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smokin427
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mdma/ecstasy - will my first time fry my brain?
#11505152 - 11/22/09 03:53 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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hey, ive got a couple questions about ecstasy. my buddy got some pure mdma and im pretty excited to try it new years eve at a concert. i dont know too much about it, other than the 3 E's and it could potentially fuck up my brain. so anyways, i was sifting through some older threads on the topic and im still undecided whether i should try it or not. most people say they feel stupid for months after taking ecstasy...is my brain going to be fried for months just because i tried ecstasy once? and is it worth trying considering the massive gray area of potential health hazards? aaannnnnnddddd, is it at all possible to have a bad roll? thanks guys..
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Re: mdma/ecstasy - will my first time fry my brain? [Re: smokin427]
#11505183 - 11/22/09 03:58 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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I take vitamin C and 5-htp. My "crash" consists of being hungry for the next hour. I haven't felt stupid or anything.
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Re: mdma/ecstasy - will my first time fry my brain? [Re: smokin427]
#11505189 - 11/22/09 03:59 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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Once probably isnt going to hurt you.
I personally didnt notice etardedness until i started using it more. And even when i do its only for a day or two after the fact.
I feel its definately worth trying, just be smart if your worried.
Take magnesium for jaw clenching/eye wiggles.
Take vitamin C and any other anti-oxidents before you roll (and while rolling if you can remember) these neutralize the free radicals that could possibly damage your neurons.
Anything done by sparce ecstacy use will most likely be repaired by the brain.
Also yes you can have a bad roll. If you take to much or the set/setting arent great it may take away from the roll to where you dont feel it, Or it may not be that great of an experiance....this normally isnt the case tho.
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smokin427
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Re: mdma/ecstasy - will my first time fry my brain? [Re: heartofalion]
#11505265 - 11/22/09 04:13 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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thanks for the feedback. where can i buy 5htp or magnesium?
im excited to try this because im pretty shy and im not pushy enough in social situations. i hope this will give me a better picture of who i am and who i can be.
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Re: mdma/ecstasy - will my first time fry my brain? [Re: smokin427]
#11505382 - 11/22/09 04:34 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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I have been rolling a lot this week fixing to pop another one...
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Re: mdma/ecstasy - will my first time fry my brain? [Re: Polk_Audio3]
#11505391 - 11/22/09 04:36 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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5htp & magnesium you can pick up at any health food store - and even walmart They're pretty cheap. Vitamins are yum.
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smokin427
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Re: mdma/ecstasy - will my first time fry my brain? [Re: GutteralRetch]
#11505457 - 11/22/09 04:47 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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if im the only one rolling, will it be weird talking and socializing with other people that are drunk and not rolling? typically, how long does a roll last? thanks, again
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Re: mdma/ecstasy - will my first time fry my brain? [Re: smokin427]
#11505624 - 11/22/09 05:11 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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smokin427 said: thanks for the feedback. where can i buy 5htp or magnesium?
im excited to try this because im pretty shy and im not pushy enough in social situations. i hope this will give me a better picture of who i am and who i can be.
Hell yea man. Im the same way. I enjoy people but i normally dont start conversations and shit, and i am not a dancer. But rolling at a rave = AWESOME. I dance my ass off and always make new friends everyone i go to. MDMA has showed me what i enjoy. I dont enjoy college parties and whatnot because i got tired of the constant pissing contestests and every guy trying to make himself look better than the other dudes. Its just not a fun enviroment to me. But raves (at least the right ones for me XP) everyone is there for the same reason. To have a good time, enjoy the music and get a little fucked up.
Also if your the only one rolling it may be a little weird because youll be feeling the conection with these people yet at the sametime youll know they arent in the same state as you.
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smokin427
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Re: mdma/ecstasy - will my first time fry my brain? [Re: heartofalion]
#11506011 - 11/22/09 06:07 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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shit thanks for the feedback. thats how i am, i dont give a shit about college parties ha. drinkin while rollings cool, right?
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Re: mdma/ecstasy - will my first time fry my brain? [Re: smokin427]
#11506208 - 11/22/09 06:37 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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aight, cool. thanks for all the help!
