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these arn't all chantrelles are they?
    #11492894 - 11/20/09 03:40 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

i know the 2 orange ones with the open caps are,but what about the other 2 orange ones,just very young?
and this purple one is all soaked and beat but is it one too?

these white and brown ones are in the same habitat.they look pretty similiar but i dont know. are they clitocybes?


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Re: these arn't all chantrelles are they? [Re: psylosymonreturns]
    #11493038 - 11/20/09 03:59 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

That old slimy thing is really gross.  I can't believe you took that with you, ahaha.  Ew.

The last two look like a Clitocybe or  Pseudoclitocybe cyathiformis...  Were they both growing in the same place, or in different locations?


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Re: these arn't all chantrelles are they? [Re: CureCat]
    #11493125 - 11/20/09 04:10 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

same locale basicly.hemlock and fir forest with thick moss covering the ground.
haha ya the slimy thing wasnt as slimy at first.

so are those other orange ones just channie pins? i know i probably should have left them but for id purposes i did pick them.

i have much experience with psilocybes but when it comes to edibles i am pretty green.but i am enjoying this kind of hunt quite a bit.

and thanks cure cat,hope ya had a good b day.


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Re: these arn't all chantrelles are they? [Re: psylosymonreturns]
    #11496569 - 11/21/09 02:38 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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so are those other orange ones just channie pins? i know i probably should have left them but for id purposes i did pick them.



For ID purposes you should have left them.  In a few days it would have been obvious that they are Cantharellus.

I think they are, I really can't think of anything else they could be.  However I rarely see Cantharellus at this stage of maturity because most people (myself included) usually leave them to mature.  They are usually so buried  and low to the ground that you can not easily see the enclosed caps.


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Re: these arn't all chantrelles are they? [Re: CureCat]
    #11497597 - 11/21/09 10:42 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

ya but i am a lib hunter,i spot everything!!haha
yes i feel dumb for picking them. i do know better but hell i am not perfect.
so they are probably just young channnies then?
i got worrried because i cut up the smaller ones and put them in a frying pan and when i flipped a peice the flesh was going purple.and i didnt recall this when frying mature ones. and i couldnt find any info that said that the flesh goes purple when frying them,so i didnt eat them.

cure cat i appreciate the help by the way.:smile:


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Re: these arn't all chantrelles are they? [Re: psylosymonreturns]
    #11501775 - 11/22/09 12:31 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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when frying mature ones. and i couldnt find any info that said that the flesh goes purple when frying them,so i didnt eat them.





Yeah, good that you didn't eat them, the flesh going purple doesn't sound right, don't think they are chanterelles, given that. The young chants I find don't look like that, the caps curl is never that tight to the stem or as thinned out on the edges, also the stems look fibrous, something that I don't see on chants. Even if they they are chants, better safe than sorry. Eating obvious anomalies is risky.


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Re: these arn't all chantrelles are they? [Re: falcon]
    #11501991 - 11/22/09 01:22 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)



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Re: these arn't all chantrelles are they? [Re: CureCat]
    #11502088 - 11/22/09 01:48 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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For ID purposes you should have left them.  In a few days it would have been obvious that they are Cantharellus.



+1

At that stage they could be young Cortinarius, Gymnopilus.. hard to tell from the pic. Were all the orange ones from the same cluster?

Note: next time plz throw a lighter or something in the pic for size ref.

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psylosymonreturns said:
i got worrried because i cut up the smaller ones and put them in a frying pan and when i flipped a peice the flesh was going purple.and i didnt recall this when frying mature ones. and i couldnt find any info that said that the flesh goes purple when frying them,so i didnt eat them.



Good thinking. "When in doubt..throw it out."


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The Audubon Society Field Guide to North American Mushrooms said, "...the rule of thumb is to avoid any bolete with orange to red pores, especially any that bruises blue."
Lincoff, (1989). The Audubon Society Field Guide to North American Mushrooms (pp. 562). New York: Knopf.


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Re: these arn't all chantrelles are they? [Re: masspan]
    #11502856 - 11/22/09 09:09 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

oops, I meant, I haven't seen the cap edge that thin at the edges when it is hugging the stem.


