made it possible for people like me to succeed.


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Re: Popcorn as grain substrate? [Re: fugu]
    #1482167 - 04/22/03 11:31 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

fugu,

didn't realize you were using a translator, so sorry for the shot i took at you previously.  it's just that your translating software makes your syntax sound like the nihilists from the movie "The Big Lebowski".

Oh, and whoever (no point in naming names -- we're supposed to be here to share and learn, right?) took the time to lower my mushroom rating by continuously giving me a bad rating:  that really hurts.... so much.  Yeah right. :smirk: 


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This is the CENTRAL SCRUTINIZER...
That was Joe's first confrontation with The Law.
Naturally, we were easy on him.
One of our friendly counselors gave him
A do-nut...and told him to
Stick closer to church-oriented social activities.

-Frank Zappa's "Joe's Garage"

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Re: Popcorn as grain substrate? [Re: telefunkenU47]
    #1482219 - 04/22/03 11:52 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

One person can only rate another once. That rating can, of course, be changed though.


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Re: Popcorn as grain substrate? [Re: no-tone]
    #1482455 - 04/22/03 01:12 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

thanks for the info hippie.i got problems about pop potency.i will go on this.in the next days i will try the spores with rye.


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Re: Popcorn as grain substrate? [Re: no-tone]
    #1483154 - 04/22/03 04:41 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

that's the funny thing.  i checked my ratings and it showed that no one had even been rating me, but my rating went from 3 to 1 in less than 24 hours.  not that i really care, well.... i guess that's a lie or i wouldn't be posting about it.  a 1 is fine with me.  i'm not an expert.  i know how to get decent results and i'm here to learn.  if that would make someone want to change it to a 1, then so be it.  i would, again, like to thank hippie for his posts on this subject however.  all of his suggestions seem to be working well for me. :grin: 


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Re: Popcorn as grain substrate? [Re: telefunkenU47]
    #1483290 - 04/22/03 05:21 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

When I hover my pinter over your shrooms it says you've only been rated once...


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Re: Popcorn as grain substrate? [Re: no-tone]
    #1483375 - 04/22/03 05:45 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

i can't figure this out. i've been registered here since last summer and i've been rated by a few people i've traded with. i'm pretty sure Catzeye gave me a decent rating as well as a few others. i at least know i've been rated more than once. could it be because it has been like four or five months since i last posted?

and not to let this get too far off of topic: should there be a difference in the swelling size of yellow vs. white pop corn after the simmering and pc'ing? both types are the same brands, same specs and everything (even pc'd together), but the yellow kernels always seem to be bigger. maybe it's just an optical illusion.


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This is the CENTRAL SCRUTINIZER...
That was Joe's first confrontation with The Law.
Naturally, we were easy on him.
One of our friendly counselors gave him
A do-nut...and told him to
Stick closer to church-oriented social activities.

-Frank Zappa's "Joe's Garage"

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Re: Popcorn as grain substrate? [Re: telefunkenU47]
    #1483634 - 04/22/03 06:59 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:maybe it's just an optical illusion.

Probably i just use white popcorn seems to swell up alot . during the 1hr simmering time i seem to have to fill up the water cause its soaking up soooooo much.


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Re: Popcorn as grain substrate? [Re: telefunkenU47]
    #1484030 - 04/22/03 08:17 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

Now you're back up to 3 shrooms with 1 vote. You must have convinced someone.


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Re: Popcorn as grain substrate? [Re: no-tone]
    #1484459 - 04/22/03 10:02 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

yes the ratings back up. thanks to .... you know who you are. communication is the key.


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Stick closer to church-oriented social activities.

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Re: Popcorn as grain substrate? [Re: telefunkenU47]
    #1484577 - 04/22/03 10:41 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

If you are going the pc route like hippie says, I'd say go for 30 mins. instead of 30-45. At least from what a friend told me, 45 was far too wet, especially if you then put the corn in a spawn bag where the grains should be a little drier than in smaller jars.

Oh yeah, and he showed me the shit-water that was left after straining the pc'ed corn, fucking gross! What is that shit? Looks like crisco. Talking about the excess water drained from the corn immediately after pcing. This drain "water" sat for about 6 hr's before it was dumped, by that time it had congeled to a thick goo, barely resembling liquid at all. Funky stuff, anybody else seen it? Perhaps it could be used as a ghetto substitute for agar? Anybody interested in an experiment?


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Re: Popcorn as grain substrate? [Re: mycofile]
    #1484660 - 04/22/03 11:11 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

My guess is, though I claim to be no expert that most of that shit is starch and the corn seed shell cooking off if you will.If you let your popcorn soak for a few days before pc'ng, The Hooligans have noticed that the popcorn almost 'boils'.It just sits there and all kinds of little tiny bubbles constantly float to the suface along with a bunch of other crap. Thats why The Hooligans ususally hot water rinse their popcorn a few times during their usuall 2-4 day long soaking of popcorn.Once The Hooligans tried to make a liquid mycellium culture with the left over water you reffer strained through a coffee filter 4 times and got a viable culture!It almost worked if it wasn't for those damn contams fucking things up!! :mad:


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Re: Popcorn as grain substrate? [Re: mycofile]
    #1484757 - 04/22/03 11:38 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah, that's got to be some kind of starchy goop. It would have to be nutritious.

Hey, try using whole wheat bread as an agar substitute. If you have the sterility equipment it might work.


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