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DXM - Questions
    #11476140 - 11/17/09 07:14 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

I've posted this in a thread in The Psychadelic Experience forum, but got very little response. Maybe you guys could help out?

I have obtained a bottle of Delsym Orange Flavored Liquid Cough Suppressant.
It says extended-release suspension, 12 Hour Cough Relief. It's also alcohol-free, the only ingredient is DXM polistirex equivalent to DXM HBr. In every 5mL teaspoon, there's 30 mg of the DXM polistirex.

There are no other active ingredients.
The bottle is 89 mL.

I have many questions that I would like to confirm the answers to:
1. Is DXM polistirex okay as a substitute for DXM HBr?
I've read that it takes longer to hit and doesn't hit as hard.
And Erowid says that polistrirex is like an edible plastic, which is responsible for the time release aspect. Confirmation?

2. A good dose to get to high second plateau would be anywhere between...?
I've read from 300mg to 600mg. I weigh 150 pounds, and have no tolerance to it. Help?

3. Empty stomach or full stomach?
I've read pros and cons of both. Your thoughts?

4. If Delsym is not recommended, should I get another brand? Should i get cough gels?
I've read that most store brands are good, as well as just regular robitussin. And that cough gels are just less gross. Recommendations? Btw I would have no problem swallowing a large amount of cough gels.

5. How long does a DXM trip last?
Most of the trip reports I found were like "Crazy trip to the hospital" or "DXM overdose". So I don't really know. And then I get the 12 Hr Extended Release shit and I am confused even further. Help?

6. And how long does it take to hit?
I've heard two hours. True or false?

Pretty sure I didn't forget anything, but I might've. Responses would be GREATLY appreciated.


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Re: DXM - Questions [Re: dehoefasho]
    #11476173 - 11/17/09 07:19 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

- Empty stomach(no food for 2+ hours). No dairy, no alcohol.

- Get this (or other store brand gels that contain ONLY DXM, 15mg each):


- Eat them all (300mg)

- Take one gel at a time. Use Orange Juice (not soda or water or hot chocolate or some shit)

- Give it up to 2 hours to kick in.

- Smoke a bowl of some fine greens (important). :stoned:


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Re: DXM - Questions [Re: The_Ghost]
    #11476387 - 11/17/09 09:49 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

1. NO (this made me feel sick for hours and nothing else. terrible terrible. terrible.)
2. second plateau is the WORST of the plateaus and the reason DXM is so looked down upon
for recreational use, take no more than 200mg (1st plateau) or no less than 600mg (3-4 plateau)
3. empty stomach. eat a few crackers or something if you have a weak stomach
4. generic wallgreens DXM cough gels are fine and half the price of the robitussin ones. also, zicam is good and a lot cleaner because the dxm is concentrated, making for less consuming matter
5. ~peak lasts 2-4 hours, lingering effects last up to 6 hours or so.
6. ~begins in 40 minutes with zicam spray, 1 hour 40 minutes with gels.

1st plateau trip has euphoria, music euphoria, etc. basically a body-focused high. very little negative side effects, but is very hard to hit because most people  overshoot it and take too much. 200mg is enough for me for a 1st plateau trip.

3rd-4th plateau trip is dissociative, you mind seperates from your body. these trips are best taken in complete darkness as any other setting will be annoying/disruptive and, in my opinion, completely worthless. the hallucinations on high plateaus of dxm differ from other psychedelics because you have control over them. you hallucinate what you think, in lieu of random hallucinations. (I was able to recreate another room around me exactly and interact with it all while lying on a couch with my eyes closed.)

2nd plateau is what most people take, thus earning the drugs bad reputation.
this trip has the minor body effects of the 1st plateau, but includes all the negative effects (itching, nausea, flanging/blurry vision, sick feeling/dirty feeling) accompanied with higher plateau trips, but to a heightened degree because there are no mental effects to distract you, and also the negative effects are just way more apparent on 2nd plateau.

this is just from my experience, though. have fun, happy tripping. don't be a moron.


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Re: DXM - Questions [Re: Envix]
    #11476392 - 11/17/09 09:52 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

heres some advice - DONT DO DXM

that is all



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Re: DXM - Questions [Re: Doctor_Dick]
    #11479685 - 11/18/09 04:15 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

The_Ghost and Envix,

Thank you both very very much for your responses.

I'm excited to experience it. :omgawesome:

And Doctor_Dick, that was depressing.


