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Offlinetplague
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Straw flour/powder?
    #1150759 - 12/18/02 06:27 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Has anyone done this?

I have read about cutting straw into 3" strips but never broken down to a powder form..

Is there a negative side effect from the powder? hard to work/deal with?


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Re: Straw flour/powder? [Re: tplague]
    #1150941 - 12/18/02 07:40 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

thismay a bit OT since I don't have an answer for ya but I did cut a bale down to strips with shears one time. took forever and drove my allergies wild, gave me hives and crap too. I don't know how you plan to reduce straw to powder but I'd wear whole body protection while doing it cause that stuff just sucks to breathe or get on your skin.


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Re: Straw flour/powder? [Re: tplague]
    #1150954 - 12/18/02 07:53 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

If you cut the straw down to powder it should still have the same nutrient. However you would have to mix somthing with it to get enough air into the mix. Sounds like extra work. I have not used straw yet but plan to in the spring.

Let everyone know if you have any sucess with the powder, all the TEK's we have started with a new idea. Read as much as you can and it will increase your sucess rate and guide your logic (hehe Live long and Prosper).


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Re: Straw flour/powder? Back from the grave! [Re: debianlinux]
    #2150496 - 12/01/03 09:36 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

I am at the moment preparing to give this a try. Starw should easily be reduced to a powder using my coffee grinder. Are there any reasons that this might fail or any good arguments for trying this? Give me some feedback please.

My plan once I have made the straw flour is to mix it with some WBS flour and use that in place of BRF in the PF TEK. I'm thinking a 50/50 straw/WBS flour mix. I should be able to get this project underway this week if nothing terribly pressing comes up.

I also want to use it in a pan cyan substrate (but that will be later on) mixed with cow poo.


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Re: Straw flour/powder? Back from the grave! [Re: Ekstaza]
    #2150541 - 12/01/03 09:51 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

I think it would have a negative affect, the straw is more loose allowing air flow and CO2 exchange better and more open spaces for growth, on the other hand I think it would work if mixed with verm to allow good air flow.


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Re: Straw flour/powder? Back from the grave! [Re: Cloud9]
    #2150561 - 12/01/03 10:00 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

It will be mixed with verm. It will be the PF TEK with straw/WBS flour instead of BRF. Does anyone think that I should just cut it into 1/4" pieces (much harder) to help it keep it fluffy appeal? I can do this but it will be a pain in the arse.


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Re: Straw flour/powder? Back from the grave! [Re: Ekstaza]
    #2150564 - 12/01/03 10:01 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

If your mixing with verm you might as well try grinding it into a flour and see how it works.


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Re: Straw flour/powder? Back from the grave! [Re: Cloud9]
    #2150603 - 12/01/03 10:21 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

I highly doubt if straw will grind well in a coffeee grinder- straw is stringy and fiborous... coffee and all the other things that do well in a coffee grinder are hard and fragment upon impact. I tried to cut some straw in my blender once, and all I managed to do was wrap the straw around the blade axle. damn did it suck getting THAT off. anyway, thats just fair warning. think about it first. =)


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Re: Straw flour/powder? Back from the grave! [Re: schorts]
    #2150692 - 12/01/03 11:03 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Too late, I already succeded in making the straw flour. I just had to cut it up a little first. No problem. The straw I am using is really dry and it crumbles right in your hand. My coffee grinder made short work of it.


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Re: Straw flour/powder? Back from the grave! [Re: Ekstaza]
    #2150715 - 12/01/03 11:16 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

I'm fairly interested to see how it turns out, if it works my friend might just try using ground up stray as a replacement for BRF. Or at least use it as an additive.


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Re: Straw flour/powder? Back from the grave! [Re: Cloud9]
    #2150989 - 12/02/03 12:49 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Give that shit a try. I'm very curious. Great innovation. I think it would work great. I'm just curious to see if the growth is better, and worthy of finding straw and grinding it up to use. Seems like it might be a pain in the buttocks if it doesn't provide a serious difference in growth size/rate etc. Let us know.


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Re: Straw flour/powder? [Re: tplague]
    #2151142 - 12/02/03 08:11 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

straw powder  :lol:

full marks for invention. less than full marks for practicality or necessity. It'll certainly be fun to try, but you're redesigning the wheel: if it ain't broke, don't fix it - you could get the same effects by making a pf cake and spawning that to straw. 


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Re: Straw flour/powder? [Re: tplague]
    #2151154 - 12/02/03 08:24 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

I tried it.
It colonizes around 3 times slower than BRF.


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Re: Straw flour/powder? [Re: Anno]
    #2151236 - 12/02/03 10:16 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Hey Anno, thanks for the heads up. After cutting up all that straw I don't think that I'll try it again, but I'm still going to go ahead with it. How well did it fruit?


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Re: Straw flour/powder? [Re: Ekstaza]
    #2151359 - 12/02/03 11:01 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Not good in comparison with the standard cakes.
Straw is good when it?s bulk.


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Re: Straw flour/powder? [Re: Anno]
    #2151369 - 12/02/03 11:04 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

I guess I could just use it to add to some cow manure compost.

How well do you think the Pan. Cyans would like it?


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Re: Straw flour/powder? [Re: Ekstaza]
    #2151537 - 12/02/03 12:19 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

i cut my straw down to 1 inch stips and i used to get blisters from the sissiors so i went to a type writer store and bought one of those papper cutters the ones that got a big blade on it and its attached to like a block of wood. u know the ones that u used to see in grammer skewl in the 80's they work great best 25 buxs i ever spent


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Re: Straw flour/powder? [Re: white_rabbit]
    #2152430 - 12/02/03 06:34 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

I went ahead and used it in some cakes I made up today.

3/4 cup of straw flour
1-1/4 cups of millet flour
4 cups verm
2 cups water


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