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Re: mdma/ecstasy - will my first time fry my brain? [Re: smokin427]
#11506274 - 11/22/09 06:47 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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personally if i could go back, i would have never started.
if I could do it all again i would have just went straight to mescaline. MDMA feels amazing but there is something "empty"about it. it feels very superficial and when it's gone i just want it to be back. after mescaline i feel satisfied for the rest of the week.
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Re: mdma/ecstasy - will my first time fry my brain? [Re: oxalic32]
#11507201 - 11/22/09 08:58 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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oxalic32 said:
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ShroomDoom said: personally if i could go back, i would have never started.
if I could do it all again i would have just went straight to mescaline. MDMA feels amazing but there is something "empty"about it. it feels very superficial and when it's gone i just want it to be back. after mescaline i feel satisfied for the rest of the week.
MDMA being empty has nothing to do with the drug but the context its being used.
Mescaline cannot do what MDMA can do. Mescaline is not superior to MDMA and MDMA is not superior to mescaline.
When the MDMA is over i just remember what will always remain. I dont cling to MDMA for the euphoria. I've used MDMA as a tool for emotional outpouring. The next day you feel amazing because you have got so much off of your mind. MDMA increases the part of your brain responsible for emotion. It decreases your fear response. Two lovers taking MDMA together confessing their deepest fears and emotions can be beautiful. All the things you thought you couldnt share finally beign shared.
If you just dump 2 tenths of molly at a rave and dance away all you want is the euphoria. Its no longer a tool but a toy.
A soldier from Iraq used MDMA to help treat his PTSS.
There is a reason some of us LOVE mdma.
dude you are never going to convince me that peyote, the holy divine medicine is not superior to mdma. it is superior to mdma in every single way.
these cacti are medicines. mescaline by itself feels way more amazing than mdma IMO. add the fact that there is no crash, AND it lasts longer, AND it has pretty visuals of colors that don't exist in this world. mdma just seems like an afterthought. a cheap attempt to imitate the phenethylamine mastery that mother nature has perfected over millions of years of biosynthesis.
i know someone who used to synth MDMA and other simple phens as a vocation. he is now a peyote roadman and an amazing visionary artist. he calls mdma poison. i wouldn't go that far but it's certainly not innoccous.
of course this is just our difference in opinions based on our experiences and i can respect that. i have seen peyote bring families together again. i have seen mdma destroy people's minds and bodies. mescaline has done way more for me in a year than mdma did in five.
i will never touch mdma again. i love it and it will have a special place in my heart. im thankful i never abused it and came out realatively unscathed from my occasional use.
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Re: mdma/ecstasy - will my first time fry my brain? [Re: oxalic32]
#11508228 - 11/22/09 11:44 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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all i'm gonna say is that i never had a panic attack until a few days after the first time i did ecstacy. it was the first drug i did that wasn't weed or lsd or mushrooms. i've never been the same since. i wish i had never done it. i've done it many more times, though, and each time i just feel more and more of my brain lost. i've had profound, transformative, healing experiences on it, but none of it sticks because i crash so hard for 4 days after. now i have panic attacks daily
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Re: mdma/ecstasy - will my first time fry my brain? [Re: december333111]
#11508292 - 11/22/09 11:57 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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hahah you guys must be baked, youre way over analyzing this issue..
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Re: mdma/ecstasy - will my first time fry my brain? [Re: december333111]
#11508293 - 11/22/09 11:57 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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ive taken ecstasy a bunch and aside from a sometimes uncomfortable comedown ive had no ill atfereffects at all. one time i took way too much and the high was really unpleasant but thats the worst thats happened to me. drink water healthy and delicious while rolling!
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Re: mdma/ecstasy - will my first time fry my brain? [Re: december333111]
#11508412 - 11/23/09 12:23 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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december333111 said: all i'm gonna say is that i never had a panic attack until a few days after the first time i did ecstacy. it was the first drug i did that wasn't weed or lsd or mushrooms. i've never been the same since. i wish i had never done it. i've done it many more times, though, and each time i just feel more and more of my brain lost. i've had profound, transformative, healing experiences on it, but none of it sticks because i crash so hard for 4 days after. now i have panic attacks daily
Thats your fault. You continued to take it even after you realized its detriment to your health.
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Re: mdma/ecstasy - will my first time fry my brain? [Re: december333111]
#11508492 - 11/23/09 12:46 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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i know, no one to blame but myself, but the first time, i didn't know
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