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Re: DXM - Questions [Re: dehoefasho]
    #11479933 - 11/18/09 04:51 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

I love it, alot of ppl dont. Take empty stomache, zicam if you dont mind paying more is the DEFF way to go. Its half a shot and 410mg, and on an empty stomache came on around 20 mins. So it deff hits faster if u do empty stomache, and u can get over the nausea faster in my experience, but the trip is shorter also (ime) 4-5 hours ish, if u upped the dose it would obv be longer. Also.... some herb goes good with dxm. Your gonna love the robo walk, i know i do


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Re: DXM - Questions [Re: Doctor_Dick]
    #11479946 - 11/18/09 04:52 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Doctor_Dick said:
heres some advice - DONT DO DXM




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Best advice.


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Re: DXM - Questions [Re: Vibes]
    #11480034 - 11/18/09 05:02 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Vibes said:
Quote:

Doctor_Dick said:
heres some advice - DONT DO DXM




QFT

Best advice.



He might like it, he might not. If we does want to try it he should go into it with an open mind. DXM has provided me with some very interesting and enjjoyable expeirences


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Re: DXM - Questions [Re: weshroom]
    #11480179 - 11/18/09 05:21 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

drink the whole bottle and enjoy... it isnt as strong as dxm hbr but lasts longer...


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Re: DXM - Questions [Re: weshroom]
    #11482017 - 11/18/09 09:21 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

if dxm was such a great drug, it would be illegal already. obviously the government doesnt think dxm is gonna start the next sexual revolution like LSD or something. pounding cough syrup bottles and popping a ton of antihistamine tabs to get high is just negligence against yourself.


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Re: DXM - Questions [Re: Doctor_Dick]
    #11482066 - 11/18/09 09:26 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

For the people who are so against dxm.. have you even used it? I still did it every now and then (and really enjoyed it) back when I had access to any psychedelic I wanted. Don't knock something just because it's OTC.

If LSD was in a OTC syrup would you all of a sudden bash it because you're "abusing cough medicine"?


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Re: DXM - Questions [Re: Doctor_Dick]
    #11482185 - 11/18/09 09:41 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

dxm is such a great drug...and you cant say otherwise if you have tried pure powder


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Re: DXM - Questions [Re: dwtk]
    #11482220 - 11/18/09 09:47 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

dwtk said:
For the people who are so against dxm.. have you even used it? I still did it every now and then (and really enjoyed it) back when I had access to any psychedelic I wanted. Don't knock something just because it's OTC.

If LSD was in a OTC syrup would you all of a sudden bash it because you're "abusing cough medicine"?



yes i used to do dxm ALOT

and yes i am nocking it because it is OTC. obviously the government doesnt care too much if kids abuse it otherwise it would be schedueld just like LSD. i would never bash lsd if it were and OTC syrup because it will NEVER be a otc drug. the government took it away from us for a reason, cus they fear it is gonna make people rebel and show people truths they don't want us to see. if dxm did this it would be illegal too.


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Re: DXM - Questions [Re: Doctor_Dick]
    #11482258 - 11/18/09 09:53 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

dxm isn't that kind of drug. it doesn't make you "aware" or "see the truth", therefore it won't make you want to rebel. a drug doesn't need to do that in order to be good.
dissociative are a completely different experience than psychedelics. some dig it, some don't. just because you don't doesn't make it a shit drug. it just means you don't dig it. get it?


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Re: DXM - Questions [Re: Doctor_Dick]
    #11482274 - 11/18/09 09:54 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Most of your questions are addressed in this article, "FACILITATING TRANSPERSONAL EXPERIENCES WITH DEXTROMETHORPHAN: POTENTIAL, CAUTIONS, AND CAVEATS". It reads well and covers a lot. I just got through writing a synopsis for it.


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Re: DXM - Questions [Re: Envix]
    #11482320 - 11/18/09 09:59 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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Envix said:
dxm isn't that kind of drug. it doesn't make you "aware" or "see the truth", therefore it won't make you want to rebel. a drug doesn't need to do that in order to be good.
dissociative are a completely different experience than psychedelics. some dig it, some don't. just because you don't doesn't make it a shit drug. it just means you don't dig it. get it?



yea i definately dont dig dxm but if yall do thats cool

and im not a dissociative hater, ketamine was one of the most fun drugs i have ever done, still is one of my favorite recreational drugs. i just hate dxm thats all


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Re: DXM - Questions [Re: Doctor_Dick]
    #11482370 - 11/18/09 10:06 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

I'm just saying, if you had DXM in powder form and it was illegal then you'd probably like it seeing how you really enjoy ketamine :shrug:

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Re: DXM - Questions [Re: dehoefasho]
    #11482672 - 11/18/09 10:41 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

I don't like DXM and wouldn't recommend it, but whatevs. It definitely takes a while to set in. I tried it one time a while ago and thought it was having no effect on me and went to bed. Woke up later flying across my bedroom with giant pupils.


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Re: DXM - Questions [Re: claraclairvoyant]
    #11484244 - 11/19/09 09:14 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

giant pupils? damn dxm and K have always made my eyes pinholes


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