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OfflinejivJaN
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My tongue hurts
    #11504863 - 11/22/09 02:53 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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>>Ill have one of those angus bacon n cheese , just the sandwich.
>that'll be 4.30$

I give him 100$ bill.

He gives change back.

I count the change.

--->  115 $


I keep quiet.
Go outside.
Take a bite.
Break my tooth.

I thought the burger was a little too crunchy :lol:

i think about it..

go back in mcdonalds and i tell the guy my story.. and give him the money back.

>>That would've gotten you in trouble wouldnt it ?
> yea. Thanks a lot man i really appreciate it.


so.. yea..
now my tongue hurts.
its getting cut on the sharp edge of whats left of my tooth.


and yea.. karma.. ya know..

but i wonder.
and dont you wonder ?
wouldnt have i broke my tooth anyway ?
i mean.. maybe not right then and  there.. but sooner or later.. it would've broke .

would it be a completely different scenario where i learn something  again ?
would my tooth, to be broken, be used for a different lesson ?

i guess im just confused a lil bit..
about the whole karma thing that is..

i know .. that me keeping quiet about the money would've gotten the guy in trouble.
but at first i was so happy , thinking that im stealing from mcdonalds.
fuck mcdonalds..
as i was eating , i realized that he would have to pay out of his own pocket for it.
so i kept eating..
thinking about it..
and my tooth broke.

my first reaction was...
now hes definitely not getting the money back.
fuck karma.. god .. and all that jazz.

but then.. i gave it back.
the look on his face was just..
WTF ?
hes giving the money back ????

and i told him my story..
told him  how i knew he gave me more.
how i kept quiet..
how i thought about the whole thing.
how my tooth broke..

it makes me wonder too..
what was going on in his life before this ?
i mean.. he got a gift basically.
a mistake .. forgiven.
annulled.

was that good karma for him ?
and if so.. DID IT RELY ON ME ?

what if i had decided to  keep it ?
would he have to do something 'bad' in order to get bad karma ?

i mean.. it was in that moment that his fate depended on MY choice !



this entire event.. just raises so many questions for me....

im gonna stop now and let you nice ppl say something :tongue:

oh yea..
MY TONGUE HURTS !!! :mad2:


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They are derived from an acute mental illness , from which i am forced to lie compulsively.
I have never induced any kind of mind altering substance in my life  and i have no intentions whatsoever of doing anything illegal.
If I have ever suggested such a thing it would have most likely been , due to my personality disorder and i probably do not remember it at all..


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Re: My tongue hurts [Re: jivJaN]
    #11504998 - 11/22/09 03:23 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Nice thinking... :tongue2: ...about the tooth, a dentist perhaps?


Edited by Ahimsa (11/22/09 03:29 PM)


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Re: My tongue hurts [Re: jivJaN]
    #11505011 - 11/22/09 03:25 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

that is some fucking awesome thinking there. wish everyone was as deep as that. the world might be a better place for it. as for karma, from my experiences, karma can happen in the past as well as in the future. i don't think the law of karma follows any time/space rule. in other words, someone slaps you in the back of the head, you can beat the shit out of them without fear of bad karma because the bad karma has already been done to you. in other words, you have already been punished before you ever did anything to warrant the punishment. should you choose to turn the other cheek, though, i think the good karma just gets credited to your account. so when you think of karma, try not to think of it in such linear terms as most people do. because i feel that it is far from that.


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Re: My tongue hurts [Re: laidback4sho]
    #11505027 - 11/22/09 03:27 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

i think this is precisely why bad things happen to good people.


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Re: My tongue hurts [Re: Ahimsa]
    #11505029 - 11/22/09 03:27 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I went to the bank a couple weeks ago to cash a 400 dollar check and the dude was so confused he almost gave me 200 extra dollars. I told him he made a mistake.


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Re: My tongue hurts [Re: jivJaN]
    #11505054 - 11/22/09 03:32 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

it's a good thing you went back and told him, he could have lost his job.


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Re: My tongue hurts [Re: elementswrath]
    #11505110 - 11/22/09 03:42 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I heard the more you understand the law of karma the more instantaneous it will effect you.


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Re: My tongue hurts [Re: c0sm0nautt]
    #11505124 - 11/22/09 03:43 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

well that's only because you pay attention to it.


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Re: My tongue hurts [Re: elementswrath]
    #11505165 - 11/22/09 03:55 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

If you hurt others they're more likely to hurt you back.  If you're nice to others they're more likely to be nice back.  Doing actions that go against your conscience will probably hurt you in the form of guilt.

All of these rules have exceptions, but a general pattern does exist and this is Karma: both positivity and negativity have a tendency to spread.  Little deeds like giving back extra change might not have the power to ripple far but you never know.

Also I believe your breaking your tooth was pure coincidence.  Karma is not a mystical force in that respect.


