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 crvskate
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 Amanita muscaria Question 
#11479116 - 11/18/09 02:59 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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So i found some A. muscaria by my house.
I was wondering how much i take and how to take it to have a nice trip.
I read that in old days people use to eat these to see the gods. 
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pernifiltrator
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 Re: Amanita muscaria Question [Re: crvskate]
#11479189 - 11/18/09 03:11 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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air dry them outside someplace first. Just use the caps. Then put them in the oven and bake them at 170 degrees for about an hour. This converts ibotenic acid into muscimol. Muscimol is what you trip on. The other just makes you sick. Or you could be crazy and just eat them as is, but i would recommend drying then baking. Erowid.org has alot of amazing information on that mushroom as well as many other substances. You should always research as much as you can so you know what you're dealing with. And for dose, i wouldn't go over 15 grams you're first time, unless you're absolutely sure, and can handle lol. I'm planning to go 7-10grams once i get a hold of some.
Edited by pernifiltrator (11/18/09 03:14 PM)
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crvskate
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Yea but how much is 7-8 grams?
Like 1 large cap?
there so easy to find by my place.
i live in oregon, so there everywhere.
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Re: Amanita muscaria Question [Re: crvskate]
#11479291 - 11/18/09 03:27 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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well, i would get a scale. When they dry out they weigh like 90% less. So 10 grams would become 1 gram. So you need about 70-100 grams fresh. Lol go into a grocery store and stick em on the scale in the vegi section. Or find someone with one or buy one. Sounds crazy finding those. They dont grow where i live, so i'm probably gunna just buy some.
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 BiG_StroOnZ
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Re: Amanita muscaria Question [Re: crvskate]
#11479306 - 11/18/09 03:29 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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It really has nothing to do with the amount you take (sort of), the problem with the Amanita Muscaria is it's a mushroom that chooses what journey it wants to take you on or if it doesn't want to give you any journey at all (The potency also varies GREATLY between different A. Muscaria mushrooms, sometimes one could provide you with one effect and another could provide you with a completely different effect. Seasons also effect this variance).
Which is why you hear stories of people taking massive amounts of them (in the ounce range) and not feeling anything (but slight inebriation similar to being drunk), to people having only a few grams and having an extremely profound life-changing experience.
Sometimes it takes a couple of times before people have any experiences with them. It's the type of entheogen that takes the saying "YMMV" (Your Mileage May Vary) to a whole new level. You will want to experiment with them, especially if you easily have access to them in the wild (the best specimens as opposed to buying from an online vendor).
Try all the different methods, if you do a quick search on this forum there are many. From eating them fresh, to eating them dry, to making them into a brew or tea, to cooking with them on a daily basis, dropping them in wine or even dropping them in orange juice, even smoking them.
It took me many tries, in many different methods of administration, and amounts to finally have a ++++ on them.
With that said, you must find out yourself how the mushroom reacts with your body.
Hope you find what you're looking for.
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thedudenj
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Re: Amanita muscaria Question [Re: BiG_StroOnZ]
#11482835 - 11/18/09 11:03 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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BiG_StroOnZ said:
It really has nothing to do with the amount you take (sort of), the problem with the Amanita Muscaria is it's a mushroom that chooses what journey it wants to take you on or if it doesn't want to give you any journey at all (The potency also varies GREATLY between different A. Muscaria mushrooms, sometimes one could provide you with one effect and another could provide you with a completely different effect. Seasons also effect this variance).
Which is why you hear stories of people taking massive amounts of them (in the ounce range) and not feeling anything (but slight inebriation similar to being drunk), to people having only a few grams and having an extremely profound life-changing experience.
Sometimes it takes a couple of times before people have any experiences with them. It's the type of entheogen that takes the saying "YMMV" (Your Mileage May Vary) to a whole new level. You will want to experiment with them, especially if you easily have access to them in the wild (the best specimens as opposed to buying from an online vendor).
Try all the different methods, if you do a quick search on this forum there are many. From eating them fresh, to eating them dry, to making them into a brew or tea, to cooking with them on a daily basis, dropping them in wine or even dropping them in orange juice, even smoking them.
It took me many tries, in many different methods of administration, and amounts to finally have a ++++ on them.
With that said, you must find out yourself how the mushroom reacts with your body.
