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rotaryfucklove
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Cow Manure Organic Compost Mix
#11513429 - 11/23/09 06:17 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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i was at the home de pot today and while looking for vermiculite (which apparently has been taken off the market???) i saw some organic compost with cow manure in it. it was for mixing with soil but i wondered if it could be used in place of actual cow poo? also i read mushrooms react better to natural sources of water, i guess to mix in for the cakes, and it stated that perhaps water leaking from an organic compost pile would be best...does anyone agree water ran through the substance i described above would do the trick?
ive never delt with organic compost or compost at all for that matter and i want something with better results than the PF tek.
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RogerRabbit
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Vermiculite has not been taken off the market, but lumber yards/home improvement centers are not the best place to look. You'll find it at nurseries.
The organic compost/manure sounds like a good substrate. Give it a try. RR
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blood4blood
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that's a lie about verm being taken off the market. i just bought a HUGE 20$ bag the other day.
about the compost. Ive personally never liked using it but i didn't mess with it much. make sure you mix it in appropriate levels with lighter subs like verm and straw so it doesn't get all soupy on ya.
i know home depot sells black kow and there are alot of people on here that have had awesome luck with that just look it up
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rotaryfucklove
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Re: Cow Manure Organic Compost Mix [Re: blood4blood]
#11513819 - 11/23/09 07:08 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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do you think the water ran through it would be good? i use rain water but thats not always avaliable and takes a while to gather. i want only the most natural shit. my buddy told me to throw some organic garden lime into my cake mixture? sound smart?
what do you think would happen if i came up with a cake formula containing, brown rice, poo compost, straw, little rye grass, verm, peat moss...something with all the shit to make a shroom grow? im sure someone has tried something like that before, wanting the same results...a shroom stronger than mescaline...lol just a stoner thought
thanks for the input...and oh yea, when the lady told me they no longer had verm she said you can use perlite it does the same thing, i chuckled inside and said i already have that
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Shea25
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For cakes theres no reason to add straw or manure or peatmoss. The BRF is more then nutritional enough to do the job adding other things like the above would dilute the nutritan . Water from the manure I would think, wont make a difference. A awesome additive to add to cakes is gypsum, 1 table spoon per 5 jars.
Straw and manure can be used in cakes when your dealing with Cyans thoe, they need it. Cubes dont "need" it
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blood4blood
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ya your not going to make a stronger shroom by adding anything. that only aids it your yeild. unless it's an isolate or a PE.
dont ever add lime or peat moss to your subs either. they're for casings.
oh yea. perlite is not even close to the same thing are verm.
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rotaryfucklove
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Re: Cow Manure Organic Compost Mix [Re: blood4blood]
#11514020 - 11/23/09 07:36 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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thanks im glad i didnt when i made my cakes last time, thanks. all my shrooms from my last casing were fukin tiny except the first one which was huge. just dont want that to happen again.
i think we can agree that lady should be removed from the garden section...
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Shea25
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If you want bigger mushrooms do bulk and use gypsum
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blood4blood
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Re: Cow Manure Organic Compost Mix [Re: Shea25]
#11514069 - 11/23/09 07:43 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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have you found significant differences when using gypsum in your sub?
im about to do a few side by sides with an isolate i have comparing subs w/ gypsum and subs w/o.
what do you add it in comparison to your sub? (ratio)
i tried adding a qrt of gypsum to a tried and tru sub mix i have which is approx 12-13 qrts of sub and it didnt colonize for shit so im assuming i added to much gypsum.
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Shea25
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Re: Cow Manure Organic Compost Mix [Re: blood4blood]
#11514099 - 11/23/09 07:46 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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I use a 10% gypsum ratio. And yes I have found it to make quite the difference
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blood4blood
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Re: Cow Manure Organic Compost Mix [Re: Shea25]
#11514148 - 11/23/09 07:51 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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hmmm. that's about what i used. who knows. I'm gonna try with 5% and 10% and none of course and see what happens.
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rotaryfucklove
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Re: Cow Manure Organic Compost Mix [Re: Shea25]
#11514228 - 11/23/09 07:58 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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Shea25 said: If you want bigger mushrooms do bulk and use gypsum
im still very new, just ate all the dried ones last night from my first grow. im going shoppin tomorow (if i can find some blow)i just wanna buy the right shit. would gypsum be at the nursery too?
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blood4blood
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yup. just make sure your get horticultral gypsum.
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Shea25
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Yep it would be or get cheap normal dry wall and pound it up seperate the paper from it and run it through a coffee grinder
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rotaryfucklove
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Re: Cow Manure Organic Compost Mix [Re: Shea25]
#11514390 - 11/23/09 08:20 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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damn they had 2'x2' drywall sheets at home depot for like 3$!
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Epilson Lyrae
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Do any of you have experience with the pelletized gypsum? I find that it gets pasty in my pot if I'm not careful. Sorry that I
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Shea25
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Yea its a really cheap way to get gypsum. i get it for free I go to the yard of the home improvement stores and they usually have bins of free drywall strips they use to protect drywall sheets in transit for free
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Re: Cow Manure Organic Compost Mix [Re: Shea25]
#11514836 - 11/23/09 09:22 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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I used some poo water to hydrate my BRF cake mix. Results not in yet, Just started this batch couple days ago, so well see if that has any impact on the Cakes,and finally the mushrooms themselves.I have read many different post on many different Teks and methods, but i guess the only way you really learn is to succeed yourself ,or to fail yourself. But you learn something either way....
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rotaryfucklove
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gngsteroflove said: Do any of you have experience with the pelletized gypsum? I find that it gets pasty in my pot if I'm not careful. Sorry that I
dont be sorry. i led everyone to believe im a thief for makin jokes, so i understand. hope you dont get ratings saying your a thief
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ChaostoOrder
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rotaryfucklove said: i was at the home de pot today and while looking for vermiculite (which apparently has been taken off the market???) i saw some organic compost with cow manure in it. it was for mixing with soil but i wondered if it could be used in place of actual cow poo? also i read mushrooms react better to natural sources of water, i guess to mix in for the cakes, and it stated that perhaps water leaking from an organic compost pile would be best...does anyone agree water ran through the substance i described above would do the trick?
ive never delt with organic compost or compost at all for that matter and i want something with better results than the PF tek.
Go for it....I used it and had good results....even better if you case with verm, peat moss mix.....After I late cased, the stems had very healthy growth, so definately case also.....
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