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Re: My tongue hurts [Re: elementswrath]
    #11505272 - 11/22/09 04:15 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

it's a good thing you went back and told him, he could have lost his job.




see !

thats exactly what im talking about.

it was in my hands.

first it was in his..
he was paving his own road before he miscounted and gave me an extra 20.

but from that point forward.. it was all up to me , it seems.

and at the end.. i have a broken tooth, a lacerated tongue , and 20 bucks less in my pocket.

HE.. got out of trouble , that HE got himself into .. and it is because of ME , that he will get to keep his job.

Like i said earlier.. my tooth would've broken anyway.
And.. it seems as though his situation remains the same after i returned the money.

so.. i guess another question is
>> do we orchestrate our perceptions on , and usefulness of  this predestined life , by maneuvering our own choices and actions  in order to collectively create a lesson ?
      or
is there no destination, and all our wonderings , choices , actions simply ALL lead to a final realization that all the mystery , was simply our inability to see that nothing was really going on.
Nothing at all ! ha !
we , all together.. every atom .. EVERYTHING.. is one big consciousness .. Idling ?
  or

is it both..at the same time ?

...

being that the entire situation after my choices and actions is entirely the same as it was before ,what did i really do ?

maybe it was intended for me to be upset with the way things were..
maybe .. he would've lost his job at mcdonalds , went out to get drunk , and find the love of his life ?
marry her.. and start working for her rich ass father ?

The final and most important question  :

If i have such control , over another mans destiny... wouldn't it only be logical to assume that we ultimately ARE the same man ?
Isn't that the only way life would seem fair ?
Isn't that actually the only way existence can even begin to start making some damn sense ? :rofl:

my tongue hurts..


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All my posts in this forum are strictly fictional.
They are derived from an acute mental illness , from which i am forced to lie compulsively.
I have never induced any kind of mind altering substance in my life  and i have no intentions whatsoever of doing anything illegal.
If I have ever suggested such a thing it would have most likely been , due to my personality disorder and i probably do not remember it at all..


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Re: My tongue hurts [Re: jivJaN]
    #11505615 - 11/22/09 05:09 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Hahaha maybe this it the universe teaching you to watch your tongue. Be honest, don't speak lies! Even silence can be a lie. Yeah I've had these things happen to me a lot, but maybe it's just coincidence


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Re: My tongue hurts [Re: Diaboleros]
    #11505773 - 11/22/09 05:33 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Karma is subjective, so it could be.

bad shit happens to everyones lives, if we did a bad deed and something bad happens to us we call it Karma.

think about this way, it is inevitable to have something bad happen to us.
no matter how good we are something is bound to happen to us that is ill.

so i don't believe in Karma but i do believe in doing good for others even if we don't get a reward.

because other people doing good deeds for others is karma.
most likely the person who is inflicted by this good deed might want to do good back or to some else.


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Re: My tongue hurts [Re: elementswrath]
    #11505822 - 11/22/09 05:39 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Lol karma is a mechanism to be understood, not something to believe or not believe.


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Re: My tongue hurts [Re: Diaboleros]
    #11505876 - 11/22/09 05:46 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

anything that can't be proven is something that you believe in.


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Re: My tongue hurts [Re: elementswrath]
    #11506047 - 11/22/09 06:12 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Yes true, but what I'm trying to say here is that you could try to figure out  the mechanics by seeing it in real life experience instead of just believing. Don't you see the difference between this?


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Re: My tongue hurts [Re: Diaboleros]
    #11506130 - 11/22/09 06:26 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

yes i do.
but if you see it in real life then it wouldn't be a belief now would it?
i guess it just depends on the way you look at things.
some one else sees that it's Karma, while i see that it's just a ill fate responding from past actions(like not paying bills or something like that).


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Re: My tongue hurts [Re: elementswrath]
    #11507454 - 11/22/09 09:40 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

elementswrath said:
yes i do.
but if you see it in real life then it wouldn't be a belief now would it?
i guess it just depends on the way you look at things.
some one else sees that it's Karma, while i see that it's just a ill fate responding from past actions(like not paying bills or something like that).



to me, karma and cause and effect are the same thing.


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Re: My tongue hurts [Re: laidback4sho]
    #11507531 - 11/22/09 09:54 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

pretty much.


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Re: My tongue hurts [Re: jivJaN]
    #11508074 - 11/22/09 11:21 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

What if loosing his job would have been the best thing for him at that moment and you just ruined it? This good/bad that you're placing on the situation is purely your perspective.

Edit: Or what if he had bad karma coming to him?


Edited by fazdazzle (11/22/09 11:23 PM)


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Re: My tongue hurts [Re: laidback4sho]
    #11508163 - 11/22/09 11:32 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

laidback4sho said:
i think this is precisely why bad things happen to good people.




My personal opinion on this is, that the good person finished his past life with bad karma, and now it has come back to repay.


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