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Re: these arn't all chantrelles are they? [Re: falcon]
    #11503264 - 11/22/09 12:01 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

ya falcon when i saw purple i got pretty scarred. and i the cap edge did seem a little to perfect. i am really glad i threw em out.

tango king,all of them were growing by themselves ,even the smaller ones were not clustered at all. i have never seen a galerina that looks like this but a gymnopolis i have never seen with my own eyes.i was thinking possibly a jack o lantern but they didnt glow in the dark and i am not sure if they grow in BC.

thank you for your responses.:smile: this was an eye opener because i didnt expect to find something so close to a chantrelle that isnt actually one. i have friends that are pretty inexperienced mushroom hunters that pick chantrelles. so i can give them a warning and show them the pictures.


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Re: these arn't all chantrelles are they? [Re: psylosymonreturns]
    #11503452 - 11/22/09 12:45 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

The round ones look like Chroogomphus helveticus, but the others look like they could be Chanterelles.


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Re: these arn't all chantrelles are they? [Re: psylosymonreturns]
    #11503459 - 11/22/09 12:45 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Look at this thread. Those Corts look a bit like yours:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11415580#11415580

And the bottom pic of gyms here:
http://www.mushroomexpert.com/gymnopilus_junonius.html


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The Audubon Society Field Guide to North American Mushrooms said, "...the rule of thumb is to avoid any bolete with orange to red pores, especially any that bruises blue."
Lincoff, (1989). The Audubon Society Field Guide to North American Mushrooms (pp. 562). New York: Knopf.


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Re: these arn't all chantrelles are they? [Re: tangoking]
    #11503594 - 11/22/09 01:13 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

oh geez they do look like those corts,and they do resemble the last pic of gyms except the way they were growing were not gregarious.
if they were those corts i am a lucky bastard . i just had a feeling in my gut to not eat these. man that is scary .


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Re: these arn't all chantrelles are they? [Re: psylosymonreturns]
    #11503757 - 11/22/09 01:53 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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oh geez they do look like those corts,and they do resemble the last pic of gyms except the way they were growing were not gregarious.
if they were those corts i am a lucky bastard . i just had a feeling in my gut to not eat these. man that is scary .



Well my first thought is that you stumbled across a couple of gyms, especially when you said that they "turned purple" in the pan. They were essentially bruising blue in the pan.

But I could be dead wrong; they do sorta look like chants, and you didn't fill out an ID request, so all we have are a couple of snapshots. We don't know, the habitat, your location in the world, spore print color, etc.

Curecat's advice was best--next time give them a day to bloom.


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The Audubon Society Field Guide to North American Mushrooms said, "...the rule of thumb is to avoid any bolete with orange to red pores, especially any that bruises blue."
Lincoff, (1989). The Audubon Society Field Guide to North American Mushrooms (pp. 562). New York: Knopf.


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Re: these arn't all chantrelles are they? [Re: tangoking]
    #11504384 - 11/22/09 03:30 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

That one "most mature" mushroom in the first two photos looks like a for-sure chanterelle to me. The others are more ambiguous.

Of course, my word should not be taken as meaningful, because this is my first season of hunting. I did find several pounds of chanterelles in the September and October, though :laugh: My parents have a great patch in the woods behind their house.


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Re: these arn't all chantrelles are they? [Re: freespeech]
    #11505231 - 11/22/09 06:06 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

fortytwo you may be on to something!Chroogomphus rutilus turns violet when chewed! this is according to wiki.but this species is from europe.
i am going to look into this a bit more.
tango your right,if i would have left them i would have known for sure on a later date and not have had to worry.

thanks again everyone.


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Re: these arn't all chantrelles are they? [Re: psylosymonreturns]
    #11506111 - 11/22/09 08:23 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah I have never seen the gills enclosed like that...  I was just going to suggest Chroogomphus, based on the stature and colour change when exposed to heat, though the colour is way off.....  Well actually, I guess I have seen some really young, orange coloured Chroogomphus pins..  Maybe I can find a picture that matches.

Good call not eating them!


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Re: these arn't all chantrelles are they? [Re: CureCat]
    #11506163 - 11/22/09 08:30 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Yeeeahh, I think Chroogomphus tomentosus is very likely.


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Re: these arn't all chantrelles are they? [Re: CureCat]
    #11507008 - 11/22/09 10:25 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

i think that is a good match. those are from PNW if i remember correctly. i saw another pic online of those but they looked more red. these in your picture are more carrot orange like the ones i found.


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Re: these arn't all chantrelles are they? [Re: psylosymonreturns]
    #11507722 - 11/23/09 12:23 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

I found a bunch that looked like that at fort Stevens. The Ranger said that they were false chantrelles and to not eat them.


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