Hope you find what you're looking for.
lol good advice for him
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Re: Amanita muscaria Question [Re: thedudenj]
#11499836 - 11/21/09 04:32 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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i took one big cap, 8g dried, and cooked it in soup. strange effects. the only way i can describe the feeling is that it felt like i was bouncing around. then i would fall asleep, then wake up and feel completely sober, until i started moving, then i would be bouncing around again. i was pretty indifferent to it, it wasn't euphoric, it wasn't scary. i can't say i liked or didn't like it
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Re: Amanita muscaria Question [Re: oxalic32]
#11499907 - 11/21/09 04:47 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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You do not need to heat the mushroom to a certain temp to convert the actives nor does it become more potent by drinking your piss.
Ibotenic acid is converted to muscimol naturally during the drying process.
Ibotenic acid is not converted in the body into muscimol.
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Edited by oxalic32 (12/19/10 10:00 PM)
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Re: Amanita muscaria Question [Re: oxalic32]
#11500111 - 11/21/09 05:21 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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I didnt say your urine isnt active.
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Edited by oxalic32 (12/19/10 10:00 PM)
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Re: Amanita muscaria Question [Re: oxalic32]
#11500177 - 11/21/09 05:29 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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You sir, are correct.
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BiG_StroOnZ
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Re: Amanita muscaria Question [Re: HerbBaker]
#11502189 - 11/22/09 12:15 AM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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You don't need to drink urine when you can use alternatives with similar acidity levels, like mixing both Lemon and Lime juice together. Squeeze a full Lemon and full Lime into a shot glass, then add finely ground A. muscaria bits (almost like a powder)- let it sit there and soak for at least 15 mins. This method practically mimics the effects of urine - anyone who has used the traditional Lemon Tek method will concur.
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thedudenj
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Re: Amanita muscaria Question [Re: BiG_StroOnZ]
#11502520 - 11/22/09 01:53 AM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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personally i prefer them 2 parts amanita 1 part cream that has a crazy reaction and effect.
aside from that if you know how to hold your fluids and have a good diet you should get the full effect from eating them
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Re: Amanita muscaria Question [Re: BiG_StroOnZ]
#11502738 - 11/22/09 04:13 AM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
BiG_StroOnZ said:
You don't need to drink urine when you can use alternatives with similar acidity levels, like mixing both Lemon and Lime juice together. Squeeze a full Lemon and full Lime into a shot glass, then add finely ground A. muscaria bits (almost like a powder)- let it sit there and soak for at least 15 mins. This method practically mimics the effects of urine - anyone who has used the traditional Lemon Tek method will concur.
Mimics urine? this make no sense.
What is it you think the urine does?
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thedudenj
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Re: Amanita muscaria Question [Re: HerbBaker]
#11503430 - 11/22/09 10:41 AM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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yeah i have to agree i dont think lemon juice is gona do the same thing as your liver and metabolize drugs at all
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BiG_StroOnZ
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Re: Amanita muscaria Question [Re: HerbBaker]
#11504062 - 11/22/09 12:43 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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HerbBaker said:
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BiG_StroOnZ said:
You don't need to drink urine when you can use alternatives with similar acidity levels, like mixing both Lemon and Lime juice together. Squeeze a full Lemon and full Lime into a shot glass, then add finely ground A. muscaria bits (almost like a powder)- let it sit there and soak for at least 15 mins. This method practically mimics the effects of urine - anyone who has used the traditional Lemon Tek method will concur.
Mimics urine? this make no sense.
What is it you think the urine does?
Compare the pH levels of urine and of a lemon or lime, it makes perfect sense. I'm not sure what exactly is in urine or what is in Lemon or Lime juice that increases the potency of both Psilocybes and A. Muscaria, I just know it does.
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yeah i have to agree i dont think lemon juice is gona do the same thing as your liver and metabolize drugs at all
never said it has the same effect as passing through your liver
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Re: Amanita muscaria Question [Re: BiG_StroOnZ]
#11504098 - 11/22/09 12:49 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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The shamans didn't drink the urine because of the pH... They drank the urine because it had muscimol in it...
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BiG_StroOnZ
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Re: Amanita muscaria Question [Re: BothHands]
#11504192 - 11/22/09 01:02 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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The shamans didn't drink the urine because of the pH... They drank the urine because it had muscimol in it...
They would drink their Urine immediately after they consumed the Mushroom also, this has nothing to do with passing the urine to another to give them the effects of the A. muscaria. Obviously, the Mushroom hasn't passed through the body yet, if you eat it and then consume your urine immediately after.
I guess you never heard of Urine Therapy?
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